Free Agency and Trade Thread - Playoff Edition

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Dragao6

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Were outhitting the Bruins FYI. Physicality isnt an issue. Youre using a talking point from a month ago which has been rendered totally invalid over the past week.

Hahaha we can also shoot from center ice and outshoot Boston if ur a stats person.
Bruins hits Intimidate the leafs team, leafs hits just randomly happen just to say we hit too
 

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Kassian is awful. Numbers inflated because he spent some time with Connor and Leon. Brown has more value.

I’d rather just bring back Ennis then Hathaway.

26% - Leon, McDavid
17.2% - Brodziak, Lucic
11.9% - Brodziak, Khaira
6.7% - McDavid and RNH

The % only gets smaller from there but at least 29% of the time he was with absolute plugs. (These numbers are per Frozen tools)

Hathaway doesn't produce much less than Ennis and brings some physicality. I hate to overstate things but the finesse/skill your way to the Cup thing seems to be dying.

NYI beat PIT
CBJ beat TBL

Boston hardly has any damn depth beyond the top line and for all our skill, we're life and death vs them right now. Plus the size and will of these bigger guys in the bottom 6 seems more effective in the playoffs.

Even strength Hathaway has 49.5% CF and 51.2% DZone starts

Even strength Ennis has 46.6% CF and 65(!!!) DZone starts

I wouldn't object to bringing Ennis back at all if the price was right, I had 1.25M for McGinn in that Capfriendly lineup. If Ennis would take 1-1.25M on a 1 year deal to come back, I am okay with that.

If we need to overpay for McQuaid, then don't get McQuaid. He's slow and not very good. He's not even playing for Columbus right now, so he's been relegated to a 7D role on any kind of good team. By no means is he worth any more than Polak, and we wanted Polak out for a long time.

Petan is cheap and will be a depth forward. I'd rather save the 500k and give Petan a shot, especially since McGinn is coming off of a huge injury and was not overly effective before that.

Gauthier would not be any slower than the other guys on that 4th line... His speed is fine (at the very least he's not "slow AF"), and Kruger has been awful for a long time. I'd be surprised if he gets an NHL job next year.

Hathaway is slow (like slower than Gauthier slow) and an easily replaceable player. There are probably 5 other guys just like him in FA alone, and all of them are going to be lucky to be given great opportunities. I know it's picky, but we need all of the cap space we can get right now.

The Kadri and Zaitsev trade seriously hamstrings us. We give up the two best players and only get a decent 3C and B prospect in return. We can get more out of Kadri alone, never mind Zaitsev.

There are ways to add some toughness without giving guys like McQuaid full time jobs, or paying Kassian 2 mill and Brown to be on our 4th line. Besides, our team toughness is not really hurting us right now, and we are going up against one of the toughest teams in the league. TBH, I wouldn't be shocked if the Leafs just add someone like Troy Brouwer for cheap to replace Brown on the 4th line and say that is sufficient toughness.

He's not playing because he's not healthy. McQuaid also does things that Polak doesn't.

Petan is pretty much garbage and not an NHL player, McGinn is at least that.

Kruger was good this year, nearly 50% CF at even strength despite 80% D Zone starts.

Brouwer is a guy that isn't an NHL player anymore. I would love to see your set up on CapFriendly though :)
 

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Except not really.

The Leafs are 1-1 in both games that they've won and lost with/without Kadri in this series.

I'm not opposed to trading him if it's improves the team .. Nylander has looked good at centre in his place

If you say so...were allowed to politely disagree right?
 

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Did the Armchair thing again

83M Cap

Re-sign
Marner 8 years at 11M
Kapanen 2 years at 2.85M
Hutchinson 1 year at 875k

Trade
Kadri and Zaitsev for Faksa and rights to Eriksson
Brown and Sparks for Kassian and a 2020 6th
Marleau and a 4th 2020 to Ottawa (Marleau retires)
Johnsson for Ritchie

Sign
Hathaway 3 years at 1.1M
McGinn 1 year at 1.25M
Kruger 1 year at 950k
Stralman 2 years at 3.75M
McQuaid 1 year at 2.5M

Hyman-Tavares-Marner
Ritchie-Matthews-Nylander
Moore-Faksa-Kapanen
Hathaway-Kruger-Kassian
McGinn-Gauthier

Rielly-Stralman
Muzzin-Dermott
Sandin-McQuaid
Rosen

Andersen
Hutchinson

Cap space 2.041M

Disclaimer: I probably overpaid or took less back in trades then I should have but kept it simple.

I don't think I improved the defense as much as I would have liked.
The downgrade from Kadri to Faksa is way too much, I get dumping Zaitsev but that's not a trade I'd even consider.

Why does everyone want Kassian? He's a plug who was on waivers at one point. Take picks for Brown, we don't need any more depth forwards when we have Bracco and Marchment almost ready, and Petan and Ennis not even cracking our line-up except for injury/suspensions.

Johnsson for Ritchie is an easy NO for me too.

Adding a bunch of big guys who don't skate well, no thanks.
 
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The only one defending the team by not playing? Interesting.

His suspension this year had nothing to do with the team. It was a selfish revenge thing on Debrusk for the hit Debrusk did on Kadri earlier in the game.

We were down 2, with 7 minutes left, and a ton of momentum, and Kadri did that crap
I'd like to see you play on a team that is constantly being hammered with dirty hits, having the refs do nothing to counter, have your teammates just watch your team getting physically pushed around and look around and realize none else is doing nothing as a push back.

That game 2 was embarrassing in terms of what the refs let go but u saw every leaf player try their hardest to not go close to Bruins players due to fear of getting crushed. Kadri action was aweful, agree with commentators just drop the gloves and fight the guy but I can understand his frustration.
 

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Faksa is a 3rd line centre, not my fault you don't watch other teams :)

You've already shown you don't know who Hathaway, Kassian and Kruger are lol.

P.S. Adam McQuaid has not been a healthy scratch in the playoffs. Missing since the cheap shot elbow to the back of his head with suspect concussion symptoms.

Won't get a 2nd for Brown.

I think he was referring to Johnsson for Ritchie.

Did not know McQuaid was injured, but still, that makes him a number 6 on Columbus... Not exactly something worth going after heavily.

I think you are underselling Brown as well... He could get a 2nd in a trade, and in fact, that is what I'd want from EDM in a trade.
 

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I think he was referring to Johnsson for Ritchie.

Did not know McQuaid was injured, but still, that makes him a number 6 on Columbus... Not exactly something worth going after heavily.

I think you are underselling Brown as well... He could get a 2nd in a trade, and in fact, that is what I'd want from EDM in a trade.

He hasn't done anything to merit returning a 2nd.
 

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The downgrade from Kadri to Faksa is way too much, I get dumping Zaitsev but that's not a trade I'd even consider.

Why does everyone want Kassian? He's a plug who was on waivers at one point. Take picks for Brown, we don't need any more depth forwards when we have Bracco and Marchment almost ready, and Petan and Ennis not even cracking our line-up except for injury/suspensions.

Johnsson for Ritchie is an easy NO for me too.

Adding a bunch of big guys who don't skate well, no thanks.

Downgrade is being overstated. 30 pts in 81GP for Faksa vs 44 in 73GP for Kadri. Faksa pks and got the match up role on Dallas and less PP time than Kadri.

Losing Zaitsev is good, adding Eriksson is nice.

St.Louis, Huselius, and Briere were on waivers at one point too, it turned out well for them.
 

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Downgrade is being overstated. 30 pts in 81GP for Faksa vs 44 in 73GP for Kadri. Faksa pks and got the match up role on Dallas and less PP time than Kadri.

Losing Zaitsev is good, adding Eriksson is nice.

St.Louis, Huselius, and Briere were on waivers at one point too, it turned out well for them.
44 points last year, but 55 and 61 the two years prior, with 32 goals each year. Faksa had......33 points. Trading a guy after an off-year is an easy way to lose trades, just ask Carolina about Jeff Skinner.

Also, if you're comparing Kassian to St. Louis, Huselius, and Briere, then I don't even know what to say. Those guys all had skill sets to succeed, just never got the right opportunity. Kassian has a fraction of the skill.
 

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He's not playing because he's not healthy. McQuaid also does things that Polak doesn't.

Petan is pretty much garbage and not an NHL player, McGinn is at least that.

Kruger was good this year, nearly 50% CF at even strength despite 80% D Zone starts.

Brouwer is a guy that isn't an NHL player anymore. I would love to see your set up on CapFriendly though :)

IDK why you say that about Brouwer when he did about as well, if not better than, Hathaway except playing on Florida instead of Calgary. Plus Brouwer is better defensively and not as slow (although admittedly, not really super fast either). He's up there in age but if he comes cheap and on one year, I'd give him a chance on our 4th line. If not, there is a long list of other guys in FA who fulfill the same purpose for less than 1 mill.

I guess it is only fair that you get to tear apart mine ;)

Leafs Lineup
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Marlies Lineup
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I've toyed around with a bunch of Kadri trades, and they pretty much just change with rumours, so this is just the most recent one. I have also had Kadri for COL's 1st and a future 2nd, and the Leafs just keeping Zaitsev in the Sanheim role. They could do the same with Philly. I am fine with any of it.

Trades
:leafs
2nd round pick 2021 (EDM)
5th round pick 2020 (EDM)

:edmonton
RW Connor Brown
4th round pick 2019 (TOR)

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:leafs
7th round pick 2021 (TBL)

:bolts
RD Igor Ozhiganov
G Kasimir Kaskisuo

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:leafs
RD Travis Sanheim
C German Rubtsov
6th round pick 2019 (PHI)

:flyers
C Nazem Kadri
RD Nikita Zaitsev
C Dakota Joshua

Signings
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Just an FYI, everyone on a 700k deal is on an AHL deal. The rest are ELC's or legit deals.
 

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44 points last year, but 55 and 61 the two years prior, with 32 goals each year. Faksa had......33 points. Trading a guy after an off-year is an easy way to lose trades, just ask Carolina about Jeff Skinner.

Also, if you're comparing Kassian to St. Louis, Huselius, and Briere, then I don't even know what to say. Those guys all had skill sets to succeed, just never got the right opportunity. Kassian has a fraction of the skill.

Kadri also produced that as a 2C. He's firmly the 3C now and doesn't seem capable of taking advantage of the match ups he's been given because he never adjusted to his new role.

In terms of waiver wires, okay, less skilled guys but quality players; McBackUp, Laughton, Watson are all useful players. Kassian falls in that category, he's a good bottom 6 player.

IDK why you say that about Brouwer when he did about as well, if not better than, Hathaway except playing on Florida instead of Calgary. Plus Brouwer is better defensively and not as slow (although admittedly, not really super fast either). He's up there in age but if he comes cheap and on one year, I'd give him a chance on our 4th line. If not, there is a long list of other guys in FA who fulfill the same purpose for less than 1 mill.

I guess it is only fair that you get to tear apart mine ;)

Leafs Lineup
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Marlies Lineup
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I've toyed around with a bunch of Kadri trades, and they pretty much just change with rumours, so this is just the most recent one. I have also had Kadri for COL's 1st and a future 2nd, and the Leafs just keeping Zaitsev in the Sanheim role. They could do the same with Philly. I am fine with any of it.

Trades
:leafs
2nd round pick 2021 (EDM)
5th round pick 2020 (EDM)

:edmonton
RW Connor Brown
4th round pick 2019 (TOR)

---

:leafs
7th round pick 2021 (TBL)

:bolts
RD Igor Ozhiganov
G Kasimir Kaskisuo

---

:leafs
RD Travis Sanheim
C German Rubtsov
6th round pick 2019 (PHI)

:flyers
C Nazem Kadri
RD Nikita Zaitsev
C Dakota Joshua

Signings
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Just an FYI, everyone on a 700k deal is on an AHL deal. The rest are ELC's or legit deals.

I think you got more for Brown then he's worth and think if it's not Kassian, Edmonton will want to move some money. Benning was the name rumored at the deadline.

TBL-TOR deal is fine if they're okay with it.

The Flyers deal doesn't do anything for me at all, not gonna lie, I wouldn't do that trade, plus I believe if Joshua isn't signed, he's UFA.
If Marleau stays he stays but...

Aaltonen, Brouwer, Borgman, Petan, Sparks and Holl are a "no guy" for me.

Liljegren I don't think is ready yet because he lost more time this season to injury.
 

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IDK why you say that about Brouwer when he did about as well, if not better than, Hathaway except playing on Florida instead of Calgary. Plus Brouwer is better defensively and not as slow (although admittedly, not really super fast either). He's up there in age but if he comes cheap and on one year, I'd give him a chance on our 4th line. If not, there is a long list of other guys in FA who fulfill the same purpose for less than 1 mill.

I guess it is only fair that you get to tear apart mine ;)

Leafs Lineup
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Marlies Lineup
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I've toyed around with a bunch of Kadri trades, and they pretty much just change with rumours, so this is just the most recent one. I have also had Kadri for COL's 1st and a future 2nd, and the Leafs just keeping Zaitsev in the Sanheim role. They could do the same with Philly. I am fine with any of it.

Trades
:leafs
2nd round pick 2021 (EDM)
5th round pick 2020 (EDM)

:edmonton
RW Connor Brown
4th round pick 2019 (TOR)

---

:leafs
7th round pick 2021 (TBL)

:bolts
RD Igor Ozhiganov
G Kasimir Kaskisuo

---

:leafs
RD Travis Sanheim
C German Rubtsov
6th round pick 2019 (PHI)

:flyers
C Nazem Kadri
RD Nikita Zaitsev
C Dakota Joshua

Signings
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Just an FYI, everyone on a 700k deal is on an AHL deal. The rest are ELC's or legit deals.
I like these moves. I'd try my best to move Marleau too but other than that I like it
 

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Kadri also produced that as a 2C. He's firmly the 3C now and doesn't seem capable of taking advantage of the match ups he's been given because he never adjusted to his new role.

In terms of waiver wires, okay, less skilled guys but quality players; McBackUp, Laughton, Watson are all useful players. Kassian falls in that category, he's a good bottom 6 player.



I think you got more for Brown then he's worth and think if it's not Kassian, Edmonton will want to move some money. Benning was the name rumored at the deadline.

TBL-TOR deal is fine if they're okay with it.

The Flyers deal doesn't do anything for me at all, not gonna lie, I wouldn't do that trade, plus I believe if Joshua isn't signed, he's UFA.
If Marleau stays he stays but...

Aaltonen, Brouwer, Borgman, Petan, Sparks and Holl are a "no guy" for me.

Liljegren I don't think is ready yet because he lost more time this season to injury.
you'd rather have Faksa and Albin Eriksson than Sanheim and Rubtsov? Really??
 

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you'd rather have Faksa and Albin Eriksson than Sanheim and Rubtsov? Really??

Yeah, Rubstov's production in the Q wasn't overly impressive for a 20 year old.

Sanheim is a LD, we're loaded at LD.
 

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Hahaha we can also shoot from center ice and outshoot Boston if ur a stats person.
Bruins hits Intimidate the leafs team, leafs hits just randomly happen just to say we hit too

There is nothing to suggest that the hits are intimidating us. Try watching the games instead of just taking what Kypreos and Cherry yell about as gospel.
 

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Yeah, Rubstov's production in the Q wasn't overly impressive for a 20 year old.

Sanheim is a LD, we're loaded at LD.

Sanheim is a RD according to CapFriendly and every other website I have found. He was Provorov's partner, which is partially the reason why I think he'd be great for Rielly.
 

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Havent missed a game j I dont know how many years my friend, even when we were aweful

Then I have no idea how you can figure that being intimidated has been the problem.

Its literally been special teams. We cant score and they do. No amount of hitting is changing that.
 

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I think you got more for Brown then he's worth and think if it's not Kassian, Edmonton will want to move some money. Benning was the name rumored at the deadline.

TBL-TOR deal is fine if they're okay with it.

The Flyers deal doesn't do anything for me at all, not gonna lie, I wouldn't do that trade, plus I believe if Joshua isn't signed, he's UFA.
If Marleau stays he stays but...

Aaltonen, Brouwer, Borgman, Petan, Sparks and Holl are a "no guy" for me.

Liljegren I don't think is ready yet because he lost more time this season to injury.

I know you don't think Brown is a 2nd rounder type of player, but I think he is. Plus it's super watered down... Like they move up from a 5th to a 4th, even though it may only be like 10 spots. Also, if they want to move Benning or other forms of money, do it in another deal. Doesn't have to be in the Leafs' deal. I'm sure they could offer up Benning and get something from another team if they desperately want to open up cap. It shouldn't be our problem, because Brown is already on a sweet deal for them.

The Philly trade happens at the draft, so we still own Joshua's rights. I like Sanheim because he is a big body who can play a two-way game and replace Zaitsev in the top 4. He is a LHD, but he does play RD, and he is only turning 23 this year. He could explode beside Rielly next year, and I thought if anything, Philly would reject because they'd have so much love for him (or they'll say Zaitsev sucks or something like that). Rubtsov is not trending well, but he's probably the best prospect they'll be willing to give up and he's a guy who could turn into a great 3C for us with enough time. We can afford to give him that time. He's only 20, and was a first round pick not too long ago.

The guys you are a "no-guy" on are all depth players and guys who would have to fight for jobs, except maybe Sparks. The main thing is that they are all dirt cheap and can play a depth role effectively enough to compliment our top players, which is pretty much how our 4th line/bottom pairing should be anyways.

Hutch is back to be the number 3 and if Sparks really sucks next season, then Hutch is there to replace him. Otherwise, Aaltonen and Brouwer are just the guys I have winning the jobs, but they'll go up against DSP, Carcone, Timashov, Marchment, Bracco, Petan, Brooks, Korshkov, Engvall, etc. to win the job first. It's not like it's handed to them or anything, but I think they could form a very productive 4th line. A lot of people wanted Aaltonen on our 4th line this past year before he went back to the KHL. Well he had another great KHL season and would be perfect for a 4th line job this upcoming year. Plus since he can play all 3 forward spots, he's extra insurance on Gauthier as well. Brouwer is just the guy I picked out of a long list of cheap options because he is physical, has cup pedegree, has a solid defensive game (including PK ability) and wasn't terrible last year for Florida (12 goals and 21 points). He's older, but he's not bad. Otherwise, try Carpenter from Vegas, Acciari from Boston (although he may be more pricey), Hathaway from Calgary (but like I said, he's slow), etc.

Finally, I think Liljegren has shown enough to be ready for a bottom pairing role in the NHL (i.e. 16-17 minutes and maybe some special teams time), and I think he is ready for his next challenge. He was able to pick up a top pairing AHL role without too much difficulty, and while he should be putting up more production than he has been, I think he can take his next steps in the NHL rather than in the AHL. If he really is not ready by camp, there are other options, including offering PTO's to guys or (hopefully not, at least not over Borgman) using Holl. Personally, it's also about giving Duszak, Lindgren, Hollowell and Rasanen a chance in the AHL as well though. Rasanen may go back to Europe, in which case there may be room for a solid veteran insurance addition, but if he doesn't, I want to make sure we can offer up enough ice time to all of our RD prospects on the Marlies.
 

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Sanheim is a RD according to CapFriendly and every other website I have found. He was Provorov's partner, which is partially the reason why I think he'd be great for Rielly.

You're right and I was wrong (No problem saying that)

I didn't notice that they took Sanheim away from Gudas, I was under the impression they had kept Sanheim glued to Gudas on the 3rd pairing still.

I know you don't think Brown is a 2nd rounder type of player, but I think he is. Plus it's super watered down... Like they move up from a 5th to a 4th, even though it may only be like 10 spots. Also, if they want to move Benning or other forms of money, do it in another deal. Doesn't have to be in the Leafs' deal. I'm sure they could offer up Benning and get something from another team if they desperately want to open up cap. It shouldn't be our problem, because Brown is already on a sweet deal for them.

The Philly trade happens at the draft, so we still own Joshua's rights. I like Sanheim because he is a big body who can play a two-way game and replace Zaitsev in the top 4. He is a LHD, but he does play RD, and he is only turning 23 this year. He could explode beside Rielly next year, and I thought if anything, Philly would reject because they'd have so much love for him (or they'll say Zaitsev sucks or something like that). Rubtsov is not trending well, but he's probably the best prospect they'll be willing to give up and he's a guy who could turn into a great 3C for us with enough time. We can afford to give him that time. He's only 20, and was a first round pick not too long ago.

The guys you are a "no-guy" on are all depth players and guys who would have to fight for jobs, except maybe Sparks. The main thing is that they are all dirt cheap and can play a depth role effectively enough to compliment our top players, which is pretty much how our 4th line/bottom pairing should be anyways.

Hutch is back to be the number 3 and if Sparks really sucks next season, then Hutch is there to replace him. Otherwise, Aaltonen and Brouwer are just the guys I have winning the jobs, but they'll go up against DSP, Carcone, Timashov, Marchment, Bracco, Petan, Brooks, Korshkov, Engvall, etc. to win the job first. It's not like it's handed to them or anything, but I think they could form a very productive 4th line. A lot of people wanted Aaltonen on our 4th line this past year before he went back to the KHL. Well he had another great KHL season and would be perfect for a 4th line job this upcoming year. Plus since he can play all 3 forward spots, he's extra insurance on Gauthier as well. Brouwer is just the guy I picked out of a long list of cheap options because he is physical, has cup pedegree, has a solid defensive game (including PK ability) and wasn't terrible last year for Florida (12 goals and 21 points). He's older, but he's not bad. Otherwise, try Carpenter from Vegas, Acciari from Boston (although he may be more pricey), Hathaway from Calgary (but like I said, he's slow), etc.

Finally, I think Liljegren has shown enough to be ready for a bottom pairing role in the NHL (i.e. 16-17 minutes and maybe some special teams time), and I think he is ready for his next challenge. He was able to pick up a top pairing AHL role without too much difficulty, and while he should be putting up more production than he has been, I think he can take his next steps in the NHL rather than in the AHL. If he really is not ready by camp, there are other options, including offering PTO's to guys or (hopefully not, at least not over Borgman) using Holl. Personally, it's also about giving Duszak, Lindgren, Hollowell and Rasanen a chance in the AHL as well though. Rasanen may go back to Europe, in which case there may be room for a solid veteran insurance addition, but if he doesn't, I want to make sure we can offer up enough ice time to all of our RD prospects on the Marlies.

These are fair explanations.

Hutch would be in over Sparks for me day 1 and I just really like the depth guys I chose over yours. It might be a personal choice kind of thing but I don't like the guys you have in there at all.

I don't think Liljegren is ready BUT, I would never hold someone back that is ready either. I also think people maybe have unfair expectations for him. I don't think he is Karlsson. Funny enough he might be closer to a guy like Anton Stralman. He seems like he could be closer to that type of guy, "good" puck skills but he's not an offensive dynamo either.

I wonder if we could squeeze Ratcliffe out of the Flyers? Big boy.
 
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Then I have no idea how you can figure that being intimidated has been the problem.

Its literally been special teams. We cant score and they do. No amount of hitting is changing that.
Well I'm focusing on game 2, even with how bad the refs were our guys looked like they were running away the entire game.
And this kadri vs nylander conversation, some think nylander is playing well. outside of him bringing the puck in the the offensive third I still see him avoiding contact, not making the effort needed to win battles...losing pucks because hes scared of getting hit
 

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Then I have no idea how you can figure that being intimidated has been the problem.

Its literally been special teams. We cant score and they do. No amount of hitting is changing that.

Because people listen to Kypreos, Cherry and Burke and think we need Hathaway and Kassian lol

When #grit is not an issue.

I’d much rather Ennis and Moore, who grind and battle along the boards and get control of the puck than Spend an asset on Zach Kassian lmao
 

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You're right and I was wrong (No problem saying that)

I didn't notice that they took Sanheim away from Gudas, I was under the impression they had kept Sanheim glued to Gudas on the 3rd pairing still.

If that were true, I wouldn't target him that's for sure. Only way we trade Kadri and Zaitsev together is if we are getting a nice futures package which we can use to get a top 4 RD, or if we get a top 4 RD directly.

If Sanheim is as good as I think he is, this is a good deal. The Leafs get younger and cheaper, but overall, not really much worse. Plus it solves our cap problems without having to give up Nylander or anything. If we can get out of Marleau as a bonus, then even greater possibilities open up (i.e. getting someone like Ferland, Simmonds, etc. for our top 9, or maybe upgrading the defense a bit more).
 

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If that were true, I wouldn't target him that's for sure. Only way we trade Kadri and Zaitsev together is if we are getting a nice futures package which we can use to get a top 4 RD, or if we get a top 4 RD directly.

If Sanheim is as good as I think he is, this is a good deal. The Leafs get younger and cheaper, but overall, not really much worse. Plus it solves our cap problems without having to give up Nylander or anything. If we can get out of Marleau as a bonus, then even greater possibilities open up (i.e. getting someone like Ferland, Simmonds, etc. for our top 9, or maybe upgrading the defense a bit more).

Yeah, I like Moore but seeing him beside Matthews is a bit painful. Bracco might even be more suited to it with his passing.

Either way, nice job on the lineup. More then 1 way to skin a cat for sure.
 
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