Speculation: Free Agent Frenzy Part II - Who is left?

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I wouldn’t stress too much over this.

No guarantee the Rangers are involved, and if they are, I’m not sure their cut is earth-shattering.
It won't be, but getting the conditions of the pick changed would be a really nice start to boost the McDonagh trade, and I'd love to bring in a kid like Stephens or Erik Cernak.

I posted about him before, but Stephens has that crazy pivot ability and lateral acceleration to really turn a dman on his toes. Working with Barb Underhill has done wonders for him, and catching some glimpses from the Calder Cup playoffs, you can see how his game has evolved since juniors. Posting a 20-20 season in your first pro season is a good sign IMO, and he'd be a nice add to a pool that's lacking a right-handed shot with his speed and playmaking skills.
 
I wouldn’t stress too much over this.

No guarantee the Rangers are involved, and if they are, I’m not sure their cut is earth-shattering.

People literally hang around all day waiting for any inkling of news so they can meltdown on a message board to pass time until games start being played. Any involvement by the Rangers in this will be earth-shattering to HFboards
 
I know I'm a few thread pages late, but I can't help myself because someone, anyone needs to say it. I'll never stop being amazed at Ranger fans who harbor any kind of negative feeling toward Ryan Callahan, a homegrown player who did everything this team asked of him. The guy put his body on the line every single night and clearly shortened his career and damaged his body to allow the team to play the style they wanted to play, shouldered more offensive responsibilities than he ever should have because of management's perpetual incompetence and inability to draft, develop, or acquire elite offensive talent, was a model citizen and admirable leader, and established himself, for as long as his health allowed, as one of the best away-from-the-puck players in the league.

For years, all this fanbase wanted was homegrown talent that bled blue. This guy exemplified that. He wanted to get paid, and guess what? He deserved to get paid. And in his first full year in Tampa, when he played with top talent, he produced.

I'll never understand how this guy gets more hate from some fans for wanting to get what he earned than the endless parade of overrated garbage this team collected like a bad addiction and overpaid before any of them had ever earned a thing wearing a Ranger jersey.

I, selfishly, would love to see Callahan back with this team, wearing the C that he earned, and setting an example for the next generation of Rangers. This team should only be so lucky if any of these prospects or young players turn out to be half the kind of Ranger that Ryan Callahan was.

But for his sake, I hope he gets to stay in Tampa. He deserves a Cup, and when healthy, was still a terrific bottom 6 role player for the Bolts.

I've said it before and I'll say it again. Aside from Henrik Lundqvist, Ryan Callahan is the most important post 94 era player to put on a Rangers sweater.
Firstly, welcome back!

Secondly, I believe that many (including myself) harbor negative feelings for Callahan because of his outrageous contract demands before he left, and for absolutely dogging it in his last year here. Otherwise, he was a model Ranger.

Personally, I'd welcome him back, but I'm not sure about how the guys that were on the 2013-14 team with him would receive him.
 
Tampa's management staff likes Killorn, but out of all of the forwards, he's the one that imo is the most easy to replace forward on the ice. Cally's contributions as well, he's a 4th liner now. While I would be okay with a reunion, the Lightning have 5 forward prospects with the ability to play in the NHL next year. 5, and two more tweeners that can fill in minutes.

Cirelli
Stephens
Volkov
Kathouck
Raddysh
Joseph
Bournival
Dumont


Then you've got Masin, Sergachev and Foote on defense.

You would think that a number of the above, and a Brayden Coburn being moved out is enough to fit in Karlsson plus some picks.

OTT has had a MW2 like No Russian policy since the 2002-2005 draft pick fallouts with Mirnov and Kaigorodov. They haven't drafted one in over a decade, and Gonchar was the last Russian to play for them half a decade ago. So does that preclude them from asking for Sergachev? No, but I could see them swinging a deal without him.

Question becomes who are the prospects?

Foote... probably. You get a top RHD prospect coming back.
Raddysh? Hype is real... not the most fleet of foot, but neither is Stone and he fits their system.
Joseph? Maybe... I would but not sure if Tampa moves him.
Katchouk? OTT would bite on him.

Add in Coburn for a spot on D and salary for OTT to hit the floor.
2019 Conditional 2019 1st (if the Rangers don't get it).
2020 1st.
2021 Conditional 1st.


Guess what? Tampa has $23M in space next year without the cap going up, and without a Callahan buyout. They can re-sign Karlsson, Kucherov, & Vasilevski with a cap hike and a Callahan buyout.

Tampa is a team that can and should pay through the teeth for him because they are set up so well with the cap and farm.
 
From Carpiniello in reference to the Bobby Ryan contract: Carpiniello: Rangers' cap space makes them an ideal third...


The Rangers, The Athletic has learned, will not be involved in a deal for that contract because they don’t believe they’ll be still rebuilding in three or four years, and having that type of albatross on the books could prevent them from signing a desired unrestricted free agent next summer.
 
From Carpiniello:

The Rangers, The Athletic has learned, will not be involved in a deal for that contract because they don’t believe they’ll be still rebuilding in three or four years, and having that type of albatross on the books could prevent them from signing a desired unrestricted free agent next summer.

This is in reference to Bobby Ryan for those wondering.
 
Tampa's management staff likes Killorn, but out of all of the forwards, he's the one that imo is the most easy to replace forward on the ice. Cally's contributions as well, he's a 4th liner now. While I would be okay with a reunion, the Lightning have 5 forward prospects with the ability to play in the NHL next year. 5, and two more tweeners that can fill in minutes.

Cirelli
Stephens
Volkov
Kathouck
Raddysh
Joseph
Bournival
Dumont


Then you've got Masin, Sergachev and Foote on defense.

You would think that a number of the above, and a Brayden Coburn being moved out is enough to fit in Karlsson plus some picks.

OTT has had a MW2 like No Russian policy since the 2002-2005 draft pick fallouts with Mirnov and Kaigorodov. They haven't drafted one in over a decade, and Gonchar was the last Russian to play for them half a decade ago. So does that preclude them from asking for Sergachev? No, but I could see them swinging a deal without him.

Question becomes who are the prospects?

Foote... probably. You get a top RHD prospect coming back.
Raddysh? Hype is real... not the most fleet of foot, but neither is Stone and he fits their system.
Joseph? Maybe... I would but not sure if Tampa moves him.
Katchouk? OTT would bite on him.

Add in Coburn for a spot on D and salary for OTT to hit the floor.
2019 Conditional 2019 1st (if the Rangers don't get it).
2020 1st.
2021 Conditional 1st.


Guess what? Tampa has $23M in space next year without the cap going up, and without a Callahan buyout. They can re-sign Karlsson, Kucherov, & Vasilevski with a cap hike and a Callahan buyout.

Tampa is a team that can and should pay through the teeth for him because they are set up so well with the cap and farm.

$23M is not enough for those 3
 
It won't be, but getting the conditions of the pick changed would be a really nice start to boost the McDonagh trade, and I'd love to bring in a kid like Stephens or Erik Cernak.

I posted about him before, but Stephens has that crazy pivot ability and lateral acceleration to really turn a dman on his toes. Working with Barb Underhill has done wonders for him, and catching some glimpses from the Calder Cup playoffs, you can see how his game has evolved since juniors. Posting a 20-20 season in your first pro season is a good sign IMO, and he'd be a nice add to a pool that's lacking a right-handed shot with his speed and playmaking skills.

Stephens is the most obvious player who would seem to fit the Rangers M.O.

He projects as a support player, but one that’s fairly easy to root for.

Not getting my hopes up though.

I’d be more than happy if it was something like Spooner and O’Gara for Stephens, Callahan, the 2019 first and a sweetener pick.
 
Erik Karlsson, Tampa Bay Lightning.

Hedman. Karlsson. Kucherov. Stamkos. Point. McDonagh. Johnson. F*** me.

The Bolts are officially the Coach Reilly-led Hawks.

 
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People literally hang around all day waiting for any inkling of news so they can meltdown on a message board to pass time until games start being played. Any involvement by the Rangers in this will be earth-shattering to HFboards
Don't judge.
 
So Tampa gets McDonagh, Hedman, Karlsson and Sergaechev and the best we could line up for Hank was Yandle, McDonagh and the corpses of Staal/Girardi. Unfair man.
 
It's a strong statement, and I respect the demonstrative confidence - but it's absolutely false.

Certainly Jagr. Gaborik's offensive run was elite for two years. (So was Nylander for that matter). McDonagh comes first as well. Zuccarello is up there. I'd put Callahan in Stepan's boat. Not a Callahan fan. Thank him for his services, big time overachiever, but never was my captain. Thankful we let him go before his body gave out at 28. Would be almost as thankful if we brought MSL behind the bench to assist Quinn's group.

I didn't say best, or most talented, I said most important. Most important because of what he symbolized.

And for the record, acquiring Jaromir Jagr was an idiotic move that set this franchise on a course for years of mediocrity and false confidence.

I love Jaromir Jagr. He is one of the 10 best players in the history of the game, and he was very fun to watch while he was a Ranger. But acquiring him made no sense, and his inflated post lockout stats led to Scott Gomez, Wade Redden, and Chris Drury, and a whole slew of terrible decisions (Sather's incredible lucking into the McDonagh trade and being able to bury Redden doesn't change the stupidity of those moves).

False hope is why, for most of Henrik Lundqvist's career, the Rangers have been a shit team he dragged into the playoffs. The Rangers should have done what they're doing now 13 years ago, but that was impossible because they traded for Jagr and signed a bunch of his friends.

All the numbers put up by Jagr, Gaborik, Nylander, and all the other "big names" amounted to was a 2 year stretch of being a false contender.

The vast majority of Lundqvist's career, the team in front of him has been slightly above average at best, and it all traces back to Jagr. And the finals-losing squad, IMO is one of the worst teams to make the finals in the modern era, and only made it because they played a hilariously bad MTL team without Price after beating, only because of Lundqvist, the Penguins in a game 7 during which they were thoroughly dominated. We had a better team the year before, when we lost to the Devils, and even that team wasn't what I would call great.

I know, unpopular opinions, but I'll stand by them and they're opinons I've held for years (and shared here before).

For everyone who's happy the Rangers are bottoming out and rebuilding, think about how that might have worked out with a 23-year-old Henrik Lundqvist.
 
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Well we knew nothing went down officially because hfboards is still up. When I can't get the site to load I'll know to check the twitters of the insiders like McKenzie or Friedman for the trade details.
 
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