GDT: Free Agency: Dr Strangedubas or How We Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Nerd

[Gurglesons]

This one should be better defensively/possession wise. But yeah top six is gonna be doing the offensive heavy lifting again

Eller, Granlund and Carter are all fairly poor possession players.

Knowing Sullivan they will play more than Nieto, Acciari, and DOC or Nylander.

 

[Darren McCord]

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Bottom six last year versus this year.

DOc most likely bumps Nylander and produced about the same as McGinn and Blueger.

So pretty much the same but maybe better defensively

 

[Pancakes]

Eller, Granlund and Carter are all fairly poor possession players.

Knowing Sullivan they will play more than Nieto, Acciari, and DOC or Nylander.

It's a start. Hopefully granlund still gets moved.

I wanted more but like I said when you won't move young assets this is what you get. Can't get good young talent without drafting or trading for it.

 

[Gurglesons]

It's a start. Hopefully granlund still gets moved.

I wanted more but like I said when you won't move young assets this is what you get. Can't get good young talent without drafting or trading for it.

I'd rather have taken a risk on DOC, Poehling and Acciari as our fourth line and then just ran with Carter, Granlund and a better contract.

 

[BlindWillyMcHurt]

Well I mean if Todddddddddd said Ellers was a good idea I'm sure he must be.

I guess at least if the bottom six is going to get buried every night it's not the worst ideas to have some coal miners down there. I've been complaining for years that trying to pretend that this team can run three scoring lines with Sullivan's usage is dumb.

 

[HandshakeLine]

Not thinking of another banner as of this moment.

Neither is ownership, let’s be honest.

 

[mephisto1812]

Dude, today wasn’t good. Maybe he makes more moves later, but no objective fan can be happy after today. Not even the most loyal broom riders.

We could have reincarnated and signed a 23-24 year old Mario Lemieux and signed him today and you still would be pissed off and bitching.

 

[Pancakes]

I'd rather have taken a risk on DOC, Poehling and Acciari as our fourth line and then just ran with Carter, Granlund and a better contract.

Fair. Ehler is a bit of a headscratcher.

 

[Turin]

What;s going on with EK65?

Imminent. Pettersson, Rakell, Eller are actively recruiting him. Why? Cuz the hockey world needs this.

 

[Empoleon8771]

It's good to know that free agency is done at 6:47 PM on July 1st.

So far, Dubas has collected the pieces for a good 4th line. He still has work to do with the 3rd line, but there are more moves this team is going to make.

 

[HandshakeLine]

Well I mean if Todddddddddd said Ellers was a good idea I'm sure he must be.

I guess at least if the bottom six is going to get buried every night it's not the worst ideas to have some coal miners down there. I've been complaining for years that trying to pretend that this team can run three scoring lines with Sullivan's usage is dumb.

This is, yet again, basically the team that Sully wants. People will bitch and moan about how the great Dubas betrayed them, but it’s pretty clear after 3 different GMs go out of their way to get these players, this is what Sullivan wants.

 

[Malkinstheman]

Well I mean if Todddddddddd said Ellers was a good idea I'm sure he must be.

I guess at least if the bottom six is going to get buried every night it's not the worst ideas to have some coal miners down there. I've been complaining for years that trying to pretend that this team can run three scoring lines with Sullivan's usage is dumb.

Yeah for the first time in years the bottom 6 is actually built the way Sullivan will use them. I don't agree with the low offense bottom 6 strat but atleast they're commiting to something.

 

[ChaosAgent]

As it stands today, I think Puustinen makes the roster

 

[Gurglesons]

i love that people keep throwing out the “roster isn’t decided nonsense” the GM came out and said he is comfortable with the roster.

Dubas is following the same script as Hextall. Spend a 2nd or a 3rd every year for a low impact player and resign and largely shape the team in UFA.

 

[BlindWillyMcHurt]

This is, yet again, basically the team that Sully wants. People will bitch and moan about how the great Dubas betrayed them, but it’s pretty clear after 3 different GMs go out of their way to get these players, this is what Sullivan wants.

No way man. Sullivan is both universally respected and tenured and also has no voice and was helpless and silenced up until just this year.

 

[Turin]

It's good to know that free agency is done at 6:47 PM on July 1st.

So far, Dubas has collected the pieces for a good 4th line. He still has work to do with the 3rd line, but there are more moves this team is going to make.

Everything is always done immediately and the GMs are always completely honest about stuff like trades. That is how it has always been and ever more shall be.

 

[Shrimper]

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Bottom six last year versus this year.

60G vs 59G

82A vs 75A

141PTS vs 134PTS

Marginally better in every category assuming Nylander plays and there are no trades or signings. Better defensively too

 

[Gurglesons]

60G vs 59G

82A vs 75A

141PTS vs 134PTS

Marginally better in every category assuming Nylander plays and there are no trades or signings

I was nice and didn’t base it off of Granlund’s time here. That’s the big issue.

Maybe Smith goes to arb and we buy him out. Would make us right there cap wise.

 

[Malkinstheman]

Hopefully with Eller and Acciari here now, Sullivan won't use Carter as some defensive Stalwart. Bury those guys in the Dzone. Give old man Carter easy minutes

 

[Big Friggin Dummy]

Top-6; Roughly the same. Zucker out for Smith is probably a slight bump offensively, but not much. Need Sid/Geno to be healthy again, which is probably a big ask at their age and with how many miles they've got on their bodies from hockey.

Bottom-6; Roughly the same offensively, hopefully better defensively. Boring, but predictable. You need your bottom-6 to not lose you games, you don't need your bottom-6 to win you games, imo.

Blueline; Graves for Dumo is a clear improvement, and at this stage of the era nobody's term matters. Letang should be better, and hopefully he and Petry have better years health-wise/play-wise. We'll see. EK65 woulda been cool, because watching good players play hockey is fun. I don't really give a shit about wins and losses when the team's cooked.

Goalie; Jarry sucks as an option, but it is what it is. I'm told we couldn't *possibly* have gone another direction, but all I'm hearing is "we tried nothing and we're all out of ideas". Again, boring, but entirely expected. I think Ned's kinda shit too, but maybe that was just a rough year in Detroit.

 

[Andy99]

This is, yet again, basically the team that Sully wants. People will bitch and moan about how the great Dubas betrayed them, but it’s pretty clear after 3 different GMs go out of their way to get these players, this is what Sullivan wants.

Yea and they’re all vets 30+ in age…we went from icing players in their 20s in the bottom six to everyone except DOC being over 30…horrific…players 30+ don’t bring the same energy night after night

 

[Gurglesons]

Top-6; Roughly the same. Zucker out for Smith is probably a slight bump offensively, but not much. Need Sid/Geno to be healthy again, which is probably a big ask at their age and with how many miles they've got on their bodies from hockey.

Bottom-6; Roughly the same offensively, hopefully better defensively. Boring, but predictable. You need your bottom-6 to not lose you games, you don't need your bottom-6 to win you games, imo.

Blueline; Graves for Dumo is a clear improvement, and at this stage of the era nobody's term matters. Letang should be better, and hopefully he and Petry have better years health-wise/play-wise. We'll see. EK65 woulda been cool, because watching good players play hockey is fun. I don't really give a shit about wins and losses when the team's cooked.

Goalie; Jarry sucks as an option, but it is what it is. I'm told we couldn't *possibly* have gone another direction, but all I'm hearing is "we tried nothing and we're all out of ideas". Again, boring, but entirely expected. I think Ned's kinda shit too, but maybe that was just a rough year in Detroit.

Yeah it’s the same exact roster with a little bit of more defensive capacity.

Yea and they’re all vets 30+ in age…we went icing players in their 20s in the bottom six to everyone except DOC being over 30…horrific…players 30+ don’t bring the same energy night after night

Sully dream line up tbh.

 

[Turin]

Remember when Hextall signed Josh Archibald and was all strangely proud of it. He also "liked the team" after signing Rutta and Archibald.

And then proceeded to trade Marino and Matheson

 

[Empoleon8771]

Top-6; Roughly the same. Zucker out for Smith is probably a slight bump offensively, but not much. Need Sid/Geno to be healthy again, which is probably a big ask at their age and with how many miles they've got on their bodies from hockey.

Bottom-6; Roughly the same offensively, hopefully better defensively. Boring, but predictable. You need your bottom-6 to not lose you games, you don't need your bottom-6 to win you games, imo.

Blueline; Graves for Dumo is a clear improvement, and at this stage of the era nobody's term matters. Letang should be better, and hopefully he and Petry have better years health-wise/play-wise. We'll see. EK65 woulda been cool, because watching good players play hockey is fun. I don't really give a shit about wins and losses when the team's cooked.

Goalie; Jarry sucks as an option, but it is what it is. I'm told we couldn't *possibly* have gone another direction, but all I'm hearing is "we tried nothing and we're all out of ideas". Again, boring, but entirely expected. I think Ned's kinda shit too, but maybe that was just a rough year in Detroit.

So another way you can put it is that the team either stayed the same or got better in every area

 

[Malkinstheman]

Kinda funny that Dubas said he wanted to get younger and then did the exact opposite of that lol. Graves was his only under 30 addition. I don't care too much about age, as long as they are productive