bacon25
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Weegar for a 2nd and a prospect, make it happen Dorian
GDT: Free agency madness, brought to you by the letter G - PART 2
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Tuna99
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trentmccleary
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This is where they ranked in ice time last year and in the playoffs. They added M.Staal this summer.
It looks pretty bad. Plus they're well over the cap and won't have a 1st rounder until 2026, so they can't easily fix it. Next year, they free up $10.6 million in effectively dead cap (Yandle's buyout and Hornqvist's last year).
Player / Reg. TOI rank / Playoff TOI rank
Ekblad 1 – 1
Forsling 3 – 2
Weegar 2 - 3
Chariot X – 4
Gudas 4 – 6
Montour 5 – 5
L.Carlsson 6 – X
M. Staal X – X (bottom pairing in Detroit)
2CHAINZ
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What do guys think it would cost to get Tkachuk from Florida?
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2CHAINZ
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Hub and Weegar only have 1 year left and I don't think FL could fit them so they traded them for 8 year security of Tkachuk. I don't think it's a fleecing. If Calgary manages to sign them it's a pretty big W for them and if they don't it could still be a W depending on their respective returns in trades.
Florida got what they wanted. Younger winger signed long term. I think we won’t be able to judge this until we see what Huberdeau and Weeger do contract wise.
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For people calling it a win for either Calgary or Florida, Consider the downsides for both.
1. Florida Option 1: Do you want to spend 15-16M+ for Huberdeau and Weegar into their late 30's? You also run the risk one of them leaves in Free Agency.
2. Florida Option 2: Do you want to spend 9.5M for Tkachuk into his early 30's and have 5M+ left over to fix your roster?
I think most people will pick option 2. There's a cost for option 2 though. It's a first round pick and a mediocre prospect. Even with the cost, I think I'd go for option 2, personally.
1. Calgary Option 1: Sell Tkachuk for futures. All your older players might ask out and you're stuck with a 5+ year rebuild. You're staring at the Abyss. Some of your high quality young players like Hanifin also only have a few years of contract left. It could take a decade to find a top-6, top-4, and starting goaltender like Calgary has currently after the Tkachuk trade.
2. Calgary Option 2: Trade for a risky package of assets that keeps the team competitive. If you can't re-sign them or if the team struggles, you can always sell them at the deadline for a similar value of a "futures" package that you originally sought for Tkachuk .
I think those are the reasons the trade war made.
1. Florida Option 1: Do you want to spend 15-16M+ for Huberdeau and Weegar into their late 30's? You also run the risk one of them leaves in Free Agency.
2. Florida Option 2: Do you want to spend 9.5M for Tkachuk into his early 30's and have 5M+ left over to fix your roster?
I think most people will pick option 2. There's a cost for option 2 though. It's a first round pick and a mediocre prospect. Even with the cost, I think I'd go for option 2, personally.
1. Calgary Option 1: Sell Tkachuk for futures. All your older players might ask out and you're stuck with a 5+ year rebuild. You're staring at the Abyss. Some of your high quality young players like Hanifin also only have a few years of contract left. It could take a decade to find a top-6, top-4, and starting goaltender like Calgary has currently after the Tkachuk trade.
2. Calgary Option 2: Trade for a risky package of assets that keeps the team competitive. If you can't re-sign them or if the team struggles, you can always sell them at the deadline for a similar value of a "futures" package that you originally sought for Tkachuk .
I think those are the reasons the trade war made.
Masked
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Calgary had a chance to rebuild in a year where there's potentially multiple franchise players available in the draft. Instead they're trying to tread water.
Does this trade bring them closer to winning a Cup? I'd say no.
They're either trying to win with core players in their 30's or they're delaying their rebuild by a year.
Assen na yo!
Does this trade bring them closer to winning a Cup? I'd say no.
They're either trying to win with core players in their 30's or they're delaying their rebuild by a year.
Assen na yo!
There's avreal possibility that Florida's offense is significantly worse this year. Calgary fans suggested that Tkachuk's season was largely because of Gaudreau and Huberdeau drove Florida's offense the same way.
There's no way that trading a guy who doesn't want to be there and who is set to make 9.5M per year for a guy who finished top 5 in Hart voting and the 8th leading vote getter for the Norris (who will make 150K more than Tkachuk this year) plus a prospect and a first can be a bad deal.
The biggest flaw (as a result of Gaudreau leaving) got filled in a huge way.
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Tuna99
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With whichever partner he plays best with! Try him with them all.
I would be excited to see a Chabot-Klingberg pairing as it could be very offensive oriented and significantly increase GF when one of the 2 top lines are on the ice.
I like Kilingberg and would sign him for 3 to 5 years. We have defencemen who will be moving along soon anyway: Zaitsev, Holden, Hamonic.
What we might have left would be:
Chabot - Klingberg
Sanderson - Zub (sign him too)
Brannstrom - ???? (JBD or Thomson)
Kleven/Roger/Romeo/Next Year's first rounder?
Stylizer1
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This was the biggest band aid move in NHL History. I hope Huberdeau can pull of the Kawhi Leonard run. Because If I'm him I am looking to play where I want to as a UFA.
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I'd stay away from Klingberg. I would like the defenseman we acquire to be someone who can be put out there in the last minute of the game when protecting a one goal lead. Klingberg is most assuredly not that guy.
I think the deal is a win for both. Flames get to stay competitive and if they decide they want to blow it up, they can still move a lot of pieces for futures. But they also have Lucic and Monahan coming off the books next year so they'll have capspace to make a big signing/trade to stay competitive.
Panthers get younger, and have some security to stay offensively top tier. Their defense takes a hit but with Yandle's buyout coming off the books next year, they'll be fine.
Panthers get younger, and have some security to stay offensively top tier. Their defense takes a hit but with Yandle's buyout coming off the books next year, they'll be fine.
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