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Tarasenko and Kubalik to NYR for Laf and Goodrow.

Tkachuk/Stutzle/Giroux
Laf/Norris/Bath
Grieg/Pinto/Joseph
Kelly/Goodrow/Kastelic
MacEwan

Even with healthy scratching JBD and MacEwan, 690k in space with Anton active and Pinto signed to ELC.
 
Qward said:
Tarasenko and Kubalik to NYR for Laf and Goodrow.

Tkachuk/Stutzle/Giroux
Laf/Norris/Bath
Grieg/Pinto/Joseph
Kelly/Goodrow/Kastelic
MacEwan

Even with healthy scratching JBD and MacEwan, 690k in space with Anton active and Pinto signed to ELC.
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Lafreniere still has a lot of value, so it would depend on how much negative value that you attribute to the contract of Goodrow.

It would be like us trading Pinto or Greig for Tarasenko if we were in the playoff race.

Tarasenko is probably worth a 2nd of we retain or take back cap. I don't think he is worth a 1st, like last year. He is one more year removed from being a superstar than he was last year.
 
Cosmix said:
I think Lafrenniere alone would cost more than Tarasenko and Kubalik.
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Kakko would make more sense in this scenario if you take out Goodrow.

He is arbitration eligible and is one of those players in an awkward position where their team may not want to qualify them because they are tight to the cap and don't want to risk a reward that is higher than the player is worth but not high enough to qualify to walk away from.

In a best case scenario, Kakko is probably worth a 2nd. Tarasenko with retention for Kakko. Sens should have the cap flexibility to test drive Kakko for a year.
 
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Qward said:
Tarasenko and Kubalik to NYR for Laf and Goodrow.

Tkachuk/Stutzle/Giroux
Laf/Norris/Bath
Grieg/Pinto/Joseph
Kelly/Goodrow/Kastelic
MacEwan

Even with healthy scratching JBD and MacEwan, 690k in space with Anton active and Pinto signed to ELC.
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Rangers fans all consider Laf their most improved player, and consider Goodrow their worst player.
 
frightenedinmatenum2 said:
Kakko would make more sense in this scenario if you take out Goodrow.

He is arbitration eligible and is one of those players in an awkward position where their team may not want to qualify them because they are tight to the cap and don't want to risk a reward that is higher than the player is worth but not high enough to qualify to walk away from.

In a best case scenario, Kakko is probably worth a 2nd. Tarasenko with retention for Kakko. Sens should have the cap flexibility to test drive Kakko for a year.
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I'd rather get a draft pick
 
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frightenedinmatenum2 said:
Lafreniere still has a lot of value, so it would depend on how much negative value that you attribute to the contract of Goodrow.

It would be like us trading Pinto or Greig for Tarasenko if we were in the playoff race.

Tarasenko is probably worth a 2nd of we retain or take back cap. I don't think he is worth a 1st, like last year. He is one more year removed from being a superstar than he was last year.
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He's getting a first. He is exactly what a contender wants to push them over the edge. Experienced, heavy player who has won a cup and knows what it takes. Still producing on a bad team and his Contract is expiring.
 
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I could see us being interested in all of these players at varying degrees in Calgary:

Coleman
Markstrom
Weegar
Andersson
Maybe even Kadri

Calgary has 3 RHD playing in their top 4 and we have 3LHD in our top 4. Both teams are struggling.

Weegar and Coleman

For

Chychrun and Batherson/Norris?
 
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Some UFA RHD that play top 4 mins (and aren't disasters defensively). Any of these guys of interest to the sens in the offseason? Or, potentially in a deadline deal with an extension in place?

DeMelo 42 gp 1g 13 pts 21:43
Roy 39 gp 2g 11 pts 20:48
Pesce 34 gp 3g 7pts 20:14
Walker 43 gp 4g 14pts 20:07
Tanev 40 gp 1g 8pts 19:16
Myers: 43 gp 3g 18pts 19:08
Hakanpaa 42 gp 2g 8pts 18:58
 
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Boud said:
I could see us being interested in all of these players at varying degrees in Calgary:

Coleman
Markstrom
Weegar
Andersson
Maybe even Kadri

Calgary has 3 RHD playing in their top 4 and we have 3LHD in our top 4. Both teams are struggling.

Weegar and Coleman

For

Chychrun and Batherson/Norris?
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I think Coleman is a buyer beware addition, you're paying a major premium for a big outlier of a season. Good player that plays the way we want, but worst possible time to try and trade for him.
 
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frightenedinmatenum2 said:
I certainly hope that you're right.
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I mean, he got a first last season with nearly identical stats outside of his plus minus (which is actually significantly better).

We will have to retain in order for any team to fit him in, potentially take a contract back too, but if we can't get a first for him, it's likely because he is being exceptionally difficult with the NMC.
 
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Boud said:
I could see us being interested in all of these players at varying degrees in Calgary:

Coleman
Markstrom
Weegar
Andersson
Maybe even Kadri

Calgary has 3 RHD playing in their top 4 and we have 3LHD in our top 4. Both teams are struggling.

Weegar and Coleman

For

Chychrun and Batherson/Norris?
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They won't want Chychrun without an extension. Most players don't want to play for Canadian teams. Huberdeau and Weegar extended because Calgary arguably overpaid and gave them very aggressive contracts while the cap was still (almost) flat. If they are willing to offer Chychrun an 8 year 9.5M buyout proof contract with a NMC, he would probably extend there...

Weegar also has a NTC so it's safe to assume he won't come to Ottawa. He is from here, so there is a small possibility that he would want to play for the team. I like Weegar as a target if we could get him.

The most sensible deal with Calgary might be a series of trades. We trade Chychrun for assets, then those assets enable us to move equivalent assets to Calgary for Andersson. That would solve the problem with us having too many RHD.

Andersson has a similar cap hit to Chychrun. Most importantly, Andersson has an extra year of term. That extra year would give us time to figure things out. If the team doesn't pull together next year and they decide to execute a more radical sell-off of players, they would have the option to recoup some assets for Andersson.
 
Micklebot said:
Some UFA RHD that play top 4 mins (and aren't disasters defensively). Any of these guys of interest to the sens in the offseason? Or, potentially in a deadline deal with an extension in place?

DeMelo 42 gp 1g 13 pts 21:43
Roy 39 gp 2g 11 pts 20:48
Pesce 34 gp 3g 7pts 20:14
Walker 43 gp 4g 14pts 20:07
Tanev 40 gp 1g 8pts 19:16
Myers: 43 gp 3g 18pts 19:08
Hakanpaa 42 gp 2g 8pts 18:58
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I think pesce will price himself out of us. I think tanev may as well.
 
Micklebot said:
Some UFA RHD that play top 4 mins (and aren't disasters defensively). Any of these guys of interest to the sens in the offseason? Or, potentially in a deadline deal with an extension in place?

DeMelo 42 gp 1g 13 pts 21:43
Roy 39 gp 2g 11 pts 20:48
Pesce 34 gp 3g 7pts 20:14
Walker 43 gp 4g 14pts 20:07
Tanev 40 gp 1g 8pts 19:16
Myers: 43 gp 3g 18pts 19:08
Hakanpaa 42 gp 2g 8pts 18:58
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Any of those would be solid UFA pickups. Likely all upgrades on JBD and Hamonic.

A RD along with 1-2 defensively responsible wingers would be a solid off-season.
 
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If Chychrun is unwilling to re-sign, ending up with Weegar would be one of the best case scenarios.

It would solve one of the major problems with the backend by adding a RHD. He is cost controlled for many years through a rising cap. Chychrun likely costs 8M-9.5M to extend.
 
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Micklebot said:
I agree they are both looooong shots, but, if we move out Tarasenko and say Chychrun, there's a lot of wiggle room in the budget, more if it's Chabot instead of Chych.
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I know we should be past this but .. I am liking the top end of the draft if we can get another first similar to the one we gave up for Chychrun. How much of a reset are we doing.. Having Sanderson, Kleven and Silayev on the left side could be a good way to reset the LD.
Kleven will be at least bottom pair ready.. same for Silayev now in the KHL at 17 .
Levshunov on the right side would be nice add.
All that said. It would not make me sad to move on from both Chychrun and Chabot. (realizing its unlikely)
 
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bert said:
He's getting a first. He is exactly what a contender wants to push them over the edge. Experienced, heavy player who has won a cup and knows what it takes. Still producing on a bad team and his Contract is expiring.
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It will be interesting to see what Staios will get for Tarasenko given that Tarasenko controls where he can be traded.
 
Burrowsaurus said:
Some interesting right hand D available in free agency.

Dumba Roy Walker takes hronek lyubushkin

Trade brannstrom. Trade Kubalik and tank gone. Dead money coming off.

Maybe we can afford the cheapest one.

What we absolutely need is cheap good forwards to round out the roster.

I’m not a cap guy so I dono.
(Not real lines just listing guys)
Tkatchuk Norris giroux
Someone stutzle batherson
Greig Pinto Joseph
Someone someone someone. (All cheap).

Sanderson zub
Chabot lyubushkin
Chychrun JBD.

Which forwards we looking at? Speedy vets. I also don’t know how much that lineup costs. But we have to keep in mind giroux is coming off the books or at least making less after that year.

Greig raise coming tho.
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If Giroux continues to play as well as he has, he may not make less than he is getting now.
 
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