Proposal: Free agency edition Trade Rumours/Proposals [MOD - Stay on Topic] 5

[GCK]

I think Kleven has some really nice NHL attributes but he's a ways away from securing a full time NHL slot. 100 games in the AHL would help him.

I’d be shocked if Klevin was not a full time NHL player next year. We shall see

It looks like he is enjoying himself, especially when he was playing with Ridly. It wouldn't suprise me if he did a 2 or 3 year deal. Giroux might do another 2 as well. When can Giroux do an extention? After Jan first or is it the summer?

No need to re-sign Giroux early.

Chabot to Calgary for Zadorov (as long as Z agrees to 4yr+ deal, cuz he's upcoming UFA).

We now have better D so Chabby is expendable...time to move on imo. Sell Flames on the idea that Chabby is the new #1D they need!

Zadorov would be nice as a bottom pair with his size and physicality but he’s a below average 2nd pair D.

 

[chipsens]

I’d be shocked if Klevin was not a full time NHL player next year. We shall see


No need to re-sign Giroux early.


Zadorov would be nice as a bottom pair with his size and physicality but he’s a below average 2nd pair D.

Trading C for Z would not cost us much, if anything, +/- on the ice imo...BUT it would potentially save us $millions if we can sign Zadorov for under $8million per year

 

[Silky Johnson]

Chabot for Rasmus Anderson.

He is a right D and saves us 3.5 Mil next year.

Calgary can sell Chabot for the futures they need.

 

[Micklebot]

Chabot for Rasmus Anderson.

He is a right D and saves us 3.5 Mil next year.

Calgary can sell Chabot for the futures they need.

Why wouldn't Calgary just sell Anderson for futures if thats what they need and skip the middle man?

 

[GCK]

Chabot for Rasmus Anderson.

He is a right D and saves us 3.5 Mil next year.

Calgary can sell Chabot for the futures they need.

If Chabot were to get moved it would be after the season. 8M AAV is tough to move in season.

 

[Big Muddy]

Chabot to Calgary for Zadorov (as long as Z agrees to 4yr+ deal, cuz he's upcoming UFA).

We now have better D so Chabby is expendable...time to move on imo. Sell Flames on the idea that Chabby is the new #1D they need!

Chabot and Zadorov are different kinds of defenders, but I'm not sure Zadorov is better and having him on the ice for as many minutes (or even somewhat close in minutes) as Chabot logs will result in us being better. I'd hope we could get a better return if they were to move Chabot, but who knows about that.

Why wouldn't Calgary just sell Anderson for futures if thats what they need and skip the middle man?

Trade suggestions often don't involve a lot of thinking about the motivation of the trading partner.

 

[GCK]

I think next years team will look and play quite differently next year.

I think our D will be bigger and stronger. I think we will see a change in the the top 6 to be more physical and 2 way.

 

[PoutineSp00nZ]

With Sanderson and Chychrun, it's hard to argue that Chabot seems to be the third best defenseman on the team. I don't think that he's as bad as many people here, but he's the expendable one now. Too much of the same, on the same side on that blueline.

It would be nice if some kind of good ol' hockey trade could be arranged, swapping Chabot for a more physical and defensive minded top 4 defenseman who plays the right side.

I would like to see Chychrun extended before Chabot is traded though. Chabot has proven that he's loyal to the franchise, we haven't seen that from Chych yet.

 

[JD1]

With Sanderson and Chychrun, it's hard to argue that Chabot seems to be the third best defenseman on the team. I don't think that he's as bad as many people here, but he's the expendable one now. Too much of the same, on the same side on that blueline.

It would be nice if some kind of good ol' hockey trade could be arranged, swapping Chabot for a more physical and defensive minded top 4 defenseman who plays the right side.

I would like to see Chychrun extended before Chabot is traded though. Chabot has proven that he's loyal to the franchise, we haven't seen that from Chych yet.

Chychrun is eligible to re-sign July 1, 2024. I'd like to think the team and Chychrun will have a very good feeling on the ability to get him signed next summer.

And it that feeling is good, they should look to move Chabot's contract at the draft next June. I think it'll take add one to move his deal.

 

[JD1]

I’d be shocked if Klevin was not a full time NHL player next year. We shall see

I think Kleven has the tool kit but he needs time to develop the ability to play at a quicker pace.

He mentioned in camp that he brings some size and nastiness and that his competitors don't. That's true. But if you think of Brannstrom as his direct competitor, Brannstrom's ability to move the puck out of our end is way ahead of Kleven right now.

I'd love to see him pull it altogether though

 

[GCK]

I think Kleven has the tool kit but he needs time to develop the ability to play at a quicker pace.

He mentioned in camp that he brings some size and nastiness and that his competitors don't. That's true. But if you think of Brannstrom as his direct competitor, Brannstrom's ability to move the puck out of our end is way ahead of Kleven right now.

I'd love to see him pull it altogether though

I’ll take big and strong at 850K over a 3rd pair puck mover at over 2M next year. I’m not taking a shot at Brannstrom, I like his play, but he has priced himself out of a 3rd pairing role.

 

[JD1]

I’ll take big and strong at 850K over a 3rd pair puck mover at over 2M next year. I’m not taking a shot at Brannstrom, I like his play, but he has priced himself out of a 3rd pairing role.

The problem with that is we were discussing next year which is Kleven's last year of his ELC.

You keep saying that cap isn't an issue next year.

So if that's the case, I suspect their play will be a larger factor than their contracts

 

[Samboni]

I think JBD has been getting better every game this season, but he needs some man strength and he could be a solid defender in my opinion.

I don’t think his decision making is as bad as some are saying, I think he just can’t absorb the hits and physicality to make his next play like he wants to in most cases.

The boy needs to hit the gym in a serious way. Personally I see that UND defence all over his game.

JBD needs to be more creative with the puck instead of just firing it up off the boards.

 

[OD99]

I’ll take big and strong at 850K over a 3rd pair puck mover at over 2M next year. I’m not taking a shot at Brannstrom, I like his play, but he has priced himself out of a 3rd pairing role.

I am fine with Kleven next year but I think he needs to be in the AHL so hopefully Chabot can get back on the early side of his timeline and Kleven can get big minutes and handle the puck a lot.

His games this year aren't on par with how he looked at the end of last season.

And there hasn't been much big and nasty in his game. If that is missing, his puck handling and transition are nowhere close to Branny and that leaves us stuck in our zone.

 

[GCK]

The problem with that is we were discussing next year which is Kleven's last year of his ELC.

You keep saying that cap isn't an issue next year.

So if that's the case, I suspect their play will be a larger factor than their contracts

Cap won’t be a problem unless we start over spending on the bottom of the roster.

 

[Silky Johnson]

Why wouldn't Calgary just sell Anderson for futures if thats what they need and skip the middle man?

We add a sweetener if Chabot can't return more.

 

[Korpse]

Wait, people think Chychrun is better than Chabot?

 

[frightenedinmatenum2]

They cannot move Chabot until the offseason, unless it is a Subban for Weber type hockey trade. If they move Chabot, and Chychrun desires to play out the season rather than sign an extension on July 1st, there is a risk that the Senators lose two top pairing defenseman in a year. Not to mention, Chabot being around gives the Senators additional leverage when negotiating with Chychrun.

I understand that everybody wants to trade Cody Chabot, but I think we need to see how he plays under the next coach in a different system. He's quickly becoming a whipping boy, I am surprised the injury to him didn't show people the team is better with him.

 

[Big Muddy]

They cannot move Chabot until the offseason, unless it is a Subban for Weber type hockey trade. If they move Chabot, and Chychrun desires to play out the season rather than sign an extension on July 1st, there is a risk that the Senators lose two top pairing defenseman in a year. Not to mention, Chabot being around gives the Senators additional leverage when negotiating with Chychrun.

I understand that everybody wants to trade Cody Chabot, but I think we need to see how he plays under the next coach in a different system. He's quickly becoming a whipping boy, I am surprised the injury to him didn't show people the team is better with him.

If Chabot is moved, they are going to have a hole in their top 4 at RD. And, they can't afford to lose Chychrun and have 2 holes in the top 4. Senators will need a RD that is a legit top 4 defender without losing any of their other top 4 defenders if Chabot were to moved.

 

[TonySoprano11]

Wait, people think Chychrun is better than Chabot?

Wait, you don't?

 

[Icelevel]

With Sanderson and Chychrun, it's hard to argue that Chabot seems to be the third best defenseman on the team. I don't think that he's as bad as many people here, but he's the expendable one now. Too much of the same, on the same side on that blueline.

It would be nice if some kind of good ol' hockey trade could be arranged, swapping Chabot for a more physical and defensive minded top 4 defenseman who plays the right side.

I would like to see Chychrun extended before Chabot is traded though. Chabot has proven that he's loyal to the franchise, we haven't seen that from Chych yet.

Playoff game - must win. Can only play one of the two.
Who are you playing, chabot or zub?

I argue that chabot is our 4th best dman. (At least until we find out if a new coach can help him significantly)

 

[Micklebot]

Wait, people think Chychrun is better than Chabot?

Didn't you know, Chabot is the new whipping boy, this generations Spezza.

 

[Korpse]

Wait, you don't?

I do not. Both are great defensemen and play a similar high risk style but I find Chychrun to be more erratic in his decision making on and off the puck. He isn’t the quality of defender I was expecting. Which is fine, I think there can be a spot for both though ideally not on the same pairing.

 

[2CHAINZ]

Didn't you know, Chabot is the new whipping boy, this generations Spezza.

I mean, it's not entirely unwarranted; he has been pretty bad for an 8 million dollar supposedly number one dman. We are better off with him than without him currently, but I can understand the idea of trading him for someone who makes less to play in the top four. I personally hope he comes back, regains his earlier career form, and helps this team win games. I like Chabot, but when you play like ass and make a lot, you will get singled out.

 

[HSF]

Wait, people think Chychrun is better than Chabot?

Chychrun has been considered top pairing for a while no?

He was a lock for team Canada defense

Not saying Chabot is bad but Chychrun has been good for a while

I would keep both and run a stacked LD

I’d be shocked if Klevin was not a full time NHL player next year. We shall see


No need to re-sign Giroux early.


Zadorov would be nice as a bottom pair with his size and physicality but he’s a below average 2nd pair D.

meh Kleven has a ways to go still. Run him in the AHL. No need to rush him or any guarantees he is on the roster next year. Defensemen take time unless they are elite