GDT: Free agency edition Trade Rumours/Proposals [MOD - Stay on Topic] 2

[Que]

This team really needs players that are hard to play against they don't need Tatar types either. What was posted was a classic internet fan. 'I don't know why he doesn't score more in the playoffs'. Because he is small and slow that's why. Built for the regular season. Sometimes you need to watch the players in actual games. Ottawa has skill. They need fast physical players that can contribute offensively.


Or they could sign one of the 8 ufa goalies for free for 2 years instead of trading every single asset they have. Which is next to nothing.

Irt Thompson, he is signed for 2 more seasons I believe at league minimum. I’m not personally a big fan, but the value is there in our current cap situation. Every decent UFA goalie should cost double to triple he will cap wise.

And worrying about what he might ask to re-sign in two years is two years away. Which is really my point there.

Sens trade debrincat a 1st another 2nd that could be a first and the only good prospect for a 33 year old Karlsson. They literally couldn't give him away last year. Stutzle and Sanderson are 21 years old. This will completely fail the rebuild and it would be for absolutely nothing. You can't go 4 /5 years without a first rounder in the middle of a rebuild. There are so many goalies out there right now that can be had for free the market is complete saturated.

The craziest part about all of this is it doesn't address a single team need or weakness they have their top 4 d. The sens have no forward depth.

No one has cap space. Debrincat alone has more value than Karlsson considering his age and contract. Sens basically adding 3 first rounders potentially. What is going in here.

Just going off the reported ask from the media, which I believe was three first round value assets for EK.

I doubt we’d be finished there (Joseph or Grieg would be on line 2. Yeesh) - we’d still end up trading Chabot I think, but we’d probably get more return for him than DeBrincat.

I see people (and myself) pining for EK to come home, and while possible, it’s going to cost us one way or the other.

I’ve seen random tweets about how Toronto could get EK for just 33% of Chicago and San Jose each retain 33% for “futures” (which they don’t have). I believe Lanikeinen and 17 would probably be good value for DeBrincat as Lanikeinen himself probably nets a 2nd and you’d have to pay extra for Nashville to eat 2 million a season on EK (Ostapchuk).

That's the most absurd trade proposal I have ever seen.

You missed my Valtrex high Quinten Byfield proposal at the trade deadline. I think I almost killed our boy @2CHAINZ he laughed so hard he almost died choking on smoke.

 

[Sens of Anarchy]

 

[Sens of Anarchy]

 

[Gil Gunderson]

Risky signing.

 

[Que]

Sakic does it again!

:@

 

[Sens of Anarchy]

Risky signing.

how so?

 

[Daffy]

Why does Ottawa always get screwed? Same situation as Dubois and PLD forced his way to LA and the Kings gave up a kings ransom. But Ottawa is going to get nothing for Debrincat? Makes no sense. Dorion is a joke.

 

[Hale The Villain]

Sakic does it again!

:@

High 2nd for Colton is fair.

He's a good 3rd liner, but the way people are talking about him you'd think he's some kind of star in the making.

 

[GCK]

We should have taken Hall for free.

NTC had Ottawa on it.

 

[Sensinitis]

If we're getting a 1st and another prospect I wouldn't mind Zadina.

Can put him on the 3rd line with Pinto.

Not sold on him whatsoever though, there's a lot of players I'd much rather have from other teams like Marchment for example.

 

[bert]

High 2nd for Colton is fair.

He's a good 3rd liner, but the way people are talking about him you'd think he's some kind of star in the making.

He's exactly the type of player the sens are missing. Fast physical forward that can score 20 and has a good motor. I think its a steal for 37th OA. He's 26. Would have been a perfect Formenton replacement.

 

[SpezDispenser]

Why does Ottawa always get screwed? Same situation as Dubois and PLD forced his way to LA and the Kings gave up a kings ransom. But Ottawa is going to get nothing for Debrincat? Makes no sense. Dorion is a joke.

How do you know what's going to happen though? And Dubois is a playoff performer (and a whiny bitch), but still, a big center, will slot into the 2nd C position and make LA much tougher in the spring, which is exactly what they want.

Debrincat has only played a handful of games in the playoffs and is a tiny little guy, who has a tiny list of teams (it appears). But still, we should wait until the trade is done

 

[Que]

High 2nd for Colton is fair.

He's a good 3rd liner, but the way people are talking about him you'd think he's some kind of star in the making.

Is Newhook better? Likely and in a few years will be a very good player - but for a team trying to win another cup and not thinking about the future like that, they just upgraded Newhook with a more developed player and still have an asset to try and acquire another player.

 

[Gil Gunderson]

Why does Ottawa always get screwed? Same situation as Dubois and PLD forced his way to LA and the Kings gave up a kings ransom. But Ottawa is going to get nothing for Debrincat? Makes no sense. Dorion is a joke.

Screwed or Dorion shooting himself in the foot? There's a difference.

 

[SpezDispenser]

He's exactly the type of player the sens are missing. Fast physical forward that can score 20 and has a good motor. I think its a steal for 37th OA. He's 26. Would have been a perfect Formenton replacement.

Contract though...as in, how much $$

 

[Hale The Villain]

Is Newhook better? Likely and in a few years will be a very good player - but for a team trying to win another cup and not thinking about the future like that, they just upgraded Newhook with a more developed player and still have an asset to try and acquire another player.

Colton was better this season. Montreal paid more for Newhook because he's 5 years younger and has more offensive upside.

 

[Artanis]

I'm thinking Ottawa needs to trade DBC before the season starts.
No team that would trade for him is going to remove from their roster closing in on the playoffs. If you're Ottawa, losing a top6F right before playoffs and not getting something back really kills you.

 

[bert]

Because our guy sucks as selling off assets. He got lucky with the Karlsson one but Zibby, Stone, Duchene, Hoffman all shit returns.

I mean Dubois and Debrincat arent really similar players. One plays a way more important position, one impacts the game in about every way and is a big heavy physical player. The other is an undersized one dimensional winger. The demand is nothing alike. But yes who is selling is also impacting this.

Because GMs irrationally fantasize when they hear 6'3 220 Two-Way Center.

Yeah irrationally when every single team that wins is big and physical?... Dubois was an absolute force in the playoffs. He went head to head against Matthews and outplayed him. Its the reality not a fantasy. Scoring winger is the easiest thing to aquire in hockey. Big two way centermen is the least.

 

[Cosmix]

NTC had Ottawa on it.

I think Ottawa is on all the NTCs.

 

[Alf Silfversson]

You clearly only watch the games on t.v and only see what you want to see. If you think Hamonic isnt a physical player. You also hate Brady Tkachuk. You clearly arent an authority on physical play or the impact it has on hockey games. Hamonic always breaks up the cycle which you have to go to games to watch. Or maybe you arent capable of identifying it, he blocks lots of shots and he finishes all his checks. I am not saying he is a world beater he is a bottom pair d man but to say he isnt physical is hysterical.

Hamonic is tough as nails. The guy is all heart.

My problem with him last year that was that he tries to do all those things you mentioned but he lost too many battles for my liking last year. The guy is a warrior and very far from a soft player. I just feel like his physical tools may be starting to decline and because he gets out-muscled more often than not he doesn't tick the "hard to play against" box as much for me. If he's healthy though I'd still be happy to have him on our 3rd pair.

Worth noting that I advocated us signing Hamonic in the 2020 offseason and was told by members of the Dorion Booster Club that Josh Brown and Gudbranson were both far superior. LOL.

 

[Burrowsaurus]

Most annoying thing is Calgary going for the quick turnaround last year instead of rebuild. We would have been heavy on tkatchuk if they wanted futures

 

[Alf Silfversson]

I mean Dubois and Debrincat arent really similar players. One plays a way more important position, one impacts the game in about every way and is a big heavy physical player. The other is an undersized one dimensional winger. The demand is nothing alike. But yes who is selling is also impacting this.


Yeah irrationally when every single team that wins is big and physical?... Dubois was an absolute force in the playoffs. He went head to head against Matthews and outplayed him. Its the reality not a fantasy. Scoring winger is the easiest thing to aquire in hockey. Big two way centermen is the least.

Problem with Dubois is that he only gives a shit in about 60% of the games it seems. All the tools but not sure he's a guy you can rely on to go hard every night. And at age 25 I'm not sure that will ever change.

 

[Que]

Most annoying thing is Calgary going for the quick turnaround last year instead of rebuild. We would have been heavy on tkatchuk if they wanted futures

He never would have signed here. He was all about that bag. And got it. $

 

[SpezDispenser]

Have we acquired Shitbird Zadina and a 3rd yet?

 

[Nac Mac Feegle]

I'm thinking Ottawa needs to trade DBC before the season starts.
No team that would trade for him is going to remove from their roster closing in on the playoffs. If you're Ottawa, losing a top6F right before playoffs and not getting something back really kills you.

Also don't like the idea of disrupting the room knowing he's on the way out. We need a fast start this year. No distractions.