Free Agency and Trade Thread - Playoff Edition

[rumman]

We’ll have no issues extending Muzzin past next season.

highly optimistic, what do you base this on?

 

[WTFMAN99]

We’ll have no issues extending Muzzin past next season.

Also need to evaluate long term if it makes sense for us to do it. Late 20's, lots of miles on his body and the style he plays. Plus our LHD below him features Dermott and Sandin that are going to be ready sooner rather then later.

I'm not saying I am opposed to keeping Muzzin around either, I love him. Just saying organizationally we have some strength at LD.

That is why I also asked on here a few days back what kind of RHD we could get in return for Dermott in a trade. All the equivalent ones are likely unavailable, I came up with Cernak, Carlo or Joker from Chicago.

Basically I think all options are on the table but we should consider parlaying some of that depth at LD towards fixing the RD.

 

[4thline]

Looking at the numbers, A Kadri for Faulk+ swap and Brown for futures with no other changes leaves us 15.1 million for Marner+Kapanen+Johnsson+13th forward.

Tight.

Unconventional idea would be to toss a conditional pick to Tampa for Stralman's rights, and if we can get him signed reasonably trade Kadri for pure futures at the draft

 

[TheMadHatTrick]

I think Kadri for Pesce might be a strong possibility in the off-season. We need to find a partner for Rielly with Hainsey gone and he fits perfectly into our salary structure. Kadri we'll have to replace with a free agent stopgap.

 

[Martin Skoula]

I think Kadri for Pesce might be a strong possibility in the off-season. We need to find a partner for Rielly with Hainsey gone and he fits perfectly into our salary structure. Kadri we'll have to replace with a free agent stopgap.

Nylander's shown enough at C at this point. I think Johnsson-Nylander-Kapanen would be the best 3rd line in the league, we just need to get Matthews a passer and a grinder to fill the gap. Maybe Bracco if he's ready on the RW, not sure about the LW.

 

[SeaOfBlue]

Nylander's shown enough at C at this point. I think Johnsson-Nylander-Kapanen would be the best 3rd line in the league, we just need to get Matthews a passer and a grinder to fill the gap. Maybe Bracco if he's ready on the RW, not sure about the LW.

Marleau, since he'll be around next year anyways.

If Bracco is not ready on the RW, Moore can be his RW. Then we can have a Marlie, UFA or Aaltonen/Korshkov play on the 4th line RW in Moore's place.

 

[SeaOfBlue]

I think Kadri for Pesce might be a strong possibility in the off-season. We need to find a partner for Rielly with Hainsey gone and he fits perfectly into our salary structure. Kadri we'll have to replace with a free agent stopgap.

I'd even trade Kadri for the Avs' 1st and a 2nd, as suggested on the main board. It would fix our cap problems and give us a mid-1st this year to add another really solid player.

If Zaitsev or Dermott (likely Dermott) are not suitable as Rielly's RD partner, then we could look at trading Zaitsev for someone like Tanev (although Tanev just had another season ending surgery so his value keeps going down, while Zaitsev's continues to go up) and letting him be Tanev's partner. Or we can look at trading pure futures for someone like Pesce after trading Zaitsev for futures himself. It's musical chairs, but to find someone who fits well with Rielly in a top pairing role. Either Zaitsev or Dermott would fit well with Muzzin on the 2nd pairing though.

 

[TheMadHatTrick]

I'd even trade Kadri for the Avs' 1st and a 2nd, as suggested on the main board. It would fix our cap problems and give us a mid-1st this year to add another really solid player.

If Zaitsev or Dermott (likely Dermott) are not suitable as Rielly's RD partner, then we could look at trading Zaitsev for someone like Tanev (although Tanev just had another season ending surgery so his value keeps going down, while Zaitsev's continues to go up) and letting him be Tanev's partner. Or we can look at trading pure futures for someone like Pesce after trading Zaitsev for futures himself. It's musical chairs, but to find someone who fits well with Rielly in a top pairing role. Either Zaitsev or Dermott would fit well with Muzzin on the 2nd pairing though.

Maybe for their first and a prospect, but this isn't a very strong draft so im not that interested in the 2nd. I wonder if they would move EJ + for Kadri, the plus is because of the difference in age and contract.

 

[SeaOfBlue]

Maybe for their first and a prospect, but this isn't a very strong draft so im not that interested in the 2nd. I wonder if they would move EJ + for Kadri, the plus is because of the difference in age and contract.

The 2nd would be in a future draft I would think. 2020/2021. If the Leafs pick up the 1st from the Avs, then that's all I would want from this draft. I also have the Leafs trading Joshua for a pick, which may be to replace the 6th we lost in this year's draft, but it may also just be a late rounder in a future draft like they did with Vesey.

No thanks on Johnson though. He's getting older with a long, and expensive, contract. He's also had some injuries in the past, so he may even go down hill even faster than expected. He's solid, but I don't think he's 1.5 mill better than Zaitsev, and people already think Zaitsev is overpaid at 4.5 mill.

EDIT: Maybe if it was Kadri + Zaitsev for Johnson, 1st, 2nd or something of that nature... Maybe Dubas would be willing to do it.

 

[LeafSteel]

some posters here actually think Nylander's better than Pasta, how the heck is one suppose to reply to such nonsense?

You don’t. You just point and giggle.....

 

[New Liskeard]

Nylander's shown enough at C at this point. I think Johnsson-Nylander-Kapanen would be the best 3rd line in the league, we just need to get Matthews a passer and a grinder to fill the gap. Maybe Bracco if he's ready on the RW, not sure about the LW.

A Johnsson/Nylander/Kapanen line would give up goals at an unprecedented rate and give Babcock a stroke. Nylander hasnt proven he can play the center ice position, especially not 7 million dollars worth per year play up the middle.

 

[aingefan]

A Johnsson/Nylander/Kapanen line would give up goals at an unprecedented rate and give Babcock a stroke. Nylander hasnt proven he can play the center ice position, especially not 7 million dollars worth per year play up the middle.

This sounds like hyperbole.
I counter yours with mine: that line would be electric, and I’ve hoped for it since seeing Willie and Kap together in the playoffs a few years back.

 

[TML Dynasty]

Nylander's shown enough at C at this point. I think Johnsson-Nylander-Kapanen would be the best 3rd line in the league, we just need to get Matthews a passer and a grinder to fill the gap. Maybe Bracco if he's ready on the RW, not sure about the LW.

Moore and Bracco!

 

[Fogelhund]

I think Kadri for Pesce might be a strong possibility in the off-season. We need to find a partner for Rielly with Hainsey gone and he fits perfectly into our salary structure. Kadri we'll have to replace with a free agent stopgap.

Except that I just don't see Carolina moving Pesce anymore.

 

[4thline]

I'd even trade Kadri for the Avs' 1st and a 2nd, as suggested on the main board. It would fix our cap problems and give us a mid-1st this year to add another really solid player.

That's light IMO. During the season there was decent fan traction on Faulk+Wallmark+2nd for Kadri. If we dropped Wallmark in favour of moving Willy to C that's Faulk+ Car 1st/ Faulk + Buff 2nd + prospect territory, in either case much better value than 1st+ 2nd

 

[Legion34]

highly optimistic, what do you base this on?

Money wise? We will be fine.... he’s 30. His contract will be what? 5-6.5?

The only pinch point is this year. IF marleau stays

 

[Al14]

I'd even trade Kadri for the Avs' 1st and a 2nd, as suggested on the main board. It would fix our cap problems and give us a mid-1st this year to add another really solid player.

If Zaitsev or Dermott (likely Dermott) are not suitable as Rielly's RD partner, then we could look at trading Zaitsev for someone like Tanev (although Tanev just had another season ending surgery so his value keeps going down, while Zaitsev's continues to go up) and letting him be Tanev's partner. Or we can look at trading pure futures for someone like Pesce after trading Zaitsev for futures himself. It's musical chairs, but to find someone who fits well with Rielly in a top pairing role. Either Zaitsev or Dermott would fit well with Muzzin on the 2nd pairing though.

Another Tanev suggestion! HOW MANY TIMES, JUST NO!

Just let Vancouver, or some other sucker team, pay his medical bills. He's never healthy enough to make a consistent impact IMHO.

 

[The Podium]

Apparently Oliwer Kaski is close to signing an NHL deal

6'3" RHD, top 10 scorer in Liiga as a D

 

[HeroNtF]

Players that are proving they can't get it done in the playoffs.

Freddie
Johnson
Kappy - love his game but he is a grt trade chip
Kadri - a tough bone head - selfish player
Gardner - way to soft
Marleau

Dubassssssss should realize we need some grit and size in our lineup



Nylander - give him another yr - hope he really gets involved next yr.

First post I read when checking the forum out... Well this is awkward.

 

[rumman]

Money wise? We will be fine.... he’s 30. His contract will be what? 5-6.5?

The only pinch point is this year. IF marleau stays

most likely his last contract, he'll go to the highest bidder offering the most term.

 

[sxvnert]

Rielly Stralman
Muzzin Zaitsev
Rosen Dermott

Zaitsev as #4 is dependent on how he plays this series.

 

[rumman]

Rielly Stralman
Muzzin Zaitsev
Rosen Dermott

Zaitsev as #4 is dependent on how he plays this series.

pass on keeping Zaitev, it's a winfall he's played better thus far in the playoffs, no better time to move him than at the draft. If this could be done it would be a huge cap reliever and allow for acquiring a better RHD.

 

[TheMadHatTrick]

pass on keeping Zaitev, it's a winfall he's played better thus far in the playoffs, no better time to move him than at the draft. I this could be done it would be a huge cap reliever and allow for acquiring a better RHD.

Have to wait one more year to ship him off to Seattle with a pick or prospect attached. Marleau and Zaitsev were the stupidest deals Lammy ever signed here.

 

[SeaOfBlue]

Have to wait one more year to ship him off to Seattle with a pick or prospect attached. Marleau and Zaitsev were the stupidest deals Lammy ever signed here.

If the Leafs trade Zaitsev, they are not adding assets to dump them. The other team is going to need to give us something decent.

Also need to figure out how to replace him. Dubas may decide to keep him for next year.

 

[TheMadHatTrick]

If the Leafs trade Zaitsev, they are not adding assets to dump them. The other team is going to need to give us something decent.

Also need to figure out how to replace him. Dubas may decide to keep him for next year.

I doubt a team is giving up real assets for Zaitsev. He's a bottom pairing dman make 4.5M for like 5 more years.