Proposal: Free agency edition Trade Rumours/Proposals [MOD - Stay on Topic] 5
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Well it is what it is. But didn’t he accumulate some point last year when chabot and chychrun were out?
I like Pinto, but the fact of the matter is we only win anything if Stu and Norris are a great 1-2 at center, and our 3rd line with Greig has a center who has outproduced Pinto in ppg (ok small sample size) in his career to date.
Unless you see Pinto becoming a 55-60 point 3rd line center, maybe Greig is a better option.
Maybe Pinto on wing is a substantial upgrade on Kubalik, but maybe not.
But if you consider Pinto to be surplus talent, maybe the move is to wait out a GM in the west who sees his rebuild needing a solid center, and offer a team like SJ or Anaheim Pinto + our first + whatever for their first. Or a trade with someone like Winnipeg for their 1st.
Our best core players were all top 5 picks - Tkachuk, Stu and Sanderson. Weaseling our way into another, especially with Giroux not getting any younger, could be the last piece of the puzzle.
Unless you see Pinto becoming a 55-60 point 3rd line center, maybe Greig is a better option.
Maybe Pinto on wing is a substantial upgrade on Kubalik, but maybe not.
But if you consider Pinto to be surplus talent, maybe the move is to wait out a GM in the west who sees his rebuild needing a solid center, and offer a team like SJ or Anaheim Pinto + our first + whatever for their first. Or a trade with someone like Winnipeg for their 1st.
Our best core players were all top 5 picks - Tkachuk, Stu and Sanderson. Weaseling our way into another, especially with Giroux not getting any younger, could be the last piece of the puzzle.
Ouroboros
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Who cares? It looks good and crisp and that's all that matters. Gotta get Branny his touches.
BondraTime
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Damn. I thought he racked up a few.
Still I like the look of the pp when he man’s it.
Looking good only counts in beauty pageants. I want goals......... lots of them.
The Devilish Buffoon
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Brannstrom has been one of the worst semi-regular PP D (bottom 5-15 in all categories out of the top 75-90 D in PP TOI) across the last three years and last season was his worst by far
The PP is crisp with him because he just immediately passes it off to the guy closest to him. He has no creativity or dynamism whatsoever. He's a way better PKer than PP guy, which is saying a lot because he's basically the last guy you want in a net front battle
PoutineSp00nZ
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I think that's dorions biggest mistake. The small contracts. I dig branstrom as a bottom pair defenseman, and even harmonic I'd a perfect bottom pair guy who can sub up when needed.
But damn... Pinto needed to get signed first.
Maybe it's on Pinto to an extent. He wouldn't budge on demands and Dorion moved ahead with other business hoping to get baxk to Pinto later.
But it all turned into a cluster f***. And dorions big blunders, bad free agent signings and bad contracts resulting in buy outs and burying cap have come back to haunt him.
frightenedinmatenum2
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What about Kubalik for Boqvist?
I can't imagine Boqvist has any real value right now. He is no longer a young prospect, he has been scratched, and he has term. Sens are desperate for a RHD, and now with the Brannstrom injury, they are down 2 defensemen. I get he was a top 10 pick, but that was ages ago, he's basically their Brannstrom in a sense that he was a highly touted prospect who has settled into being a #5-6 in the NHL.
For Columbus, it gets them out of the 2nd year of his contract when it is clear they have more than one redundant D with term. They likely prefer to move Peeke, but I doubt they can without also taking back term.
I can't imagine Boqvist has any real value right now. He is no longer a young prospect, he has been scratched, and he has term. Sens are desperate for a RHD, and now with the Brannstrom injury, they are down 2 defensemen. I get he was a top 10 pick, but that was ages ago, he's basically their Brannstrom in a sense that he was a highly touted prospect who has settled into being a #5-6 in the NHL.
For Columbus, it gets them out of the 2nd year of his contract when it is clear they have more than one redundant D with term. They likely prefer to move Peeke, but I doubt they can without also taking back term.
Do Make Say Think
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You can look good while not actually being good enough.
Brannstrom just isn't good enough. It sucks for us and for him, clearly he works hard, everyone here would love for him to be producing.
The Devilish Buffoon
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Why are we desperate for a RHD? Not like Boqvist would play in our top 4. Regardless, give me Peeke over Boqvist any day.
I'd trade a 6th for Ian Mitchell or some other borderline NHLer before making a move for Boqvist or Peeke, personally.
Cest la vie.
When he’s no longer one of the best 6 d we should move him along
frightenedinmatenum2
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Peeke is another option, but he has more term left.
Peeke is a much better fit for our lineup, but he comes with a lot more risk. Nobody wants to trade Joseph at this point, but it would have to be something like Joseph for Peeke for me to feel comfortable with it.
Prior to the Pinto suspension, myself and other posters had discussed something based around Brannstrom/Kubalik for Peeke, with the logic being that it balances the Senators lineup and frees up room to sign Pinto at the expense of taking on the risk of Peeke's term. For Columbus, they would take on a bit of extra cap this season but get out of the Peeke contract. I don't think that same deal makes sense today with how much has changed.
Agent Zuuuub
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Why focus only on production?
A lot of things Brannstrom does well even if the numbers don't show up. And if the numbers did convert, he would become too expensive.
BondraTime
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Incoming one last upper decker from Dorion before he hits the road.
One of CLB’s shit D for the Sens 2024th 2nd, for old times sake
He’ll find a spot somewhere next year
One of CLB’s shit D for the Sens 2024th 2nd, for old times sake
Yeah he’s just not very good.
He’ll find a spot somewhere next year
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Friedman on the Marek show "One of the things I have been working on today is that there are rumours now that they gonna make a GM change, there are rumours now that if they are gonna pay a penalty for the Dadonov trade. There are a lot of rumours and parts of it might be true and parts might not be. "
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frightenedinmatenum2
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There isn't going to be a solution where we get a good defenseman. We probably find a veteran on a 1M type contract who is cast out somewhere and reasonably shouldn't be playing above a #6 spot, and we give up a 4th round pick or something because it's preferable to playing JBD in the top 4.
How bad is Myers? Surely, Tampa would give him up for free to get his 250k buried penalty off the books.
How bad is Myers? Surely, Tampa would give him up for free to get his 250k buried penalty off the books.
