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I wonder if Edmundson or Jensen makes sense for shutdown RD. Washington is rumoured to be signing Ethan Bear and has a handful of kids knocking on the door for a spot. There has to be a move coming from their perspective.
 
JD1 said:
I was commenting on your bolded not believing anything against your personal narrative. It's pretty standard HF. Regardless of what your narrative might be most of the time.

As for Martin ya he said that pretty much unprompted
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You can believe what you want but I have always worked on limiting biases as much as possible. The human brain works in a way that it is impossible to be 100% unbiased but my "narratives" are based on the factual evidence I have collected. On the current subject, I don't know much about what was said or not, I tend to believe anything Micklebot say as I consider him a reliable source. I was simply deducting that there's a way anyone will talk to the medias. I used the Dorion's situation as an example. They were not going to say bad things through medias but instead said he resigned himself.
 
1. Sell Tarasenko, Kubalik, Brännström, Hamonic, Forsberg for picks. Tank for Celebrini.
2. Sign Matt Roy in the offseason.

Norris - Stützle - Batherson
Tkachuk - Celebrini - Giroux
Joseph/Jarventie - Greig - Pinto
Kelly - Kastelic - Smejkal
Crookshank/MacEwan

Chabot - Zub
Sanderson - JBD
Chychrun - Roy
Kleven/Guenette

Korpisalo (anchor)
Sogaard​
 
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Micklebot said:
So he got Hamonic value (the ask not what Dorion paid).

I think a 2nd is really pushing it, even with retention, I just don't see him being that coveted. Braun got a 3rd two years ago and was a better player on a better contract. Schenn was having a great year and had a league min contract and only got a third. I just don't see teams willing to pay more than a third for a guy that will play on their bottom pair, paying for retention doesn't change what teams are will to give up for that slot. Maybe I'm wrong, I just don't see it.
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The distinction is that prices have been higher the last few years at the TDL due to cap flexibility being higher. Harmonic was traded near the TDL, not in the offseason.

He is likely worth a 4th-7th right now with no cap considerations. A 3rd or 2nd if Anaheim takes back cap.

At the deadline, maybe he gets a 2nd or 3rd without cap considerations due to teams having cap flexibility.

I could be wrong, but I think the reasoning checks out at least.
 
Xspyrit said:
You can believe what you want but I have always worked on limiting biases as much as possible. The human brain works in a way that it is impossible to be 100% unbiased but my "narratives" are based on the factual evidence I have collected. On the current subject, I don't know much about what was said or not, I tend to believe anything Micklebot say as I consider him a reliable source. I was simply deducting that there's a way anyone will talk to the medias. I used the Dorion's situation as an example. They were not going to say bad things through medias but instead said he resigned himself.
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I would say most facts presented here are used to support narratives. You're narratives are no more or less accurate than anyone else's, you just present facts to support your narratives
 
We need a GM more than a new coach at this point.

We need to start trading before the trade deadline.

Is Staios going to handle this?
 
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dpw said:
We need a GM more than a new coach at this point.

We need to start trading before the trade deadline.

Is Staios going to handle this?
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We have almost no major assets to move at the TDL.

Tarasenko and Kubalik are other only major pending UFAs. Maybe Brannstrom of they aren't going to qualify him due to arbitration.

Unless they decided to move Chychrun, or someone who isn't a pending UFA, they have nothing really to sell.
 
dpw said:
We need a GM more than a new coach at this point.

We need to start trading before the trade deadline.

Is Staios going to handle this?
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I’d argue coach is more important right now.

The core is in place. The team has committed to them. Many of them won’t be movable given contracts.

We need the core to play better and improve.

That can only be accomplished with a new coach.

Staios can handle moving the accessories like Tarasenko and Kubalik in and out. Surrounding the core with the right pieces is certainly important but that’s only beneficial if your core is playing up to snuff to begin with.
 
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This roster is constructed quite poorly which is not shocking considering who built it. All options need to be on the table to fix this crap. New coaching staff is a given so I’ll focus on players.

Outside of Brady, Stutzle, Sanderson and Giroux everyone drafted prior to 2020 should be assessed.

We need more size on the back end, more physicality up front and some experienced players who have had success in the league.

Let’s get trading. Might as well take a step back to move forward.
 
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GCK said:
This roster is constructed quite poorly which is not shocking considering who built it. All options need to be on the table to fix this crap. New coaching staff is a given so I’ll focus on players.

Outside of Brady, Stutzle, Sanderson and Giroux everyone drafted prior to 2020 should be assessed.

We need more size on the back end, more physicality up front and some experienced players who have had success in the league.

Let’s get trading. Might as well take a step back to move forward.
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No thanks. We need a new voice and direction for the team.

I also want to add more physicality up front and size on the back end, but that really adds up to 2-3 players added to the core of players we already have.

Let’s try the easy moves first and see what we have. DJ and company are lame duck coaches at this point, and it shows all through the team.
 
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GCK said:
This roster is constructed quite poorly which is not shocking considering who built it. All options need to be on the table to fix this crap. New coaching staff is a given so I’ll focus on players.

Outside of Brady, Stutzle, Sanderson and Giroux everyone drafted prior to 2020 should be assessed.

We need more size on the back end, more physicality up front and some experienced players who have had success in the league.

Let’s get trading. Might as well take a step back to move forward.
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No we need a new coach to see which assets need trading first. Not to mention you are possibly trading these assets at their lowest value. You want to see if a new coach can at least bring that value back up before losing it for pennies on the dollar.
 
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frightenedinmatenum2 said:
We have almost no major assets to move at the TDL.

Tarasenko and Kubalik are other only major pending UFAs. Maybe Brannstrom of they aren't going to qualify him due to arbitration.

Unless they decided to move Chychrun, or someone who isn't a pending UFA, they have nothing really to sell.
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Trade Chychrun he is the only one with real non-UFA value and get Demelo tru UFA to settle Chabot once and for all and let Zub with Sandy
 
We should try and get out from Norris's contract.

Shake up the core
Get a veteran Centre (doesn't have to be as productive as Norris)
Acquire more salary cap balance
 
Bileur said:
I’d argue coach is more important right now.

The core is in place. The team has committed to them. Many of them won’t be movable given contracts.

We need the core to play better and improve.

That can only be accomplished with a new coach.

Staios can handle moving the accessories like Tarasenko and Kubalik in and out. Surrounding the core with the right pieces is certainly important but that’s only beneficial if your core is playing up to snuff to begin with.
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Our two top centers haven't had the best year. That hasn't helped.
 
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Trading Norris or Chabot you don't get enough back. I'm not sure we could even trade them given their salaries and injury history. Also I doubt that moving then changes the culture of the team much either.

Some of you will blow a gasket with this one which is always funny but

Brady for Rantanen
 
Agent Zub said:
Trading Norris or Chabot you don't get enough back. I'm not sure we could even trade them given their salaries and injury history. Also I doubt that moving then changes the culture of the team much either.

Some of you will blow a gasket with this one which is always funny but

Brady for Rantanen
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I would never trade Brady but since you brought it up.

Rantannen has only 1 more year to UFA.
 
GCK said:
I would never trade Brady but since you brought it up.

Rantannen has only 1 more year to UFA.
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We can back up the brinks truck for his salary and only do the trade with an extension.

Why would you never trade Brady though? Because the culture of the team is so good?
 
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