GDT: Free agency madness, brought to you by the letter G

[maclean]

Wishful thinking. If the league is going to suspend or expell the players it's the same recourse. The bottom line right now is that this entire thing is political. Did anyone read the statement from hockey Canada?

'What happened in London, Ontario in 2018 was completely unacceptable and we once again apologize to Canadians, the young woman, and all those who have been impacted. It’s important for Canadians to understand that upon learning of these allegations, Hockey Canada immediately notified police and Sport Canada, and engaged a respected Canadian law firm to conduct an independent investigation of the matter that spanned more than two years. The process was not perfect, but our goal was to respect the integrity of the investigations. Reopening the investigation is a step towards addressing the disappointment so many feel about the outcome of the process we followed.'

The police knew about it. A two year investigation from a credible law firm. But it's being re opened because and MP found out about it.... Then made it public. This is an entirely new level of social 'justice'. Shouldn't the police that investigated it be questioned here?... Isn't that how our criminal justice system works?... Havent heard anything about that... Are we going to re open every case that was settled by law if it's a high profile candidate?... Slippery slope here. Great headline to draw the eye balls away from a collapsing economy and out of control inflation from a failing government. Obviously no one condones what was reported as what happened but why didn't the police deal with this already? If they did why isn't that enough?

You are arguing a different matter. My point was just that OP's thinking seemed to be that Senators management may have some inkling of Formenton being involved and be looking to pawn him off before everything comes out. Obviously the results of any re-opened investigation stand to have an impact league-wide.

 

[DaveMatthew]

I don’t know the details of why the investigation was reopened. But supposedly the victim did not cooperate with police last time and now she is willing to do so. So that’s akin to new evidence coming to light (presumably) which allows the authorities to revisit a criminal matter.

The civil case is done and settled. But there’s no statute of limitations on rape.

From what I understand, the police are not re-opening the investigation or revisiting the matter, Hockey Canada is. That could change depending on what’s uncovered, but right now, that’s not the case.

Also, important to note, that not all of the players in the accusation were on the WJC team. This part of the story has been reported in a very misleading way, which has led people to engage in a process of elimination with the 18 player roster. But the pool of players from which there could be involvement is much, much larger.

Hockey Canada and the CHL were named as defendants in the case, as were eight unnamed CHL players “including but not limited to members of the Canada U20 Men’s Junior Hockey Team.”

We don't know how many of the 8 John Doe's were on that team. Could be 2. Could be 6.

 

[2CHAINZ]

Dude I’m legitimately LOLing right now, best post yet

Glad I could be of service

 

[Mingus Dew]

From what I understand, the police are not re-opening the investigation or revisiting the matter, Hockey Canada is. That could change depending on what’s uncovered, but right now, that’s not the case.

Got it, thanks.

 

[GCK]

Makes no sense. If he has no value here he won't anywhere else.


Jones is a top pair d man. The only place on earth that doesnt thinks so is hf boards.

I'd give Klingberg a 2 year deal. Not the ideal type of D man the sens need. However perhaps Chabot Klingberg can be a Makar Toews type puck possession pairing.

Who doesn’t think Jones is a top pair D.

 

[Burrowsaurus]

Who doesn’t think Jones is a top pair D.

Irr the s become a thing where people don’t think he’s worth his contract. Which I think is a separate argument.

 

[HSF]

At some point Seth Jones is going to be moved and it will be a haul. Big contract but top pair D man.

I think Klingberg lands somewhere at a below market contract, maybe 4 x 6M.

Seth jones retained would be unreal

I think dorion def has to make a move soon. Come august 1 all the gms are going on vacation

No one is making deals in august and once you get to camp it gets sketchy as gms start loving their rosters and don’t want to make moves

 

[Psycroptic86]

What are we thinking that Dorion gets done today? I really hope Dorion can move Zaitsev soon.

 

[Blotto71]

What are we thinking that Dorion gets done today? I really hope Dorion can move Zaitsev soon.

I think Klingberg signs somewhere today. If not in Ottawa then I'd expect trade talk to really heat up.

Any move on Zaitsev will come after the team gets a RD, because if Dorion is out of magic I would expect Nikita to be in Bellville and called up as an injury replacement in intervals with Lassi and JBD (who knows, maybe he'd get claimed off waivers!).

I also feel that whatever happens with obtaining that elusive RD will impact what Zub gets offerred.

 

[Burrowsaurus]

Montreal loaded up with two big big forwards. Toronto has matthews and soon to be knies. Tampa is tampa. We need chychrun who is a physical specimen to equalize. Chabot and Sanderson are great but not punishing.

 

[Psycroptic86]

I think Klingberg signs somewhere today. If not in Ottawa then I'd expect trade talk to really heat up.

Any move on Zaitsev will come after the team gets a RD, because if Dorion is out of magic I would expect Nikita to be in Bellville and called up as an injury replacement in intervals with Lassi and JBD (who knows, maybe he'd get claimed off waivers!).

I also feel that whatever happens with obtaining that elusive RD will impact what Zub gets offerred.

I see. That makes sense.

 

[Sun God Nika]

Out

- Murray and 75% of his salary.
- White and 66% of his salary. On the books for 6 years at 875k
- Del Zotto and 33% of his salary. On the books for 2 years at 750K
- Connor Brown
- Filip Gustavsson
- 2023 3rd round pick (OTT)
- 2024 7th round pick (OTT)
- 2022 1st round pick (OTT - #7)
- 2022 2nd round pick (OTT - #39)
- 2024 3rd round pick (OTT)


IN
- Alex Debrincat (2 years of team control)
- Claude Giroux
- Cam Talbot
- 2024 2nd round pick (WSH)

HM - Josh Norris committing for the time he did as a result of these moves.

 

[senswon]

Re: zaitsev
do we gotta give picks to offload this player? Like what kinda value does he have? Staple branny to him in a trade? A 2nd?
No idea how he's perceived elsewhere

 

[Burrowsaurus]

Re: zaitsev
do we gotta give picks to offload this player? Like what kinda value does he have? Staple branny to him in a trade? A 2nd?
No idea how he's perceived elsewhere

The fact that he’s not already gone tells us how he’s perceived

 

[Big Muddy]

It would be nice if either Thomson or JBD could step up and take Zaitsev's place. I'm not saying that this is highly likely, just that it would be nice.

We've been moving out top picks lately (see post # 1437) to acquire good players to take the next step, but having picks and ultimately good young players on inexpensive ELC contracts will be important long term. I'd like the Senators to be contenders for a long stretch (many years) ultimately.

Regarding defenders, I don't know who we will get, but getting Klingberg on a one or two year deal just seems to be too good to be true. I'm not sure if he's the right guy either, but that depends on how they project Sanderson to play (at least in his first 2 years or so). If they are thinking Sanderson will be cautious initially and just focus on being defensively responsible, then under those circumstances, Klingberg makes sense. Otherwise, not so much (or to a lesser degree) I'd think.

 

[Blotto71]

I see. That makes sense.

As He Who Shall Not Be Named would say, "Dominos"!

 

[SpezDispenser]

Let's do it!

 

[bicboi64]

Klingberg's last deal had $6 million in actual salary, even on a short term deal, not sure if we could afford that.

Carolina has $4 million in cap space and still need to sign Necas and Bear. Maybe we can pry Bear from them

 

[GCK]

Klingberg's last deal had $6 million in actual salary, even on a short term deal, not sure if we could afford that.

Carolina has $4 million in cap space and still need to sign Necas and Bear. Maybe we can pry Bear from them

Bear isn’t much of an upgrade on Zaitsev. He has potential but is not the most committed athlete apparently

 

[Psycroptic86]

Hard pass on Bear.

 

[Bevans]

Montreal loaded up with two big big forwards. Toronto has matthews and soon to be knies. Tampa is tampa. We need chychrun who is a physical specimen to equalize. Chabot and Sanderson are great but not punishing.

Knies is not a factor in this equation. Greig and pinto cancel him out.

 

[Burrowsaurus]

Knies is not a factor in this equation. Greig and pinto cancel him out.

They are not physically superior players. Good players. But not monsters.

 

[Mingus Dew]

The real question is if we get Chychrun will DJ refuse to plat him on the right side?

 

[milkbag]

The real question is if we get Chychrun will DJ refuse to plat him on the right side?

More than likely if Brannstrom is any indication about his attitude towards playing your off side. Chychrun would probably slot in 2nd with Sanderson being insulated on the 3rd pairing.

 

[Agent Zuuuub]

So explain Batherson to me. Sanderson has never played a game in the NHL.

I’m talking about team affiliation and loyalty and making personal sacrifices to achieve a goal of playing for a Cup and winning it with your friends, you’re talking about individuality that clearly players can be culled from, and they will be culled if they want more then the team can afford, do you remember Daniel Alfredsson?

And I completely outperform my coworkers daily and we still make the same amount of money as union workers. Not sure what you’re talking about

Batherson signed before his breakout and before Brady's contract. and I'm sure Batherson is feeling a little stupid right about now.

and lol so Brady and Josh eke out every cent possible to overpays but Stutzle, Debrincat, and Sanderson are expected to take under market value?