Free Agency and Trade Thread - Playoff Edition

[WTFMAN99]

Kapanen+ for Pesce

Send Marleau to Robidas island or Arizona

Sign Ferland

Trade Brown for kassian at 50%

Ferland - Matthews - Nylander
Johnson - Tavares - Marner
Moore - Kadri - Hyman
Marchment - Gauthier - Kassian

Rielly - Pesce
Muzzin - Zaitsev
Dermott - Petrovic

Andersen

Brown for Kassian straight up is something I am not even mad at.

Might want to upgrade a bit at 4C or even get something better at 4th line LW and make Marchment an extra.

 

[Jozay]

We dont need 2nd round picks for Kap. Those picks wont help the team for 3+ years We need a dman.

 

[Duffman955]

Brown for Kassian straight up is something I am not even mad at.

Might want to upgrade a bit at 4C or even get something better at 4th line LW and make Marchment an extra.

I'm sure one of the Marlies can make the jump. Marchment looks like he would be a perfect fit for the 4th line.

I'm a fan of young guys filling some depth spots where they can develop without much scrutiny

 

[Warden of the North]

McKenzie says Philly is most likely looking for a 2nd line C to shelter Patrick and let him develop.

I think theres a fit there for Kadri. They have pretty good currency in young dmen

 

[jaric1862]

DeMelo on a cup contender is probably on a 3rd pairing. No position really improved and you have a random rookie as our #6D that probaby isn't qualified to be in the NHL right away.

Bracco is an elite passer that is going to pass to the Goat that won't convert on anything.

I wouldn't be expecting massive upgrades at every position considering the cap situation next year. Most of our improvements are going to have to come by the improvement of guys like Matthews, Marner, Nylander, Johnsson, Kapanen,etc. We are going to need guys who are making less than a million. Priskie is a really good prospect but if you don't like him then move Dermott up to play with Rielly and then put Demelo as the #6 with Rosen. Send Priskie down and bring up Borgman. Bracco will be getting PP time to show his passing, its not like we are going to be heavily leaning on him 5 v 5.

Im assuming you want to trade one of our better forwards (Nylander,Kapanen) for a D? (which i would be fine with)

 

[rumman]

McKenzie says Philly is most likely looking for a 2nd line C to shelter Patrick and let him develop.

I think theres a fit there for Kadri. They have pretty good currency in young dmen

Philipe Myers and a 1st?

 

[WTFMAN99]

I'm sure one of the Marlies can make the jump. Marchment looks like he would be a perfect fit for the 4th line.

I'm a fan of young guys filling some depth spots where they can develop without much scrutiny

Not opposed to it if the guy shows they're worth it. I would rather sign a vet though and let the winner get the ice time.

McKenzie says Philly is most likely looking for a 2nd line C to shelter Patrick and let him develop.

I think theres a fit there for Kadri. They have pretty good currency in young dmen

The *only* issue with the Flyers is handedness. Their RHD are Gudas and Myers. I don't think they want to move Myers and let's be honest, Gudas isn't worth Kadri.

I'd do Kadri for Frost and Gudas but I think Flyers would scream bloody murder lol.

I wouldn't be expecting massive upgrades at every position considering the cap situation next year. Most of our improvements are going to have to come by the improvement of guys like Matthews, Marner, Nylander, Johnsson, Kapanen,etc. We are going to need guys who are making less than a million. Priskie is a really good prospect but if you don't like him then move Dermott up to play with Rielly and then put Demelo as the #6 with Rosen. Send Priskie down and bring up Borgman. Bracco will be getting PP time to show his passing, its not like we are going to be heavily leaning on him 5 v 5.

Im assuming you want to trade one of our better forwards (Nylander,Kapanen) for a D? (which i would be fine with)

I'd trade an expensive forward, maybe 2. Look to bring in a different ingredient.

 

[aingefan]

I hope that if we land a Euro UFA, that it's Kaski, though I don't know the odds of that happening. Of course, nothing wrong with signing a bunch of guys either, except of course for the 50 contract limit.

I haven't heard much about what Kaski might be doing, or whom he might be talking to at this point.

His profile (big RHD) and TO’s needs seem a good enough match, and it’s a very good team still on the rise.

 

[SeaOfBlue]

McKenzie says Philly is most likely looking for a 2nd line C to shelter Patrick and let him develop.

I think theres a fit there for Kadri. They have pretty good currency in young dmen

They could possibly offer Sanheim, who plays RD, but I don't see them doing a deal involving Sanheim unless Zaitsev is added in there as well to replace him (since Philly would only have Gudas, MacDonald and Myers as NHL ready RD). Sanheim is a pending RFA, and he's probably going to want something in the 5 mill range over 7 years, since that is close to what Theodore got. That's probably reasonable.

What about something like Kadri and Zaitsev for Sanheim and Rubtsov? If Philly is high on Rubtsov, there are alternative B-level prospects they could offer, but he was injured for most of this year and has not exactly progressed like a typical 1st rounder. At best I think he becomes a solid 2C or high end 3C (which is perfect for the Leafs) and he's not going to be NHL ready for at least another couple of years, so I think he's fair value. We can even throw in Joshua for a 6th this year (to replace the one we lost) so they have a guy who can immediately replace Rubtsov in the AHL next year, but that is not really necessary.

Sanheim becomes Rielly's partner, while Dermott can replace Zaitsev as Muzzin's partner. Dermott will need to learn how to play RD, but he's already doing it now (with Gardiner no less) and he'll have an entire summer to further his skill over there. He has played a bit of RD before as well, so he's not entirely new to it.

 

[Warden of the North]

We dont need 2nd round picks for Kap. Those picks wont help the team for 3+ years We need a dman.

We do need Capspace.

Also, those picks could be used as currency.

 

[Jozay]

We do need Capspace.

Also, those picks could be used as currency.

Theres a couple of other guys who can go for cap reasons. A guy like Kapanen should be used to re-align cap space to the defense, not clear it IMO.

 

[aingefan]

Theres a couple of other guys who can go for cap reasons. A guy like Kapanen should be used to re-align cap space to the defense, not clear it IMO.

Kap is playing with good jam in these playoffs, if not great hands. I’d rather that he stick around, personally.
But, that said, there’s already so much money tied up front, that it wouldn’t surprise me to see Kadri and one of AJ or Kap shipped off for ELC types, with Brown moved for cap savings.

 

[Dragao6]

McKenzie says Philly is most likely looking for a 2nd line C to shelter Patrick and let him develop.

I think theres a fit there for Kadri. They have pretty good currency in young dmen

So your plan is for the leafs to get even softer with this trade?

 

[SeaOfBlue]

So your plan is for the leafs to get even softer with this trade?

There was literally no indication of what Kadri would return.

Plus it is not like Kadri is tough. He's more just plain reckless.

 

[Dragao6]

There was literally no indication of what Kadri would return.

Plus it is not like Kadri is tough. He's more just plain reckless.

Ok but hes the only one that literally gives it his all no matter the situation, puts his neck out for others even when its reckless. I truly agree with commentators on TV that it makes it harder on him since none else on this team steps up

 

[Rielly4]

what about some type of trade with Anaheim? We could solve 2 birds with 1 stone.

Ritchie + Manson for
Zaitsev + AJ + Liljegren

As much as i like Liljegren i think he will always be a very risky defenseman..Not sure if thats what we need in the top 4. Im a lot more keen on Sandin. If you wanted to you could probably swap Lilj with Kapanen.

 

[Rielly4]

Hyman-Tavares-Marner
Marchment/Ritchie-Matthews-Nylander
Moore-Kadri-Kapanen
Marchment/Ritchie-Brooks-Bracco

Rielly-Manson
Muzzin-Dermott
Sandin/Rosen-Oz

Marleau healthy scratch cause he wont waive ntc

 

[LeafsOHLRangers98]

what about some type of trade with Anaheim? We could solve 2 birds with 1 stone.

Ritchie + Manson for
Zaitsev + AJ + Liljegren

As much as i like Liljegren i think he will always be a very risky defenseman..Not sure if thats what we need in the top 4. Im a lot more keen on Sandin. If you wanted to you could probably swap Lilj with Kapanen.

I don't move Liljegren, not yet, even for Manson. The kid had one of the best seasons ever for an 18 year old in the AHL (Behind only Sandin actually) and this year is playing on the top pair, top PK and on one of the PP units as a 19 year old.

He'll impact this team way longer and cheaper than either of those two guys. 3 years of his ELC will be key for keeping this team competitive when the cap gets tight here, hopefully he can push Dermott for a top 4 spot as early as next year.

Ritchie also isn't very good.

 

[Rielly4]

I don't move Liljegren, not yet, even for Manson. The kid had one of the best seasons ever for an 18 year old in the AHL (Behind only Sandin actually) and this year is playing on the top pair, top PK and on one of the PP units as a 19 year old.

He'll impact this team way longer and cheaper than either of those two guys. 3 years of his ELC will be key for keeping this team competitive when the cap gets tight here, hopefully he can push Dermott for a top 4 spot as early as next year.

Ritchie also isn't very good.

This is fair. I think Liljegren will be good but for him to become what we need he will have to cut out his risky style and become a lot stronger/better defensively. If he can do that then i absolutely agree he will be very valuable. I hope he can.

I personally dont think he will ever be as good as Dermott but thats just my opinion.

EDIT: He could become as good as Dermott is now, i just meant that he will never surpass Dermott IMO.

 

[LeafsOHLRangers98]

This is fair. I think Liljegren will be good but for him to become what we need he will have to cut out his risky style and become a lot stronger/better defensively. If he can do that then i absolutely agree he will be very valuable. I hope he can.

I personally dont think he will ever be as good as Dermott but thats just my opinion.

EDIT: He could become as good as Dermott is now, i just meant that he will never surpass Dermott IMO.

Actually he's been better defensively than he has offensively. He's been a really good all round player for the Marlies. Dominates the possession game and moves the puck well. young players make mistakes obviously but I think he's been great for the most part. A bit rough after the high ankle sprain but really good lately.

He has a much higher ceiling than Dermott as well. Dermott came into the AHL as a 20 year old and played extremely well but Liljegren is basically following the same develop model and is two years ahead of Dermott in that regard. Liljegren is breaking records and handling a top pair role as a teenager in the same league. If he's with the Marlies next year it'll be easier to compare him and Dermott at the same ages.

Not a knock on Dermott or anything but I really think our top 4 in two years could end up being some combination of Rielly,Liljegren,Sandin as an amazing trio and then depending on what we do Dermott could slide into that 4 spot.

 

[Warden of the North]

Ok but hes the only one that literally gives it his all no matter the situation, puts his neck out for others even when its reckless. I truly agree with commentators on TV that it makes it harder on him since none else on this team steps up

2 years in a row hes been suspended in the playoffs. Useless. Literally doing nothing for us.

 

[Fogelhund]

what about some type of trade with Anaheim? We could solve 2 birds with 1 stone.

Ritchie + Manson for
Zaitsev + AJ + Liljegren

As much as i like Liljegren i think he will always be a very risky defenseman..Not sure if thats what we need in the top 4. Im a lot more keen on Sandin. If you wanted to you could probably swap Lilj with Kapanen.

Anaheim is in no position to move a RHD, after they've moved Montour already.

 

[Dragao6]

2 years in a row hes been suspended in the playoffs. Useless. Literally doing nothing for us.

Yes I get it but would be very soft team without him....again stupid acts but 2 years in a row that hes also THE ONLY ONE defending the team and doing anything physical to counter this rival Goone Bruins team.

 

[Gallagbi]

Yes I get it but would be very soft team without him....again stupid acts but 2 years in a row that hes also THE ONLY ONE defending the team and doing anything physical to counter this rival Goone Bruins team.

Doesn't counter act his stupidity. It's a clear loss the last two years

 

[Warden of the North]

Yes I get it but would be very soft team without him....again stupid acts but 2 years in a row that hes also THE ONLY ONE defending the team and doing anything physical to counter this rival Goone Bruins team.

Were outhitting the Bruins FYI. Physicality isnt an issue. Youre using a talking point from a month ago which has been rendered totally invalid over the past week.