Proposal: Free agency edition Trade Rumours/Proposals [MOD - Stay on Topic] 5

[Cosmix]

I'd be fine with that deal. Looked over in the NYR posts, they really want Goodrow gone because he just isn't working there.

What makes you think Goodrow will work here if he is not performing well for NYR?

 

[Tuna99]

trade Forsberg, Tarasenko, Chychryn, Kubalik, Brannstrom.

you could keep Chychryn but why pay a Dman $8 million to play on his offside. Use the assets from the Chychryn trade to get a RD who makes between 4-5 million

 

[Cosmix]

trade Forsberg, Tarasenko, Chychryn, Kubalik, Brannstrom.

you could keep Chychryn but why pay a Dman $8 million to play on his offside. Use the assets from the Chychryn trade to get a RD who makes between 4-5 million

We could retain Chychrun and overpay our D in 2025-26 and beyond. Thus we would become a D focused team with lower cost forwards and goaltending.

 

[frightenedinmatenum2]

I could see this if it was a hockey trade, like a Foligno for Methot kind of deal where you get a defenseman which is more of a need.

But I don’t see them trading him for picks or for increased cap flexibility. I think their cap flexibility is okay for what needs to be done, and I think they’ll probably get some picks/prospects for Chychrun and Tarasenko… not sure they really need to move Joseph for any of that.

In the scenario I am referring to, it's a hockey trade by proxy.

They aren't rebuilding. Whatever assets they accrue at the TDL (cap+picks+prospects) will be used to acquire roster players in the offseason.

 

[frightenedinmatenum2]

What makes you think Goodrow will work here if he is not performing well for NYR?

If we take Goodrow, there needs to be cap considerations, or we need to be heavily compensated.

I don't mind them taking an overpriced veteran back in a Chychrun or Tarasenko deal. The return needs to be higher to reflect the value of Ottawa taking back the bad contract. A name I suggested if Chychrun goes to Winnipeg was Nate Schmidt, either at his full cap hit or with retention to make him cap in/out with Chychrun's current deal.

In a normal Chychrun scenario, they either take back a bad contract, but it's expiring at the end of the season. Or, they take back a player with a similar cap hit who is closer to neutral value, but is redundant on their current team. These are things the Coyotes could not do last year due to their budget, and it is apparently why the market for Chychrun did not escalate.

 

[PlayOn]

In the scenario I am referring to, it's a hockey trade by proxy.

They aren't rebuilding. Whatever assets they accrue at the TDL (cap+picks+prospects) will be used to acquire roster players in the offseason.

Yeah, my point is moreso that if you’re moving Tarasenko and Chychrun, I don’t know that you need to move Joseph to accrue more assets that can be utilized. They’d have enough to restructure the team accordingly without doing that imo.

Also think it’d be smarter to hold onto him and revisit that next year once they make changes this summer. I don’t think it’d be smart to do it at all at once, they can start the process this summer and then reassess once they see what’s needed after the initial round of changes.

 

[bicboi64]

What makes you think Goodrow will work here if he is not performing well for NYR?

JM got that magic

 

[Tuna99]

We could retain Chychrun and overpay our D in 2025-26 and beyond. Thus we would become a D focused team with lower cost forwards and goaltending.

i see it more:

Ott: Mcgroady
winn: Chychryn

ottawa uses the $4.5 million from the Chychryn savings to pay a RD FA or uses assets t trade for a RD

 

[bicboi64]

i see it more:

Ott: Mcgroady
winn: Chychryn

ottawa uses the $4.5 million from the Chychryn savings to pay a RD FA or uses assets t trade for a RD

Given how good Winnipeg has been this season, I wonder if they'd pay to move Schmidt or risk having him move up from the third to the 2nd pairing next season. They'll try to extend DeMelo given his chemistry with Morrissey.

Might be able to get Dillon for cheap or get nice compensation for taking on Schmidt.

 

[Burrowsaurus]

Given how good Winnipeg has been this season, I wonder if they'd pay to move Schmidt or risk having him move up from the third to the 2nd pairing next season. They'll try to extend DeMelo given his chemistry with Morrissey.

Might be able to get Dillon for cheap or get nice compensation for taking on Schmidt.

We need righties.

 

[Tuna99]

Given how good Winnipeg has been this season, I wonder if they'd pay to move Schmidt or risk having him move up from the third to the 2nd pairing next season. They'll try to extend DeMelo given his chemistry with Morrissey.

Might be able to get Dillon for cheap or get nice compensation for taking on Schmidt.

bring Demelo here, we know he and Chabot work together

 

[Samboni]

Joseph under no circumstances should be traded. He is exactly what this team needs more off. Not less. Low cap player with a lot of speed that can play up and down the lineup, and produce offensively and defensively (especially on the PK).

My problem with Joseph is that he is all flash and no finish.

 

[Hale The Villain]

Given how good Winnipeg has been this season, I wonder if they'd pay to move Schmidt or risk having him move up from the third to the 2nd pairing next season. They'll try to extend DeMelo given his chemistry with Morrissey.

Might be able to get Dillon for cheap or get nice compensation for taking on Schmidt.

Schmidt's not waiving to come here.

 

[frightenedinmatenum2]

Schmidt's not waiving to come here.

It isn't as if he is playing in Florida. He also only has a 10 team list that apparently didn't have Winnipeg on it, so it is possible we aren't on it.

He is playing in the winter hellscape that is Winnipeg. He also would go unclaimed on waivers and otherwise has played his way out of a prominent role.

Winnipeg also might be in the market for another defender, so if they do get one, it pushes Schmidt into healthy scratch territory.

He may value a change of scenery where he would have a shot at top 4 minutes with Chychrun possibly gone from Ottawa.

 

[Hale The Villain]

It isn't as if he is playing in Florida. He also only has a 10 team list that apparently didn't have Winnipeg on it, so it is possible we aren't on it.

He is playing in the winter hellscape that is Winnipeg. He also would go unclaimed on waivers and otherwise has played his way out of a prominent role.

Winnipeg also might be in the market for another defender, so if they do get one, it pushes Schmidt into healthy scratch territory.

He may value a change of scenery where he would have a shot at top 4 minutes with Chychrun possibly gone from Ottawa.

He waived for Winnipeg because he's from Minnesota, which isn't too far away.

 

[Joeyjoejoe]

My problem with Joseph is that he is all flash and no finish.

Que? He’s been really productive for a guy that doesn’t get any PP time, and only hard match ups.

He is 4th on the team for 5v5 goals. Ahead of Norris, Stutzle and Greig.

 

[DueDiligence]

trade Forsberg, Tarasenko, Chychryn, Kubalik, Brannstrom.

you could keep Chychryn but why pay a Dman $8 million to play on his offside. Use the assets from the Chychryn trade to get a RD who makes between 4-5 million

Chychrun's cap is $3.4 million less than $8 million. Chabot is the $8 million D man that should be traded.

 

[JungleBeat]

Time to buy low on Hart.

 

[salomonster]

I'm not trading Chychy without seeing him actually get to play with a solid RHD. Like a season with a Zub like player. But it hasn't be so yet much.

To me Tank and Branny, Kuba are the guys I'm moving at the deadline.

Tank late 1st maybe, more likely a 2nd.
Branny just needs to play in his role which is as a puck mover, to qb the pp. He's a solid nhler who's not playing in the role which will have him excel. I think his value is better some of the mentions on this thread.

If Chychy is moved it should be at the draft where more teams have optionss

 

[Icelevel]

Time to buy low on Hart.

Yeah and sign formenton

 

[bert]

i see it more:

Ott: Mcgroady
winn: Chychryn

ottawa uses the $4.5 million from the Chychryn savings to pay a RD FA or uses assets t trade for a RD

That's awful for chychrun. They just gave up 11th and two 2nds. He's worth way more. They don't need a LD anyways Winnipeg needs a center. That's one team that could be a good trading partner for Norris.

They should not be trading him either way. No reason to do that he's good he wants to be here.

I'm not trading Chychy without seeing him actually get to play with a solid RHD. Like a season with a Zub like player. But it hasn't be so yet much.

To me Tank and Branny, Kuba are the guys I'm moving at the deadline.

Tank late 1st maybe, more likely a 2nd.
Branny just needs to play in his role which is as a puck mover, to qb the pp. He's a solid nhler who's not playing in the role which will have him excel. I think his value is better some of the mentions on this thread.

If Chychy is moved it should be at the draft where more teams have optionss

No playoff team is trading for Brannstrom though. Really not sure maybe they can deal him in a 3 way deal. I really don't think he has any value unfortunately.

They'll get a late first for Tarasenko especially if they retain.

Don't see a scenario where anyone takes Kubalik either unfortunately.

Don't trade Chychrun.

 

[aragorn]

To LA: Tarasenko LHRW & Thompson RD ($5 mil out)
To Ott: Roy RD & Kaliyev RW ($4 mil in)

To Columbus or Ann: Kubalik LW & Brannstrom LD ($4.5 mil out)
To Ottawa: Peeke RD or Lyubuskin RD ($2.750 mil in)

- make a decision in the summer on one of Chabot or Chychron. (Chabot - Laine)
- both Tarasenko & Roy are UFAs, might need contracts in place for each.
- place Hamonic on waivers
- Columbus could pair up Gubranson & Brannstrom to form a GubransonBrannstrom tandem.
- LA might want to add Tarasenko for more scoring in the playoffs. They got the better RW & we got the better RD?

Tkachuk - Stutzle - Giroux
Greig - Norris - Batherson
Joseph - Pinto - Kaliyev
Kelly - Kastelic - MaEwan

Sanderson - Roy
Chabot - Zub
Chychron - Peeke/JBD

 

[sensfan44]

Time to buy low on Hart.

Terrible
…straight up for Formenton?

 

[SpezDispenser]

I'd lock Chychrun up and trade chabot. Chychrun is our 2nd best D, I really think it's a mistake to move him unless he won't re-sign.

 

[Tuna99]

That's awful for chychrun. They just gave up 11th and two 2nds. He's worth way more. They don't need a LD anyways Winnipeg needs a center. That's one team that could be a good trading partner for Norris.

They should not be trading him either way. No reason to do that he's good he wants to be here.


No playoff team is trading for Brannstrom though. Really not sure maybe they can deal him in a 3 way deal. I really don't think he has any value unfortunately.

They'll get a late first for Tarasenko especially if they retain.

Don't see a scenario where anyone takes Kubalik either unfortunately.

Don't trade Chychrun.

They keep everyone this summer - they will trade Branny and Forsberg for cheaper salary and replace them with Kleven and Soggard and save +$2 million in cap space
They will resign Vlad Tarasenko an after trading him this summer.

They keep Chychryn and sign him next summer to an extension

Next summer they trade Josh Norris after Stutzle, Pinto and Greig have had a year to season and use that cap space to extend Chychryn