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Because! That's why!
Only if they rescind their complaint about Dadanov and we get our 1st backTo Vegas - Chychrun + Tank 50% retained
To Ottawa - Zach Whitecloud
Vegas is always all in.
Only if they rescind their complaint about Dadanov and we get our 1st backTo Vegas - Chychrun + Tank 50% retained
To Ottawa - Zach Whitecloud
Vegas is always all in.
Yeah. We would be doing it a little different no doubt.Sens keeping both, top 3 D paid ~25 million
Vegas: Theodore, Pie, McNabb - 16.85 million
Colorado: Makar, Girard, Toews - 18.1 million
Lightning: Hedman, McD, Sergachev - 19.4 million
Lightning: Hedman, McD, Sergachev - 19.4 million
Blues: Pie, Boumeester, Parayko - 17.4 million
Caps: Orlov, Orpik, Niskanen - 16.3 million
Pens: Cole, Schultz, Daley - 7.5 million
Pens: Letang, Schultz, Daley - 13 million
Pretty simple, no? Even adjusting cap Sens would be spending a significantly, significantly higher amount on their top 3 D than every single cup winner over the past 10+ years.
It's actually very close to Colorado, since the cap was flat.And when compared to every other winner, still incredibly, incredibly, incredibly high. These teams stop being contenders as soon as the players get above a salary threshold.
Teams aren’t paying their top 3 D excessive amounts of money. Sens would be the highest in the league, by a significant margin.
It’s generally 1 star making 7+, 1/2 mid level pay guys from 5-7, and balanced depth.
Vegas will have a much harder time winning when Theodore is making more than 5.2, the same way the Lightning are struggling with Sergachev making 8.5 instead of 4.5.
Sens are going straight to that point, without the winning, and that wouldn’t bode well.
Right now (obviously should have another ~3-4 guys added) there are only 18 D making 8 million a year for 2025.
Only teams with more than 1 are the Sens, Sabres and Rangers. No teams with more than 2. If the Sens keep Chych, they will account for 3/22ish, ~14% of the D making 8+ in the entire league. That’s not good. At all.
LA is in shambles right now and might need a shake up. I don't want to wait for Roy to be traded to a contender and extended, go acquire him now and sign him. Brannstrom for Roy plz
We’d need to add a significant amount, Brann has very little value, and Roy would return a 1st+ at the deadline.LA is in shambles right now and might need a shake up. I don't want to wait for Roy to be traded to a contender and extended, go acquire him now and sign him. Brannstrom for Roy plz
Yikes, their season is like their arena's namesake, an unpredictable roller coaster where one min you think their going to the moon, the next you're pulling copper wire out of the wall...LA is in shambles right now and might need a shake up. I don't want to wait for Roy to be traded to a contender and extended, go acquire him now and sign him. Brannstrom for Roy plz
Not every team is going to look at Brannstrom as "The Savior". He is very popular among fans here but he is the opposite of what teams are looking for on the back end 3rd pair. He has to go to a rebuilding team that doesn't have a lot of pieces.LA is in shambles right now and might need a shake up. I don't want to wait for Roy to be traded to a contender and extended, go acquire him now and sign him. Brannstrom for Roy plz
LA is in shambles right now and might need a shake up. I don't want to wait for Roy to be traded to a contender and extended, go acquire him now and sign him. Brannstrom for Roy plz
I don't think they give up Clarke in any situation. If we give up Chychrun without retention and add someone like Kubalik or Tarasenko (with retention), I think we can get Roy, a prospect like Kaliev (might replace Tarasenko's production in the coming years) and a 1st.How about:
TO LA:
Chychrun
Bos 1st
To Ottawa:
Roy
Clarke
We’d need to add a significant amount, Brann has very little value, and Roy would return a 1st+ at the deadline.
Well Sandin was 2 years younger, and had 20 points in only 50 games games as a 22 year old, Brannstrom has yet to hit the 20 point mark at 24. Don't think there's an aspiring playoff team in the league that wants Brannstrom getting more than 15 minutes a night, nor are there many rebuilding teams who want to give up any kind of value for a huge gamble. He's already past the 200 game thresholdIt's going to be interesting to see what value ends up being. I'm not saying he'll get anywhere close to this, but Rasmus Sandin went for a 1st at last year's deadline, and they're pretty similar in profile. Young defenceman who can play now and who have upside are not worthless.
Personally, if I'm running a younger team, I would pay to gamble on Brannstrom. The Sens did the hard work of turning him into a playable defensive 3rd pairing guy. Maybe in a role that's better suited to his skillset - e.g. 2nd pair LHD, 2nd pair PP - he finds another level and you're looking at a Kimmo Timonen type just entering his prime.
I’ve always liked brannstrom. In a perfect world chabot and chychrun would be able to play on the same pair…but that doesn’t seem to be the case. So brannstrom has gotta goI actually like how Brann has played for most of this year. He's really good with first passes and moves the puck nicely in transition. There's a reason he's a plus player. That being said I'd make this trade in a New York minute. The LA Kings, however, would not.
Yeah sandin for a first was fishy to me.It's going to be interesting to see what his value ends up being. I'm not saying he'll get anywhere close to this, but Rasmus Sandin went for a 1st at last year's deadline, and they're pretty similar in profile. Young defenceman who can play now and who have upside are not worthless.
Personally, if I'm running a younger team, I would pay to gamble on Brannstrom. The Sens did the hard work of turning him into a playable defensive 3rd pairing guy. Maybe in a role that's better suited to his skillset - e.g. 2nd pair LHD, 2nd pair PP - he finds another level and you're looking at a Kimmo Timonen type just entering his prime.
Well Sandin was 2 years younger, and had 20 points in inly 50 games games, Brannstrom has yet to hit the 20 point mark. Don't think there's an aspiring playoff team in the league that wants Brannstrom getting more than 15 minutes a night, nor are there many rebuilding teams who want to give up any kind of value for a huge gamble.
Could very well be wrong, but can't see any team in the league putting value on Brannstrom
Would you trade 3 first round picks for Whitecloud? Because thats what you are saying.Nope. Perfect fit for the Sens
Okay so looks like they won’t do what I said
Okay so looks like they won’t do what I said
He's worthless. No playoff team has players like him in their lineup. He's an undersized borderline bottom pair D man. I dont think any teams see him as a fit if they are trying to be competitive. If he finds 40 pounds maybe he is Timonen. HGH isnt allowed though.It's going to be interesting to see what his value ends up being. I'm not saying he'll get anywhere close to this, but Rasmus Sandin went for a 1st at last year's deadline, and they're pretty similar in profile. Young defenceman who can play now and who have upside are not worthless.
Personally, if I'm running a younger team, I would pay to gamble on Brannstrom. The Sens did the hard work of turning him into a playable defensive 3rd pairing guy. Maybe in a role that's better suited to his skillset - e.g. 2nd pair LHD, 2nd pair PP - he finds another level and you're looking at a Kimmo Timonen type just entering his prime.
Based on Staios's interview they wont be targeting players like Kaliev. They dont need any more guys like that they need fast, hard heavy forwards they have the guys in the skill positions up front. More players like Joseph, Formenton etc. Workers that can play on an offensive line.I don't think they give up Clarke in any situation. If we give up Chychrun without retention and add someone like Kubalik or Tarasenko (with retention), I think we can get Roy, a prospect like Kaliev (might replace Tarasenko's production in the coming years) and a 1st.
Which is compounded even further because none of the 3 of them look like they can provode 8M value lining up a RDSens keeping both, top 3 D paid ~25 million
Vegas: Theodore, Pie, McNabb - 16.85 million
Colorado: Makar, Girard, Toews - 18.1 million
Lightning: Hedman, McD, Sergachev - 19.4 million
Lightning: Hedman, McD, Sergachev - 19.4 million
Blues: Pie, Boumeester, Parayko - 17.4 million
Caps: Orlov, Orpik, Niskanen - 16.3 million
Pens: Cole, Schultz, Daley - 7.5 million
Pens: Letang, Schultz, Daley - 13 million
Pretty simple, no? Even adjusting cap Sens would be spending a significantly, significantly higher amount on their top 3 D than every single cup winner over the past 10+ years.
Cuts off the part where he says that the Cap will come into play
One of Chabot/Chychrun, undoubtedly. Both are top pair D when they are on, which is likely to be happening more moving forward.you can argue that Brannstrom is more reliable/smarter defensive player than Chabot/Chychrun (8m worth d)
so a cap strapped good team could see a lot of value in Brannstrom for 2-3m, especially in the 2 to 2.5 range.
what is better, Brannstrom-Zub at 7-8 mill combined on shorter easily moveable contracts.
Or just one of Chabot or Chychrun at 8m on long hard to move contracts?