Speculation: Free Agent Frenzy Part II - Who is left?
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- Aug 5, 2010
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Brooks have basically two sources: NYR FO and Lou.
Based on how Gorton stayed the line so far Lou is probably a more reasonable source here.
If the Rangers are in, similar to how Chara was brought in before, the cost to the Rangers should be nominal if Ryan’s contract is coming back too.
Savant
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If Vegas was going to move Glass, then Karlsson would already be a Golden Knight. I doubt Suzuki is on the table either, but that would be nice because Gorton and co are high on Suzuki.
JESSEWENEEDTOCOOK
Twenty f*ckin years
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I’m all team rebuild: but if you can get Karlsson, you get Karlsson. That’s been my stance on this, and it ain’t changing. ESPECIALLY if taking in Ryan’s contract lowers the price.
Inferno
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I consider Ryan to be a big negative...my offer would be...
Hayes spooner and DeAngelo or pionk. 3 roster players. They can move or re up Hayes
It's a low offer...but it's all I'd offer.
Hayes spooner and DeAngelo or pionk. 3 roster players. They can move or re up Hayes
It's a low offer...but it's all I'd offer.
TomLaidlaw
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"And I know we need that one great player who can make a difference. We’ve identified some who might become available, and if they do, we want to be in position where we’re able to get them." -James Dolan April 18th, 2018
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Trading for EK doesn't make much sense for our rebuild in my opinion but nothing surprises me anymore. The fact that Brooks broke this leads me to believe that the rumors of us being one of the teams in on this has merit.
Remember this quote?
Trading for EK doesn't make much sense for our rebuild in my opinion but nothing surprises me anymore. The fact that Brooks broke this leads me to believe that the rumors of us being one of the teams in on this has merit.
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I'd add our 2019 1st to make it DeAngelo if that was entirely necessary to push the trade over the edge
Mac n Gs
Drury plz
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I know, it was just me spitballing. It’s definitely interesting to see what we can do to facilitate a deal. IF we can get a kid like Suzuki or Glass, that would be incredible at how Gorton managed to add so many quality prospects in a two-year span.
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I think it’s even bigger negatives - Spoonman, ADA and Gilmour if Ryan’s contract is part of the deal.
Edit: I mean Ottawa is not negotiating from a position of strength since EK could just say “no, I’m playing out the last year” and then they get nothing AND will back to dealing with a need to pay someone to take on Ryan’s contract.
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smoneil
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No. No. No. I am a HUGE fan of Henrik, and I hope that he is still on the team when the rebuild yields results. I hope that they can win him a Cup, even if by then he's the backup or a platoon with one of the kid goalies. But we should NOT make moves to try and force the issue. Not only will it not work, but it will backfire. We've seen it too many times. Right now, we're a few years away from competing again, depending on which kids pan out and how quickly they develop. Chasing "one more shot" will put us 10+ years out with no assets to build with.
0% chance I offer either of Chytil or Andersson.
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To me if they can't get it done with some combo of Skjei/Pionk and Buchnevich/Hayes/Zucc+ a pick or 2 they need to walk away.
With absolute minimal time spent watching most of the top kids eligible for this draft I had Kravtsov 9th.
https://hfboards.mandatory.com/threads/olas-top-31-for-the-2018-draft.2483651/
The thing is, there is not consensus ranking. The term should be banned. We all know that teams have different lists. Just read the discrepancy described by McKenzie when polling the scouts. A NHL team’s scouting department consist of like 10 scouts. They do a good job.
The general public get to hear about 1 or 2 or 3 people’s opinion on the draft with some knowledge. Then a bunch of crap amatures copy what they have heard and move a few names around on a board. Fans believe that there is a consensus that don’t exist. Would Evan Bouchard have been a steal at 9? The so called consensus had him top 5. In fact he went 10.
It's a lot of moving parts, but it makes the most sense. Vegas gets their guy eithwit Ryan. Rangers get some building blocks. Ottawa sheds cap and gets a couple pieces to build with as well.
For the Rangers, why take on Ryan if it isn't seriously worth their while? Why sign Karlsson and then have $18m+ tied up before you know what you have with these kids?
As far as pieces leaving NY, Ottawa isn't doing the deal for peanuts. They'll want a good young player coming back. Send Skjei and sign de Haan? Hayes? Zucc isn't going to be of interest because he'll bolt next summer. Ottawa is facing down the loss of their first rounder next year. They're going go want guys who can help them push for the playoffs.
Sounds like EK wants 11.
But yeah they'd need to shed a few bodies. Zucc coming off the books helps, but they're going to be up against it when the next wave of youngin's are RFA's.
Well Zucc could help them there.
Wouldn't do a damn thing for them if they get in but compared to what they have right now, he'd be an upgrade.[/QUOTE]
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Staal, Shatty, HL and Smith will be off the books. Girardi's hit will be 1.1M instead of 3.6
We'll have more than enough space.
DanielBrassard
It's all so tiresome
It would be real tough. Wonder if Shattenkirk would be moved in that scenario. Unless Smith or Staal can be moved without retaining a ton.
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Losing Skjei or Hayes and take on a very expensive bad contract to only get Glass? Not worth it IMHO.
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