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Lays said:
Salary cap sucks. It seems like no one wants to ever trade for a player with a contract longer than 2-3 years.

There’s no reason Max Pacioretty+Dylan Coghlan should return future considerations. Pacioretty is a PPG winger and Coghlan is a young potential top 4 RHD. Pacioretty doesn’t even have a bad contract. He has 1 year remaining at 7 million

McDonagh returned P. Myers and some other non-asset

Actually ridiculous that no one wanted to take on players of McDonagh and Pacioretty’s caliber. Yet Brandon Hagel returned 2 1st round picks because he was on his ELC
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The reason is their contracts are ridiculous , the whole reason we traded mcdonagh in the first place because we weren't comfortable with his price. The salary cap is the best thing that ever happened to this franchise with Sather around. None of these kids would be getting time, we'd have a bunch of dinosaurs roaming the rink. The only reason Tampa was able to resign Mcdonagh was that they knew they'd do this part way through the deal, otherwise he'd have signed somewhere his cap hit would fit long term, same with Pacioretty. If we wanna complain, lets complain about Arizona sucking money from the league and hampering the salary cap.

Why are people really worried about Motte, he was a nice add for us but at 2 mill he's easily replaceable as a 4th liner.
 
KreiderBomb said:
The reason is their contracts are ridiculous , the whole reason we traded mcdonagh in the first place because we weren't comfortable with his price. The salary cap is the best thing that ever happened to this franchise with Sather around. None of these kids would be getting time, we'd have a bunch of dinosaurs roaming the rink. The only reason Tampa was able to resign Mcdonagh was that they knew they'd do this part way through the deal, otherwise he'd have signed somewhere his cap hit would fit long term, same with Pacioretty. If we wanna complain, lets complain about Arizona sucking money from the league and hampering the salary cap.

Why are people really worried about Motte, he was a nice add for us but at 2 mill he's easily replaceable as a 4th liner.
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Almost spat out my coffee.

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It comes down to Ryan Reaves or Tyler Motte? The Rangers can't have both players on the roster. They don't have enough cap space. The backup goalie is $1.5M and not $1M or less. The Rangers had enough for a center in the mid $5M+ range, pay Kakko, acquire a back-up and fill out the roster with cheap players.

The Rangers gave Reaves a one-year extension last summer. $1.75M. It will probably cost more to re-sign Motte unless he has no market. The Rangers don't have much space with Reaves at $1.75M and they would have less with Motte at a higher number.
 
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RangerBoy said:
It comes down to Ryan Reaves or Tyler Motte? The Rangers can't have both players on the roster. They don't have enough cap space. The backup goalie is $1.5M and not $1M or less. The Rangers had enough for a center in the mid $5M+ range, pay Kakko, acquire a back-up and fill out the roster with cheap players.

The Rangers gave Reaves a one-year extension last summer. $1.75M. It will probably cost more to re-sign Motte unless he has no market. The Rangers don't have much space with Reaves at $1.75M and they would have less with Motte at a higher number.
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This is why bottom six extensions/multi year deals especially for fourth lines is dumb. One year deals only. Can’t cut into the cap with those guys.
 
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RangerBoy said:
It comes down to Ryan Reaves or Tyler Motte? The Rangers can't have both players on the roster. They don't have enough cap space. The backup goalie is $1.5M and not $1M or less. The Rangers had enough for a center in the mid $5M+ range, pay Kakko, acquire a back-up and fill out the roster with cheap players.

The Rangers gave Reaves a one-year extension last summer. $1.75M. It will probably cost more to re-sign Motte unless he has no market. The Rangers don't have much space with Reaves at $1.75M and they would have less with Motte at a higher number.
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We don't have anyone to replace Reaves, we have options to replace Motte. Also, we can all debate about it but i think we all know Reaves is full filing his contract here.
 
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So after watching what Vegas did, trading Suzuki for Pacioretty, then subsequently having to go look for a center, and then having to trade Pacioretty for pennies to pay for the center, does anyone really think trading a Kakko for Kane makes any sense? It doesn't guarantee us a cup, i really hope we don't do something like this, i think we've added enough quality vets we should be able to fill in internally now
 
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I thought anything up to $6M in performance bonuses combined on the team for players on ELCs meant no penalty or adding this amount to next years cap? It is only the overage above 6M which is penalized and moved to next years cap? Or am I wrong?
 
BBKers said:
I thought anything up to $6M in performance bonuses for players on ELCs meant no penalty or adding this amount to next years cap? Or am I wrong?
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If they meet the bonuses, then they have to carry them on the cap (with any overages reducing next year's).

The issue we've had the past two seasons is total potential bonuses being over the cushion, even the the great majority of them would be unmet.
 
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BBKers said:
I thought anything up to $6M in performance bonuses combined on the team for players on ELCs meant no penalty or adding this amount to next years cap? It is only the overage above 6M which is penalized and moved to next years cap? Or am I wrong?
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There's 2 different things here.

First, there's the potential bonuses. Teams get a bonus cushion which is 7.5% of the cap. 7.5% of 82.5 is 6.1875 mil. If the total potential bonuses exceed that number, we have to account for the remainder under the cap. That effectively reduces our cap ceiling. We are not in danger of exceeding the bonus cushion.

Second is the amount of bonuses actually earned. This number is calculated at the end of the season and any unused (non-LTIR) cap space is used to pay those bonuses. If there isn't enough cap space to pay off the bonuses, the remainder rolls over to the following year. This could be a problem if Laf has a big year.
 
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will1066 said:
The LD position is one spot out of a nightly 20-spot system. Laf, Chytil and Kakko, while they are still "kids," I don't consider them new at this point, and they're going to have spots unless something cataclysmic happens. There might be an opportunity on the fourth line, but Carpenter is signed, Goodrow might shuttle in and out of that line, and Blais is returning and where is he gonna play? I can see Kravtsov not being a 100% shoe-in for a spot, but still, assume he's in there, pushing Blais out of the top 9. And yes, injuries will happen, so guys like Cullye and Othmann could get call-up opportunities during the season. But I get this feeling that guys like Gettinger and Brodzinski are on top of the call-up pecking order in the eyes of Gallant and Drury.
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The Cs seem obvious and yes Carprnter 4th line

The RW is Reaves or Hunt and 3 kids. Kravtsov is in as he would get picked up on waivers

I’d say Goodrow and Blais 3rd and 4th line LW
Top 2 obvious

Brodzinski and Rydahl backup C if a call up
Cuylee or Gettinger the wings

I imagine Gauthier is dealt or plucked off waivers
 
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Do they need a low cost option that can play LD/RD? If not they will need 8 Dmen, no?
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If the Rangers waive/trade Gauthier, Carpenter and Hunt, they can sign Motte @ $1.6m and fit it under the cap. This assumes Kaako gets $2.25m.

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I still don't understand the need to carry extra players on the roster, especially at the beginning of the season
 
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The bonuses also don't matter. Miller/Schneider probably won't get any. Lafreniere could and if it carries over to next year it's not a big deal. It's probably a good thing. It means he played well and that the team spent money to improve this year. The amount they are clearing in buyouts would cost more than any bonuses they have to pay next year.

NYR Viper said:
If the Rangers waive/trade Gauthier, Carpenter and Hunt, they can sign Motte @ $1.6m and fit it under the cap. This assumes Kaako gets $2.25m.

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I still don't understand the need to carry extra players on the roster, especially at the beginning of the season
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Well they are not going to waive/trade the guy they just signed yesterday.
 
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SA16 said:
Well they are not going to waive/trade the guy they just signed yesterday.
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Well they aren't going to waive him tomorrow, but I don't think it's impossible they waive him before the season starts. I don't think they will, but I don't think the guys who sign for 750K on the second day of free agency are untouchable.
 
Thirty One said:
Well they aren't going to waive him tomorrow, but I don't think it's impossible they waive him before the season starts. I don't think they will, but I don't think the guys who sign for 750K on the second day of free agency are untouchable.
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They could but they wanted him and Gallant has had him before. They're not going to force him off the roster before camp even starts so they can sign someone that they didn't even prioritize getting a deal done with. If Motte wants to come back he's going to have to sign cheaply.
 
Domingue will probably be waived.

I kind of wonder what they do for the AHL if he is plucked, I guess go with Garand, Lindbom only?
 
Off Sides said:
Domingue will probably be waived.

I kind of wonder what they do for the AHL if he is plucked, I guess go with Garand, Lindbom only?
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Unless someone has a serious injury to one of their goalies, I don't see him getting claimed. If there was a team that wanted him in the NHL, he would have signed with them.
 
Off Sides said:
Domingue will probably be waived.

I kind of wonder what they do for the AHL if he is plucked, I guess go with Garand, Lindbom only?
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You send him down with a large chunk of other players. Other teams usually do their waivers around the same time. I don't think he'd have many suitors for his services. If Kinkaid made it back down, so will Domingue.
 
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