Proposal: Free agency edition Trade Rumours/Proposals [MOD - Stay on Topic] 5

[frightenedinmatenum2]

If we retained half we could still get someone like Soogaard or Merilainen up and break even on cap which I would consider a net positive.

If we retain half, we have 1.375M to budge towards a backup next year and break even.

I think whoever we put behind this team is going to look bad in net, so I don't think trading Forsberg for the sake of improving our goaltending is productive in the short term.

With that said, there still might be some value to changing one of the goalies, even if the replacement is a lateral move on paper. If they project to have the team fixed for next season, maybe they want a fresh goalie in there, instead of the guy who has PTSD from playing behind a team that cannot spell deffense.

 

[frightenedinmatenum2]

That rumour is clearly fake.

If any of you NHL Twitter insiders want a solid idea for a fake Senators rumour, make it Drake Batherson for Scott Laughton as the two main pieces. It's the perfect fake Twitter trade, because it's plausible enough to happen, but it's going to upset a lot of Senators fans.

It ticks a lot of boxes:
-Moves out core member to shock the team (per Friedman).
-Clears 2M prorated of cap in preparation for Pinto's return.
-Brings in an NHL veteran who plays hard (rumoured want).
-Connection with Giroux to keep him happy.
-Sens were tied to Laughton earlier in the season.
-Flyers get a possible 80-100 point winger.

Josh Norris for Ryan O'Reilly would be another good one. It needs to be a veteran with a rep in the 28-32 year old range so that people can make Brassard for Zibanejad Twitter posts. Or, Stutzle for Robert Thomas.

 

[Boud]

That rumour is clearly fake.

If any of you NHL Twitter insiders want a solid idea for a fake Senators rumour, make it Drake Batherson for Scott Laughton as the two main pieces. It's the perfect fake Twitter trade, because it's plausible enough to happen, but it's going to upset a lot of Senators fans.

It ticks a lot of boxes:
-Moves out core member to shock the team (per Friedman).
-Clears 2M prorated of cap in preparation for Pinto's return.
-Brings in an NHL veteran who plays hard (rumoured want).
-Connection with Giroux to keep him happy.
-Sens were tied to Laughton earlier in the season.
-Flyers get a possible 80-100 point winger.

Josh Norris for Ryan O'Reilly would be another good one. It needs to be a veteran with a rep in the 28-32 year old range so that people can make Brassard for Zibanejad Twitter posts. Or, Stutzle for Robert Thomas.

All these trades would be beyond bad.

 

[HSF]

Wonder if there is a deal to be had with the Flames centered around Lindholm (with an extension) and Norris

If the flames do decide to retool

 

[Burrowsaurus]

Seems like too many pieces to be realistic

Yeah that’s something out of EA sports.

Also why is Philly trading their one good piece.

And I think that’s an overpay on us.

 

[BankStreetParade]

Trading Norris makes almost no sense. Last year, the same people wanted to shoot Batherson out of a cannon into the sun and now this year they're ready to do the same to Norris. It's almost like guys who miss an entire year due to a serious injury need quite a bit of time to get back up to NHL speed. Look at Batherson now...leads the team in goals, points and even strength points since Nov. 1st. Norris will make the same progress next year. Maybe not leading the team in those specific categories but I'd expect him to be the top goal scorer on the team and an important two-way center.

 

[frightenedinmatenum2]

All these trades would be beyond bad.

The art of fake NHL twitter trades is they have to be bad enough to rile up one fanbase, but have at least some shred of plausibility.

Something like suggesting then Senators will give up a 2nd round pick while rebuilding for an over the hill Stepan because his signing bonus was paid already.

 

[milkbag]

Brady going to cry lol

He'll go from Mr Brightside to that Sarah McLachlan world vision song at the H&C if they trade Norris

 

[Butchy Dakkar]

We laugh at the Leafs but I would love to be a perennial regular season contender. Anything can happen in the playoffs.

That said, of course I hope this handcuffs them down the road. Hopefully Willy adapts effort to guaranteed money for the next 8+ years. Wait… is that screwing us now??

 

[NyQuil]

We laugh at the Leafs but I would love to be a perennial regular season contender. Anything can happen in the playoffs.

That said, of course I hope this handcuffs them down the road. Hopefully Willy adapts effort to guaranteed money for the next 8+ years. Wait… is that screwing us now??

I mean, we are so bad we can look at virtually any other team with a certain degree of longing.

But while we toil in ineptitude, it's not rainbows and sunshine in places like Toronto and Edmonton where they've got the pieces but season after season just keeps slipping through their fingers.

 

[Micklebot]

He'll go from Mr Brightside to that Sarah McLachlan world vision song at the H&C if they trade Norris

Only Sarah McLachlan song I can think of is the vampire one... Building a mystery

 

[Do Make Say Think]

We laugh at the Leafs but I would love to be a perennial regular season contender.

We were there in the early 2000's. Hell, sometimes, we actually won playoff rounds!

 

[Sens of Anarchy]

I mean, we are so bad we can look at virtually any other team with a certain degree of longing.

But while we toil in ineptitude, it's not rainbows and sunshine in places like Toronto and Edmonton where they've got the pieces but season after season just keeps slipping through their fingers.

Playing well enough to win sufficient games to make the playoffs looks pretty good to me right now.

Unfortunately we don't look close right now and we are going to have to knock some roster moves out of the park for this to turn around quickly. The situation is so bleak .. We should not be in this position wrt the roster and the organizational depth considering where we have been finishing .
The messaging will be interesting .. but it sure feels like it will take more time to correct the mistakes made particularly over the past 2 years.

 

[Butchy Dakkar]

Playing well enough to win sufficient games to make the playoffs looks pretty good to me right now.

Unfortunately we don't look close right now and we are going to have to knock some roster moves out of the park for this to turn around quickly. The situation is so bleak .. We should not be in this position wrt the roster and the organizational depth considering where we have been finishing .
The messaging will be interesting .. but it sure feels like it will take more time to correct the mistakes made particularly over the past 2 years.

I was excited at some of the moves but sure feels foolish retrospectively to keep pushing chips in on getting certain players under the assumption we were now a contender without having come close in recent years. And all the assets squandered outside of the marquee moves. We should have a loaded prospect pipeline, even with graduating a bunch of “young” prospects over the past few years.

The legacy of PD will haunt us. I bought into the short term hope and promises like many. I’ve already been fooled twice, I know what I am.

 

[Joeyjoejoe]

Maybe something around Norris for Carlo?

 

[StoicSensFan]

We laugh at the Leafs but I would love to be a perennial regular season contender. Anything can happen in the playoffs.

That said, of course I hope this handcuffs them down the road. Hopefully Willy adapts effort to guaranteed money for the next 8+ years. Wait… is that screwing us now??

Leafs excluded. lol

Trading Norris would be beyond dumb. Unless the other team realizes how good he will be once he's back up to speed, we're selling very very low.

 

[GCK]

Playing well enough to win sufficient games to make the playoffs looks pretty good to me right now.

Unfortunately we don't look close right now and we are going to have to knock some roster moves out of the park for this to turn around quickly. The situation is so bleak .. We should not be in this position wrt the roster and the organizational depth considering where we have been finishing .
The messaging will be interesting .. but it sure feels like it will take more time to correct the mistakes made particularly over the past 2 years.

It looks bleak but if I take off my pessimist hat and put on the optimist one I can make a case for positivity.

The hardest thing to acquire is skill, we have some quality offensive players.

We have a surplus of high quality LD in Sanderson, Chabot and Chychrun and we can move one of the latter 2 to add a Zub type RD.

We have almost 50 games for Martin to teach the players to play properly without any pressure on the staff to win since he’s only here during this lost season.

We have quality centres in Norris, Pinto, Greig and Stutzle. They are quite inexperienced but stilll quality.

If we could add a veteran centre for the 3rd line we could move 2 of the above centres to wing for a couple years.

We have seen goalies leave Ottawa and look much better so it stands to reason that better team play will lead to better goaltending.

We have a lack of prospects but we are heading towards 3 picks in the top 40-45 draft slots.

We finally have gotten rid of Melnyk and Dorion.

There is no reason this team can’t pull a 2022/23 NJ Devils turnaround with a couple of very good roster moves in the offseason.

 

[Silencio]

Trading Norris makes almost no sense. Last year, the same people wanted to shoot Batherson out of a cannon into the sun and now this year they're ready to do the same to Norris. It's almost like guys who miss an entire year due to a serious injury need quite a bit of time to get back up to NHL speed. Look at Batherson now...leads the team in goals, points and even strength points since Nov. 1st. Norris will make the same progress next year. Maybe not leading the team in those specific categories but I'd expect him to be the top goal scorer on the team and an important two-way center.

Not to mention that with his current production and contract we'd be selling extremely low

 

[Hale The Villain]

Maybe something around Norris for Carlo?

Don't know if we'll have any takers for Norris on his current contract after his shoulder issues and struggles this year.

We certainly wouldn't get a solid top 4 RD on a great contract in return for him.

The trade to make with Boston was Pinto for Swayman, but I remember people thinking that was a big overpayment for some reason.

 

[GCK]

Don't know if we'll have any takers for Norris on his current contract after his shoulder issues and struggles this year.

We certainly wouldn't get a solid top 4 RD on a great contract in return for him.

The trade to make with Boston was Pinto for Swayman, but I remember people thinking that was a big overpayment for some reason.

It would have been a big overpayment. Swayman would likely be sporting a sub .900 save % behind this team.

 

[Micklebot]

Don't know if we'll have any takers for Norris on his current contract after his shoulder issues and struggles this year.

We certainly wouldn't get a solid top 4 RD on a great contract in return for him.

The trade to make with Boston was Pinto for Swayman, but I remember people thinking that was a big overpayment for some reason.

Well, he missed all of last year, so any reasonable person expected a down year. He's still pacing for 30 goals, and is only 24.

As for trading Pinto for Swayman, idk that Boston had any intent on moving him, and as GCK points out, how he performs behind a veteran Boston team and how he'd perform behind our DZ coverage could be very different.

 

[Hale The Villain]

It would have been a big overpayment. Swayman would likely be sporting a sub .900 save % behind this team.

He's never sported below .900 SV% at any level. In fact his SV% hasn't been below .910 in the USHL, NCAA, AHL or NHL.

He's been consistently above-average at every level he has played at, unlike Korpisalo, one of the most inconsistent goalies in the league, who has more sub .900 SV% seasons (5) than above .900 SV% seasons (4) in his NHL career thus far.

 

[Mark Stones Spleen]

He's never sported below .900 SV% at any level. In fact his SV% hasn't been below .910 in the USHL, NCAA, AHL or NHL.

He's been consistently above-average at every level he has played at, unlike Korpisalo, one of the most inconsistent goalies in the league, who has more sub .900 SV% seasons (5) than above .900 SV% seasons (4) in his NHL career thus far.

After playing 9 years in the NHL, Cam Talbot had only had 2 seasons below .911 before coming to Ottawa. One of them was still a good .908 and the other was a bad season in Edmonton .893. He's actually been remarkably consistent.

We turned him into a big piece of shit. We'd find a way to do the same to anyone.

 

[Micklebot]

He's never sported below .900 SV% at any level. In fact his SV% hasn't been below .910 in the USHL, NCAA, AHL or NHL.

He's been consistently above-average at every level he has played at, unlike Korpisalo, one of the most inconsistent goalies in the league, who has more sub .900 SV% seasons (5) than above .900 SV% seasons (4) in his NHL career thus far.

Well, in Providence and Boston, he's always had similar numbers to the other goalie. Both teams are/were strong clubs. Maine is harder to judge both because I never watched any of it, and because he played almost every game in his time there.

Idk that it's a sure thing he'd struggle here, but I don't think you can guarantee he'd be great here either, goalies need confidence in the team in front of them to perform at their best, they need to know they can come out to challenge and not get beat back door, in Ottawa, goalies seem to either play deep or get burnt.

 

[TheNewEra]

Norris for pulock would be interesting

Isles need scoring we need a Rd