GDT: Free Agency: Dr Strangedubas or How We Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Nerd

[ZorkEnchanter]

I'd laugh my ass off if the Pens were just the 3rd team in the EK deal. You guys would be funny as hell posting on this board.

Also, gotta give Dubas some credit for trying. It looks like he's definitely enacting a different plan for the WBS.

Also, giving Sullivan all the old toys he craves, and will hang himself for it.

 

[66-30-33]

I'd laugh my ass off if the Pens were just the 3rd team in the EK deal. You guys would be funny as hell.

Also, gotta give Dubas some credit for trying. It looks like he's definitely enacting a different plan for the WBS.

Also, giving Sullivan all the old toys he craves, and will hang himself for it.

Is it Dubas or...Spezza?

 

[Empoleon8771]

As for Karlsson; I don't see any risk. Era's coming to a close, playoff streak is done. The only thing left is to try and be entertaining as things wind down with Sid's career.

I do think there is a "risk" there but it's not a risk I particularly give a shit about. The risk is Karlsson being injury prone and not worth what you paid for him. But trading Ty Smith and 2 1sts for Karlsson isn't going to cripple the team long-term, so who gives a shit?

Like I said above, I think it's more likely that they don't get the value out of Karlsson that they're going to be paying for him, but doing that isn't going to really have any demonstrable impact on the team long-term. You'll have some Penguins fans bitch about "we overpaid for Karlsson!" in 4 years as the team is dogshit regardless.

Trading for Karlsson today isn't like trading for Brassard in 2018, where striking out on Brassard had major impacts of them not contending after 2018.

 

[Big Friggin Dummy]

Kane's trash.

Also, give Sullivan whatever he wants. Go above and beyond to get him what he asks for. That way, when the team still sucks, he'll have no excuses left and he can legitimately be put on the hot seat next summer. (He won't be, let me dream)

 

[Big Friggin Dummy]

I do think there is a "risk" there but it's not a risk I particularly give a shit about. The risk is Karlsson being injury prone and not worth what you paid for him. But trading Ty Smith and 2 1sts for Karlsson isn't going to cripple the team long-term, so who gives a shit?

Like I said above, I think it's more likely that they don't get the value out of Karlsson that they're going to be paying for him, but doing that isn't going to really have any demonstrable impact on the team long-term. You'll have some Penguins fans bitch about "we overpaid for Karlsson!" in 4 years as the team is dogshit regardless.

I don't even know if it's gonna be that expensive to land him since he's already demanded a trade and has said Pittsburgh is a preferred destination. Feels like the Phil situation playing out again. Still skeptical it gets done because of how many things need to go right, but when the deal's finished, I wouldn't be surprised if it was Granlund, Petry, lotto protected 1st in 2024, Pickering/Smith/whatever loser prospect they want, 3rd in 2024 or something. Probably need a third team for Petry, which may be the hold up.

 

[AuroraBorealis]

What is the highest paid blue line in the salary cap era?
The Canes are at 29M. They'll be around 25M after Pesce leaves. Add Karlsson and you're at like 33M?

Is this really what they're doing?

 

[Nakawick]

Well if Karlsson is gone then we are on to Roman Josi right?

 

[ChaosAgent]

Then why did his goal count drop by 14 when he left Kane?
Kane's hip was f***ed this year. He needed surgery a long time ago. I wouldn't read too much into his output.

Other teams are reading a lot into his output, considering he remains unsigned.

 

[66-30-33]

Well if Karlsson is gone then we are on to Roman Josi right?

Hanafin probably, who knows maybe Fowler.

 

[AuroraBorealis]

Other teams are reading a lot into his output, considering he remains unsigned.

Friedman said he plans to wait until he's closer to playing before signing. He'll be out until November, if he returns in the middle of his projected timeline.

 

[K Fleur]

What is the highest paid blue line in the salary cap era?
The Canes are at 29M. They'll be around 25M after Pesce leaves. Add Karlsson and you're at like 33M?

Is this really what they're doing?

Sharks had 26m tied up to just 3 defenseman when they had all 3 of Burns, EK, and Vlasic.

 

[Jobeycool]

What is Dubas planning by signing all these bottom line forwards?

 

[Ginormousthumbs]

Pens are out of the EK race?

 

[K Fleur]

What is Dubas planning by signing all these bottom line forwards.

To spread out the complaints about scrub bottom 6 guys among 10 players instead of just Simon and ZAR.

 

[AuroraBorealis]

Sharks had 26m tied up to just 3 defenseman when they had all 3 of Burns, EK, and Vlasic.

True. Definite contenders. Nashville too at one point.

 

[AuroraBorealis]

What is Dubas planning by signing all these bottom line forwards?

Fixing Wilkes, injury insurance, more competition for roster spots after a year where Wilkers didn't get chances, more options for compatibility based on their needs, more guys who can have outlier production years on bargain deals.

 

[66-30-33]

Pens are out of the EK race?

If rumors are true of Nashville getting Pesce and whoever else and Canes using those assets they get back for EK, probably. Those damn jerks!

 

[CascadiaPenguin]

I've heard the offer is two firsts, POJ to SJ and Granlund to a third team

That is fine by me. POJ is unlikely to fill out and dumping Hexy’s TDL brain fart would be glorious.

 

[Allie Kitsune]

If rumors are true of Nashville getting Pesce and whoever else and Canes using those assets they get back for EK, probably. Those damn jerks!

I've seen someone say SJ specifically wants Fabbro from Nashville, but I don't know how much stock to put into that.

 

[Ugene Magic]

Has K-mart closed yet?

 

[66-30-33]

I've seen someone say SJ specifically wants Fabbro from Nashville, but I don't know how much stock to put into that.

If they wanted him they should just trade for him. Probably not worth a whole lot.

 

[Ulf5]

...how the hell that quote happen lol

 

[Ginormousthumbs]

If rumors are true of Nashville getting Pesce and whoever else and Canes using those assets they get back for EK, probably. Those damn jerks!

Boooooo
Always the bridesmaid

 

[AuroraBorealis]

Dubas tracker:
2 trades
15 signings

 

[66-30-33]

Boooooo

Canes will just be f***ing up their team. D is the last thing they need, they need a Karlsson that's a forward.