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GDT: Free Agent Friend-Z Part III - Moore please?

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i would deal Boyle before Pyatt.. I know Boyle is the better player but wouldnt it be wise to maxiumize the value in a trade to dump cap space, not to just throw a player away.. Pyatt does not have much value and will be an UFA next summer.. if teams wanted him im sure it wouldnt cost more than a mid round pick 5th or 6th round pick and depth prospect ECHL level or AHL vet.... on Boyle im sure you can get much more than that like a 2ed and an average prospect or average AHL player
 
Punxrocknyc19 said:
i would deal Boyle before Pyatt.. I know Boyle is the better player but wouldnt it be wise to maxiumize the value in a trade to dump cap space, not to just throw a player away.. Pyatt does not have much value and will be an UFA next summer.. if teams wanted him im sure it wouldnt cost more than a mid round pick 5th or 6th round pick and depth prospect ECHL level or AHL vet.... on Boyle im sure you can get much more than that like a 2ed and an average prospect or average AHL player
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A better pick or a decent prospect doesn't help our team this year. Boyle will help us this year more than Pyatt will.
 
I read Pyatt knows all the new coaches. he may stay whether we like it or not.

He's really not terrible for say 10 games a yr:laugh: Problem is he just sucks for a while then has a few good games again. Real streaky

Torts loved his board work. Said that a bunch of times. So as a 4th liner it may work out but 1.5 is alot of that
 
I'm fine with a 4th line of Pyatt, Boyle and Dorsett. That line was very effective in the playoffs when used in a proper role. What puzzles me is why we went out and signed Moore. He's checking center who hasn't played in over a year. I don't think he's any better suited for a 3rd line role than Boyle is, so what gives?

Pouliot is almost certainly going to be used in the top-six. He's not a checking line forward and is too inconsistent from shift to shift to be relied upon in a 4th line role. 20 points in 32 games isn't anything to sneeze at when he was averaging 13 minutes a night and 2nd PP time.

So, where is everyone going to fit?
 
Trxjw said:
I'm fine with a 4th line of Pyatt, Boyle and Dorsett. That line was very effective in the playoffs when used in a proper role. What puzzles me is why we went out and signed Moore. He's checking center who hasn't played in over a year. I don't think he's any better suited for a 3rd line role than Boyle is, so what gives?

Pouliot is almost certainly going to be used in the top-six. He's not a checking line forward and is too inconsistent from shift to shift to be relied upon in a 4th line role. 20 points in 32 games isn't anything to sneeze at when he was averaging 13 minutes a night and 2nd PP time.

So, where is everyone going to fit?
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When your philosophy to roster building is throwing spaghetti to the wall and seeing what sticks, you can always figure that out later.
 
Bleed Ranger Blue said:
When your philosophy to roster building is throwing spaghetti to the wall and seeing what sticks, you can always figure that out later.
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Pouliot I can see some semblance of reasoning behind, but Moore just confused the hell out of me. Unless Boyle or is moved to wing, I don't see a fit. Unless they think he's a viable 3rd line center, and if that's the case, our pro scouts need to be taken out behind the shed and "let go".
 
Well if the plan isn't to trade Boyle, they could feel he is better suited at wing.

Which at least plays out the Moore/Boyle issue if Lindberg or Miller is ready in camp to take a center spot.
 
I really like what the Rangers have done in the last few days. Last year we had a 3rd and 4th line that was contributing absolutely nothing offensively. You would have to think (assuming Nash, Stepan, Brassard, Hagelin, Callahan, Richards, Zuccarello, and Kreider occupy spots in the Top 9) between...

Moore
Boyle
Dorsett
Pyatt
Pouliot
Miller
Lindberg
Kristo
Fast
Hrivik

...you will be able to find 4 guys that can slot into the lineup and give the team some offense from the Bottom 6 and take the pressure off of guys like Stepan and Nash.
 
Trxjw said:
Pouliot I can see some semblance of reasoning behind, but Moore just confused the hell out of me. Unless Boyle or is moved to wing, I don't see a fit. Unless they think he's a viable 3rd line center, and if that's the case, our pro scouts need to be taken out behind the shed and "let go".
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And this is why I think there is a trade coming.
 
Trxjw said:
Pouliot I can see some semblance of reasoning behind, but Moore just confused the hell out of me. Unless Boyle or is moved to wing, I don't see a fit. Unless they think he's a viable 3rd line center, and if that's the case, our pro scouts need to be taken out behind the shed and "let go".
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Move Boyle to wing or let him go. If there is a player that epitomizes the Torts era, it's Boyle. I think he can be a somewhat effective 4th line player and penalty killer, but nothing more.
 
Punxrocknyc19 said:
i would deal Boyle before Pyatt.. I know Boyle is the better player but wouldnt it be wise to maxiumize the value in a trade to dump cap space, not to just throw a player away.. Pyatt does not have much value and will be an UFA next summer.. if teams wanted him im sure it wouldnt cost more than a mid round pick 5th or 6th round pick and depth prospect ECHL level or AHL vet.... on Boyle im sure you can get much more than that like a 2ed and an average prospect or average AHL player
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Rather deal Pyatt for a 7th than Boyle for a 2nd.

If he can be a part of a package for a top six winger, good . But to deal him for a pick or a low level prospect should be one of the last options for clearing cap space. We got a lot of dead weight, Boyle isn't a part of it.
 
Trxjw said:
I'm fine with a 4th line of Pyatt, Boyle and Dorsett. That line was very effective in the playoffs when used in a proper role. What puzzles me is why we went out and signed Moore. He's checking center who hasn't played in over a year. I don't think he's any better suited for a 3rd line role than Boyle is, so what gives?

Pouliot is almost certainly going to be used in the top-six. He's not a checking line forward and is too inconsistent from shift to shift to be relied upon in a 4th line role. 20 points in 32 games isn't anything to sneeze at when he was averaging 13 minutes a night and 2nd PP time.

So, where is everyone going to fit?
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Even with Powe and Asham buried and no prospects making a jump besides Kreider, we have an extra forward. I see a trade coming, too.
 
Disappointing. This means he's definitely going?

There's the "Russian factor". Unfortunate reality. Thought Buistrov seemed all in on NA too. Money talks I guess.
 
HatTrick Swayze said:
Disappointing. This means he's definitely going?

There's the "Russian factor". Unfortunate reality. Thought Buistrov seemed all in on NA too. Money talks I guess.
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I don't think it was the money factor so much as it was the not-wanting-to-play-for-Winnipeg factor. They should have traded him.

They still own his rights though. If he goes to the KHL and does well, then those rights might be worth more down the road.
 
RGY said:
Wonder if the Jets will try to trade his rights.
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That's the kind of thing I'd like to buy low on. No Del Zotto. Nothing like that. Maybe a conditional pick. Definitely worth a look into.

Sather has shown a knack for finding gems in the undiscovered/reclamation projects. McDonagh looked to be a bust, Eminger turned his career around, Stralman grew to a top 4 dman, Boyle found a role.

I hope he gives Chevy a call. This could still be a ploy to push for a trade.
 
iamitter said:
McDonagh looked to be a bust
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I don't think anyone ever considered him a bust. Montreal probably didn't like the fact that he wanted to go back for his junior year. And I think they had originally projected him to be more of an offensive dman. But he still projected as at least a top 4 defender.
 
It was comical how montreal fans all talked about Prust this year as though they had gotten the better of us like we did them in the Gomez deal. I can only hope that Kristo turns out to be a gem so we can have another thing to rub in their faces lol.
 
GAGLine said:
I don't think anyone ever considered him a bust. Montreal probably didn't like the fact that he wanted to go back for his junior year. And I think they had originally projected him to be more of an offensive dman. But he still projected as at least a top 4 defender.
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He was drafted as an offensive blue liner. I'm using the term very loosely here. Would you be happy with your offensive dman drafted 12th overall to put up less than 30 pts in almost 80 games his first two seasons in college? I know he was focusing on defense - my point is more than Sather has a knack for finding diamonds (or even crappy opals) in the rough and grooming them into more than they looked to be at that point. Stralman had his accurate shot and skating in Columbus. That's basically it. The organization thought he could provide more. I'm not saying it always works out (lots of cases where it didn't), but this smells like an opportunity for Glen to buy low and possibly get a nice reward.
 
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