Post-Game Talk: Free Falling Jets lose 2-1

[surixon]

What? No he hasn't.

I don't understand why people are under the impression that Maurice would choose to play Heinola if he could. Maurice doesn't play Heinola because inserting Heinola in the team results in only 3 players who fit Maurice's outdated idea of an effective NHL D-man who breaks up plays and clears in front of the net. Maurice makes the team worse because he thinks it improves the team to have big physical D-men play over Heinola.

Also he needs his PK dmen so can't insert him for Poolman or Forbert.

 

[DRW204]

ITT I've learned we should be content that heinola gets his NHL salary sitting on his ass rather than contributing positively to our on-ice play. Holy f***

 

[GumbyCan2]

For all we know Heinola wanted to go back home because of Covid and the uncertainty of what the AHL season would look like and Chevy promised to keep him on the taxi squad for the most part even if he wouldn't get in many games so he could at least draw an NHL salary as his motivation to stick around? No clue if that is true or not but wouldn't be out of the realm of possibilities. Point is it could be a lot of things. Some of Chevys doing maybe or could be all Mo. we don't know and we are all only speculating so can be no right or wrong answers here

Just have to accept that, he wasn't (again, or yet) for NHL full duty, so not allowed to play more than one game early and late season. ( according to -the former- Coach Mo')
Wait until next season, under a new coach I am sure Chevy will push for this.

 

[Romang67]

Also he needs his PK dmen so can't insert him for Poolman or Forbert.

Well, the PK is Maurice's go-to lie/excuse about why he's inserting certain players or taking certain players out. I prefer not to think about that.

 

[surixon]

ITT I've learned we should be content that heinola gets his NHL salary sitting on his ass rather than contributing positively to our on-ice play. Holy f***

He doesn't even get his NHL salary, he gets his AHL salary to be on the taxi squad.

 

[None]

He made a mistake - if that's all it takes, the Moose will be playing the next game.

He ticks all of the short leash boxes for Maurice
- Under 25
- Homegrown
- Rookie

Edit:
Forgot a condition he doesn't meet
- Named Nikolaj

 

[jungles]

Only the best breed of defenceman is capable of standing in a rigid box waiting for the puck to hit them.

 

[rkp]

u know what ...its the same old same old....again!!!

 

[DRW204]

He doesn't even get his NHL salary, he gets his AHL salary to be on the taxi squad.

Lmao so literally he has no benefit. In fact, likely the opposite. No financial benefit, worse ahl and nhl teams without him. Jfc

 

[tbcwpg]

He made a mistake - if that's all it takes, the Moose will be playing the next game.

If you're under the age of 24 that's all it takes

 

[blues10]

Well, the PK is Maurice's go-to lie/excuse about why he's inserting certain players or taking certain players out. I prefer not to think about that.

He has been using that since his arrival. Even guys that did PK work in the AHL haven’t been given NHL PK work at times. Maurice doesn’t have those guys on his preferred PKer list.

 

[DudeWhereIsMakar]

This is frustrating...

Before you know it next season we have a firesale and Connor Bedard is a Winnipeg Jet.

 

[Teemusalami204]

Out high Sanger chances and corsi and every stat has always been shit all year.

This is the real Jets. It breaks my heart to say it but I feel it’s true.

we have came back down to earth, we have been lucky up until now

 

[Gabe Kupari]

He made a mistake - if that's all it takes, the Moose will be playing the next game.

Maurices history with the developing talent is 1 mistake and you sit unless you are boys with Scheif and Wheeler.

 

[LowLefty]

He ticks all of the short leash boxes for Maurice
- Under 25
- Homegrown
- Rookie

True - and sad.
But outside of Moe-ville, that one mistake wouldn't get you pulled

 

[Do or Die]

The more I think of it, actually takes a certain amount of creativity to find all these different ways to lose...

 

[LowLefty]

If you're under the age of 24 that's all it takes

Some one beat you to it - but yes, good point

 

[GumbyCan2]

You are incorrect on this, that only applies to one way contracts:

"If a player is on a two-way NHL contract, he is paid his minor league salary, without any proration."

NHL to Taxi Squad to AHL Salary Structure.

So there is no salary benefit for him on the taxi squad over playing in the AHL.

Wasted year of actual playing is what this approach has turned out to be. Is not having a prospect playing valuable minutes regularly worse for his growth and improvement and development , than saving a year ELC? Lost decision in my mind. Lost Jets organization lately!

 

[surixon]

Wasted year of actual playing is what this approach has turned out to be. Is not having a prospect playing valuable minutes regularly worse for his growth and improvement and development , than saving a year ELC? Lost decision in my mind. Lost Jets organization lately!

I guess the the silver lining that even with all this wasted time in the PB he has still played 49 games across all leagues and competitions this year which is what he got in last year. So he still got in enough games but he should have been used more.

 

[Teemusalami204]

I doubt Chevy is telling Maurice to play Poolman and Forbort in the top 4... Both UFA... Doubt he's telling him to play Benn over Stanley. I think it's quite obvious looking at the makeup of the roster that this is Paul Maurices team on the ice. He chooses who to play and who plays where. There are 2 many of the same examples in Maurices past history as a coach to say Chevy is telling him to play or not to play anyone. Chevy certainly has hinted at Heinola playing leading me to believe that Maurice thinks poolman Forbort and Benn are better options than Ville and Logan for that matter.

There's so many excuses for Maurice it's insane. Didn't matter when Chevy gave him 3 top RHD plus Toby and a young Josh.

All of a sudden our perennial 30 goal guys can't even hit the net? Don't look like they even care most shifts and excuses after excuses... This is Paul Maurices Jets. It's obvious

I see it differently

I think it’s a pretty blatant that Chevy wants elcs to slide. There is a 4 year plan . Maurice wheeler sheif helly etc etc.

this year doesn’t matter even though they pretend it does.

They are not teting to get elcs to slide to be cheap but to try and capitalize on them in year 3 on cheap deals in year 4 of the plan.

 

[GumbyCan2]

I doubt Chevy is telling Maurice to play Poolman and Forbort in the top 4... Both UFA... Doubt he's telling him to play Benn over Stanley. I think it's quite obvious looking at the makeup of the roster that this is Paul Maurices team on the ice. He chooses who to play and who plays where. There are 2 many of the same examples in Maurices past history as a coach to say Chevy is telling him to play or not to play anyone. Chevy certainly has hinted at Heinola playing leading me to believe that Maurice thinks poolman Forbort and Benn are better options than Ville and Logan for that matter.

There's so many excuses for Maurice it's insane. Didn't matter when Chevy gave him 3 top RHD plus Toby and a young Josh.

All of a sudden our perennial 30 goal guys can't even hit the net? Don't look like they even care most shifts and excuses after excuses... This is Paul Maurices Jets. It's obvious

Chevy needs to grow a pair of Steelies and step up and admit his mistake re-upping Maurice! Shake hands, ask for his locker-room and ol 'boys club keys, and his Jets jockeys, and wish him well at SN tv desk.

 

[tbone1968]

Read a great article in the Athletic today where they interviewed ex jackets players about the current problems with the team. What struck me was to a man they said (paraphrasing) Torts could be a prick but at least you knew where you stood. Stars and soldiers were treated the same and that means a lot to the team. Not just lip service. Hmmm

 

[Heldig]

Is it too late to undo the Laine/Pld trade?
I think they can both use a change of scenery.

Maybe should have traded Scheifele+ Roslovic for Dubois and Bjorgstrand.

 

[tbcwpg]

I see it differently

I think it’s a pretty blatant that Chevy wants elcs to slide. There is a 4 year plan . Maurice wheeler sheif helly etc etc.

this year doesn’t matter even though they pretend it does.

They are not teting to get elcs to slide to be cheap but to try and capitalize on them in year 3 on cheap deals in year 4 of the plan.

If there is a 4 year plan, the plan is to win in the next 4 years, not win IN year 4. That's ridiculous.

 

[surixon]

The plan is to win in the next 4 years, not win IN year 4. That's ridiculous.

Yup, considering we only have 4 years left on Helle and Scheifele's deals it is pretty clear that we are in our window.