GDT: Free Agency Day - 7/13 @ 12pm EST

[PuckLuck3043]

The reason is their contracts are ridiculous , the whole reason we traded mcdonagh in the first place because we weren't comfortable with his price. The salary cap is the best thing that ever happened to this franchise with Sather around. None of these kids would be getting time, we'd have a bunch of dinosaurs roaming the rink. The only reason Tampa was able to resign Mcdonagh was that they knew they'd do this part way through the deal, otherwise he'd have signed somewhere his cap hit would fit long term, same with Pacioretty. If we wanna complain, lets complain about Arizona sucking money from the league and hampering the salary cap.

Why are people really worried about Motte, he was a nice add for us but at 2 mill he's easily replaceable as a 4th liner.

The hard salary cap is an absolute joke and the flat hard cap is an even bigger joke. The NHL is an archaic league and the salary cap is in place because cheap shit franchises like Arizona and Ottawa can't compete. f*** 'em. Do we really need a cheap shit poorly run franchise in Arizona? No other league has a hard cap where you can't sign your own players or some sort of flexibility.

 

[Clark Kellogg]

Posted on the Development Camp thread. Will Cuylle, Adam Trivigno, Adam Sykora and Jed Ortmeyer Media Availability.

 

[SA16]

The hard salary cap is an absolute joke and the flat hard cap is an even bigger joke. The NHL is an archaic league and the salary cap is in place because cheap shit franchises like Arizona and Ottawa can't compete. f*** 'em. Do we really need a cheap shit poorly run franchise in Arizona? No other league has a hard cap where you can't sign your own players or some sort of flexibility.

The bigger joke is that 14 of the GMs are former NHL players, many of the remaining 18 were career AHLers/minor league players, and we expect these people to be capable of running multi million dollar businesses.

 

[Off Sides]

I don't know, hopefully no one takes him, yet the goalie market is sparse. Any team even looking for a back-up right now who played in like 10 or more games last year has the choice of basically Holtby or Hammond out of the remaining UFAs.

 

[NJRangers35]

I know I know, motte is a 4th liner who we can find a comparable player at the deadline, but I liked motte a lot. He is fast and kills penalties. It infuriates me that they are choosing reaves over him. There was no reason to extend him. They could easily dump him to a team looking for a locker room guy. They could even buy him out and save over $1m. Motte should be on this team. A 4th line of Hunt-Goodrow-Motte would be a hell of a 4th line.

 

[SA16]

I don't know, hopefully no one takes him, yet the goalie market is sparse. Any team even looking for a back-up right now who played in like 10 or more games last year has the choice of basically Holtby or Hammond out of the remaining UFAs.

Holtby is out for the year and may retire

 

[Thirty One]

I don't know, hopefully no one takes him, yet the goalie market is sparse. Any team even looking for a back-up right now who played in like 10 or more games last year has the choice of basically Holtby or Hammond out of the remaining UFAs.

Is there any team looking for a backup right now? San Jose also has three goalies.

 

[McRanger92]

I think the Rangers can get Kane at the deadline for better than people think. Kravtsov, 2023 2nd, 2024 1st, something like that. And I think they can resign Kane if he takes a Malkin type deal and Chytil or Kakko is moved. I’m not advocating for it (wouldn’t do it) but I could see it as a path the organization takes.

I think Kane’s plan is force a trade to play with the Breadman for a Cup run, then sign with hometown Buffalo as they are ready to compete.

I mean we have a plethora of options for the 4th line and 3rd pair. Top9 and top4 are set.

4th line - Goodrow, Cuylle/Blais, Hunt, Reaves, Brodz, Carpenter, Rydahl, Gauthier

3rd pair - Schenider, Jones, Robertson, Lundkvist

when we have this many players... it's easier for our coach to make the wrong choice lol

Our top 9 FWD & top 5 D are set. We have lots of options for the 4th line & 6/7 D. Im excited to watch the training camp battles

 

[McRanger92]

They can afford Kakko & Motte if the feel Reaves is expendable. On the ice he probably is, but I don’t think they want to ax a respected veteran

 

[Kovalev27]

Something feels up doesn’t it? Kakko shouldn’t really be a difficult deal at this point and motte is the type of guy that coming off that playoff should be snatched up quickly. Going past today unsigned? Seems odd.

I don’t know you still have Kravtsov too who we don’t know if he really wants to be here. Hunt is hunt more than expendable. They may be trying something still to make things work.

Flat hard cap with guaranteed contracts is maybe the dumbest thing in any sports league ever

 

[RangerGuru]

The anti-salary cap takes here are funny. This is one of the reasons that make the NHL way more fun and entertaining than other sports.

It allows for parity, way more strategy, and creativity in constructing a roster, instead of having situations like the Dodgers and Yankees buying talent with deep pockets. Sure, it would give the Rangers an advantage which is nice, but overall is good for the NHL.

I’m all for non-fully guaranteed contracts with incentives for players, but a hard salary cap is excellent.

 

[Thirty One]

The anti-salary cap takes here are funny. This is one of the reasons that make the NHL way more fun and entertaining than other sports.

It allows for parity, way more strategy, and creativity in constructing a roster, instead of having situations like the Dodgers and Yankees buying talent with deep pockets. Sure, it would give the Rangers an advantage which is nice, but overall is good for the NHL.

I’m all for non-fully guaranteed contracts with incentives for players, but a hard salary cap is excellent.

I'm old enough to remember when there wasn't a salary cap. The common sentiment was not having one was the dumbest thing ever.

Now they have a salary cap. It's the dumbest thing ever.

My main takeaway is that people are miserable f***s..

 

[Number 9]

The anti-salary cap takes here are funny. This is one of the reasons that make the NHL way more fun and entertaining than other sports.

It allows for parity, way more strategy, and creativity in constructing a roster, instead of having situations like the Dodgers and Yankees buying talent with deep pockets. Sure, it would give the Rangers an advantage which is nice, but overall is good for the NHL.

I’m all for non-fully guaranteed contracts with incentives for players, but a hard salary cap is excellent.

Lay off the Yankees, this "buying talent" speech is tired and old and not nearly as bad as other teams fans say.

 

[NJRangers35]

I'm old enough to remember when there wasn't a salary cap. The common sentiment was not having one was the dumbest thing ever.

Now they have a salary cap. It's the dumbest thing ever.

My main takeaway is that people are miserable f***s..

The issue isn’t a salary cap. The issue is the flat cap and it not increasing. It’s absolutely ridiculous.

 

[Thirty One]

The issue isn’t a salary cap. The issue is the flat cap and it not increasing. It’s absolutely ridiculous.

Yeah, I also think it would have been better if there wasn't a global pandemic.

 

[Circus86]

I'm old enough to remember when there wasn't a salary cap. The common sentiment was not having one was the dumbest thing ever.

Now they have a salary cap. It's the dumbest thing ever.

My main takeaway is that people are miserable f***s..

And it's not like we were constantly winning cups pre salary cup. Neither did Toronto. What teams got success out of no cap, maybe Detroit?

 

[NJRangers35]

Yeah, I also think it would have been better if there wasn't a global pandemic.

I agree but still pretty ridiculous. Didn’t seem to impact the nfl or nba too much and their cap. Baseball contracts without a cap are still as big as ever.

 

[Levitate]

Something feels up doesn’t it? Kakko shouldn’t really be a difficult deal at this point and motte is the type of guy that coming off that playoff should be snatched up quickly. Going past today unsigned? Seems odd.

I don’t know you still have Kravtsov too who we don’t know if he really wants to be here. Hunt is hunt more than expendable. They may be trying something still to make things work.

Flat hard cap with guaranteed contracts is maybe the dumbest thing in any sports league ever

I don't think they're trying to deal Kakko, or are you saying it seems like getting him a new deal has been difficult? There was literally an article yesterday with his agent saying "no problems, just how these things go, it's getting done"

no one is snatching up motte because he's a 4th liner who apparently wants $2 mill per or something and that's dumb money to spend on a 4th liner no matter how appealing they are.

They have Kravtsov because a decent deal for him wasn't there and he's a possibility to play next season

 

[Thirty One]

I agree but still pretty ridiculous. Didn’t seem to impact the nfl or nba too much and their cap. Baseball contracts without a cap are still as big as ever.

Hockey salaries are also bigger than ever. Baseball salaries are basically where they were in 2016.

 

[UAGoalieGuy]

Only change I'd make is to have one homegrown (either drafted or played their first NHL game with a team, an example would be Fox) exception to the cap. Likely not feasible but would be cool. Would need some rules governing it like would it be an annual declaration or a commitment for a length of a contract.

 

[NJRangers35]

Hockey salaries are also bigger than ever. Baseball salaries are basically where they were in 2016.

Salaries are going up, but cap is staying the same. That’s an issue. Teams are being penalized for drafting and developing good players.

We are seeing a perfect example with kadri, where the cap is screwing the player. No one has the cap room to bring him in. He’s going to have to take less than his value because of the flat cap. Baseball has no hard cap. There are 30 teams who can bid for the services of any player.

 

[HatTrick Swayze]

The flat cap is not due to the pandemic.

The flat cap is due to the decision to treat employee wages paid during the pandemic as debt and not an expense.

Can't think of another example of this happening in any industry due to the pandemic.

It, of course, makes sense RE the owners' pockets but it is a completely moronic decision as it relates to...hockey.

The league should have paid the players, took out a loan to cover it at historically low interest rates, and treated the pandemic as the act of God it was.

Instead per usual players and fans take the short end of the stick.

Amateur hour.

 

[JohnC]

I agree but still pretty ridiculous. Didn’t seem to impact the nfl or nba too much and their cap. Baseball contracts without a cap are still as big as ever.

Is this not because of the reality that hockey’s never been as popular of a sport as football or basketball in the states? It affects the entire calculus of the different leagues’ monetary situation.

The last thing anyone should do is listen to basket cases on this website ranting about economics.

 

[Hire Sather]

The Reaves extension was so weird.

Couldn't wait to give him $1.75M.

 

[Thirty One]

The flat cap is not due to the pandemic.

The flat cap is due to the decision to treat employee wages paid during the pandemic as debt and not an expense.

Can't think of another example of this happening in any industry due to the pandemic.

It, of course, makes sense RE the owners' pockets but it is a completely moronic decision as it relates to...hockey.

The league should have paid the players, took out a loan to cover it at historically low interest rates, and treated the pandemic as the act of God it was.

Instead per usual players and fans take the short end of the stick.

Amateur hour.

You make it sound like the league paid the players for the pandemic years in IOUs. They paid them. They just aren't increasing the cap because the cap is tied to revenue, of which there was little.