GDT: Free agency edition Trade Rumours/Proposals [MOD - Stay on Topic] 2

[BonHoonLayneCornell]

Cause attractive teams can afford to overpay, they will replace the assets with UFAs.

Nor should we be surprised Dubois got more, it was always going to be that way. Big physical center compared to a very small winger that hasn't yet produced away from his former future hall of fame linemate, as he wants a massive 8 year deal.

 

[Artanis]

Stop being scared of being on the ledge of the window, it's ok!

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[guyzeur]

Colton would have been an awesome pickup. Damn that really sucks. Must be nice to have a guy like Sakic at GM.

Or located in an attractive city in the USA

 

[Daffy]

Or located in an attractive city in the USA

Colton getting traded to Colorado has nothing to do with that.

 

[guyzeur]

Nor should we be surprised Dubois got more, it was always going to be that way. Big physical center compared to a very small winger that hasn't yet produced away from his former future hall of fame linemate.

That and until proven otherwise, people still see him as a product of Kane.

 

[BonHoonLayneCornell]

That and until proven otherwise, people still see him as a product of Kane.

Yes, that's what I meant with my word salad there. Its just a tough spot having a down year in his first away from him.

 

[Daffy]

That and until proven otherwise, people still see him as a product of Kane.

I wouldn't say close to 70 points is not producing. That should still fetch a good return.

 

[BonHoonLayneCornell]

I wouldn't say close to 70 points is not producing. That should still fetch a good return.

66 in 82 is nothing to shake a stick at, but it's a pretty significant drop off. Also had a tough year in 2019-20, so that's now 2 out of the last 4 seasons his production has been fairly below ppg with goal counts of 18 and 27.

By all accounts, it sounds like he wants his new contract to reflect what he's done other years as a 40 goal, ppg guy, which may be the bigger issue for teams acquiring him. You don't want to give him 8.5 mil for 8 years and find out he's a ~25 goal scorer decently below a ppg.

 

[Agent Zuuuub]

If DBC was able to put up 66 points playing with Batherson and Pinto, i'm pretty sure he could have added at the very least 10 or so extra points with Stutzle if not more. especially since Stutzle creates space and DBC finds space.

but now everyone thinks DBC sucks and we will most likely get pennies compared to what we paid for him. buy high sell low, the Pierre Dorion way.

 

[Philadelphia Collins]

Hard not to be envious of these US teams trading big assets for a player and he rewards them by signing a multi-year extension

Stick to draft & develop I guess

 

[Sens of Anarchy]

The Meier contract is going to provide the DeBrincat camp with a target

 

[BonHoonLayneCornell]

The Meier contract is going to provide the DeBrincat camp with a target

Other than the size difference, it appears to be a pretty solid comparable.

Kind of glad we won't be the ones giving DeBrincat that.

 

[BondraTime]

The Meier contract is going to provide the DeBrincat camp with a target

They can try, don’t think there’s a team in the league that would pay DBC what they would pay Meier though.

 

[Beech]

66 in 82 is nothing to shake a stick at, but it's a pretty significant drop off. Also had a tough year in 2019-20, so that's now 2 out of the last 4 seasons his production has been fairly below ppg with goal counts of 18 and 27.

By all accounts, it sounds like he wants his new contract to reflect what he's done other years as a 40 goal, ppg guy, which may be the bigger issue for teams acquiring him. You don't want to give him 8.5 mil for 8 years and find out he's a ~25 goal scorer decently below a ppg.

should he follow up this seasons -31 (plus/minus) with another.

His total will be around 530 games played and -70. That would put him amongst the 50 or worse active NHLrs.

Batherson and Chabot are already on that list of infamy..

I wonder how much is scaring GMs off?

 

[SpezDispenser]

If DBC was able to put up 66 points playing with Batherson and Pinto, i'm pretty sure he could have added at the very least 10 or so extra points with Stutzle if not more. especially since Stutzle creates space and DBC finds space.

but now everyone thinks DBC sucks and we will most likely get pennies compared to what we paid for him. buy high sell low, the Pierre Dorion way.

Yep.

 

[Nova Stutzlia]

Re Cat and Kane:
Kane also had a big drop off without Cat.
After a 92 point season in 78 games, Kane had 57 points in 73 games.

I've posted this a least twice before, but, apparently, some people don't like facts.

 

[BankStreetParade]

How does 14P in 21GP and 4P in 11 playoff games get you 8 x 8.8 with that team? Seems kinda crazy, no?

 

[Emerica]

 

[Sun God Nika]

How does 14P in 21GP and 4P in 11 playoff games get you 8 x 8.8 with that team? Seems kinda crazy, no?

He scored 40 goals this year

Was ppg last year with 35 goals

They also had to entice him not to take 10m QO that took him straight to UFA

 

[guyzeur]

Colton getting traded to Colorado has nothing to do with that.

You're right but TB can also overpay in a trade and they don't have to care too much about their picks/prospects cause they can sign UFAs.

So what the heck if Colorado got want they wanted and that their GM look great in a trade

 

[Sens of Anarchy]

They can try, don’t think there’s a team in the league that would pay DBC what they would pay Meier though.

Don't disagree .. not saying he'd get it but his agent can look at that and use it to validate his position to try for it.

 

[guyzeur]

I wouldn't say close to 70 points is not producing. That should still fetch a good return.

I didn't say he didn't but the goals weren't there (blame the coach)

 

[Micklebot]

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That graphic is from an 8 year old article...

As an aside, the article did reference a survey of agents,

Agents mentioned “winning,” “weather,” a “vibrant nightlife,” a “proud organization,” stable “ownership,” the ability to “spend” on building a winning team and, in particular, the “media scrutiny” that comes with playing in intense, hockey mad Canadian markets.

Astoundingly, not one agent told ESPN that taxes were a motivating factor in deciding where they want to play!

Stable ownership, maybe ability to spend might have increase, media scrutiny here is pretty low relative to other Canadian cities so that's a positive, and hopefully winning is on the way to being resolved.

 

[GSG1165]

Domi at the right price would be a solid add.

 

[Sens of Anarchy]

How does 14P in 21GP and 4P in 11 playoff games get you 8 x 8.8 with that team? Seems kinda crazy, no?

I would bet they look at a slightly bigger sample size and think he has that kind of value in a rising cap world .