Free Agency and Trade Thread - Playoff Edition II

[WTFMAN99]

I think Nylander will turn out to be a very good player, I just can't see upgrading in other areas with JT, AM, MM, WN all making the big bucks. Unless Zaitsev, Kadri and Brown go.......

Marleau, Brown, Zaitsev are definitely dead weight. Kadri is nice but he is still a bit of a luxury for us. I don't know how effective he is in that 3C role as opposed to 2C.

 

[Dreakmur]

Kerfoot is underrated, I would do this trade in a heartbeat.

Kerfoot is an RFA. After back to back 40+ point seasons, he'll probably want nearly as much money as Kadri.

 

[Knies iT]

Main trade forum had some Avs fans unopposed to Kerfoot + 16 for Kadri. I would be okay with that, cheaper 3C and 16th is nice to help stock the cupboards.

The Avs seem like the perfect hypothetical fit for Kadri. They desperately need a 2C and would prefer to deal with an out of conference team like Toronto. Kadri would thrive in that bloodbath division.

If you can ensure a guy like Moritz Seider is there at 16, who I think has the earliest ETA in that range, that would be an appealing trade.

Avs fans are also interested in Erik Johnson for Kadri as a base. I'm less intrigued, as EJ is 31 with a huge cap hit and declining on-ice performance.

 

[Menzinger]

Marleau, Brown, Zaitsev are definitely dead weight. Kadri is nice but he is still a bit of a luxury for us. I don't know how effective he is in that 3C role as opposed to 2C.

Problem though is you then have to make an additional trade to bring in another centre, or else you make Nylander not play another game with Matthew's which I dont think is ideal.

During the playoffs when emotions were running high I jumped on board the trade Kadri train, but now I have a harder time justifying it until we finally hit his ufa season

 

[Menzinger]

Fenton and the Wild could. E open for business this summer and Spurgeon fits a Dubas style defender perfectly. Great puck movement, high hockey iq and a rhd.

Problem is finding the right combo of assets that would intro the wild. Their last few moves have been for younger rfas already in the NHL so maybe AJ could be of interest

 

[Bazeek]

Fenton and the Wild could. E open for business this summer and Spurgeon fits a Dubas style defender perfectly. Great puck movement, high hockey iq and a rhd.

Problem is finding the right combo of assets that would intro the wild. Their last few moves have been for younger rfas already in the NHL so maybe AJ could be of interest

Minnesota's biggest problem right now is being overloaded with left wings.

 

[Martin Skoula]

Fenton and the Wild could. E open for business this summer and Spurgeon fits a Dubas style defender perfectly. Great puck movement, high hockey iq and a rhd.

Problem is finding the right combo of assets that would intro the wild. Their last few moves have been for younger rfas already in the NHL so maybe AJ could be of interest

Turn Kadri into futures, move these futures for Spurgeon. Money stays roughly equal.

I wanted a Spurgeon + Staal for Kadri + 1st deal before Muzzin was brought in, I think we beat Boston if we make that deal (and don't have a string of freak LHD injuries).

 

[as Pure as Evil]

I also think the deal with the avs would be good for both clubs. Kadri needs a change of scenery and his value is still high

Kerfoot we can strong arm in negotiations with out having to worry about a offersheet.

The we can either draft one of the hulking defenceman Bromberg or the German or the bpa depending who falls. Or use the pick + kap/aj depending who is being greedy to target a high end rhd

Erik j is a no go for me. He's on the wrong side of 30 huge contract and nvm or ntc to muck matters up.

 

[Menzinger]

Minnesota's biggest problem right now is being overloaded with left wings.

True but I suspect they may move a few bodies this offseason

 

[Kiwi]

Problem though is you then have to make an additional trade to bring in another centre, or else you make Nylander not play another game with Matthew's which I dont think is ideal.

During the playoffs when emotions were running high I jumped on board the trade Kadri train, but now I have a harder time justifying it until we finally hit his ufa season

I'm more than willing to move on at this point

Kadri just isn't being used to his maximum potential at 3C on this team and I wouldn't mind moving him for a less offensively gifted but strong defensively PKing cheaper 3C option

 

[SHANNYPLAN]

Leafs: Tyler Bertuzzi
Wings: Andreas Johnsson

Leafs: Josh Anderson, Zack Werenski
Jackets: William Nylander, Travis Dermott, 2nd

Leafs: Adam Lowry, 2nd
Jets: Nazem Kadri

Leafs: 3rd/4th
Sharks: Marleau @ 2.25 Ret

Bertuzzi - Matthews - Anderson
Hyman - - - Tavares - - - Marner
Moore - - - Lowry - - - Kapanen
Marchement - Goat - Mikheyev

Rielly - Werenski
Muzzin - Liljigren
Rosen - - Zaitsev

 

[jaric1862]

Theres a lot of top 4 RHD expiring at the end of next year. If we have the cap space, I could definitely see Dubas going after one

 

[DougGilmour93]

Kadri
Kapanen

For

Jost
Kerfoot
16th overall



Then...


Nylander
Timashov

For

Bertuzzi
Glendening
Bowey
2nd in 20
2nd in 21

 

[hockeynorth]

Kadri
Kapanen

For

Jost
Kerfoot
16th overall



Then...


Nylander
Timashov

For

Bertuzzi
Glendening
Bowey
2nd in 20
2nd in 21

Like the first... dislike the second

 

[LeafsOHLRangers98]

Kadri
Kapanen

For

Jost
Kerfoot
16th overall



Then...


Nylander
Timashov

For

Bertuzzi
Glendening
Bowey
2nd in 20
2nd in 21

2nd is garbage, 1st is good.

 

[Rob Brown]

The price for Barrie has to be significant. They aren't doing it just for Kapanen or Johnsson or Nylander. Then again Erik Karlsson didn't cost all that much one season before free agency especially if he doesn't re-sign with San Jose. How about Nylander and Liljegren for Barrie? This would be a bold move that kind of cashes in on a fair bit of the team's future while possibly having nothing to show for it after a season. Barrie seems like he would be a great 1 year addition bridging for the time when prospect defensemen are pushing for an NHL job.

Here's an even bolder idea that is going to sound blasphemous: trading Morgan Rielly while acquiring Barrie. Rielly's market has to be sky high with that great contract and 2 consecutive years of great performance. But he's a left side guy. The Leafs have a lot of quality left side defenders. It's arguable that the loss of Rielly would be much easier to cover for than the loss of even Zaitsev. Some of Rielly's great numbers are opportunity related. AND a wild card is that there are certain media people itching to "get" Rielly in a controversy. They tried again this season. This wasn't the first time. These people don't forgive and forget. They will be coming for him again. The question is what would you use a great asset like Rielly to acquire? How about among other goodies a future right side stud?

Nylander and Liljegren is way too much for Barrie, and no, we're not trading Rielly.

 

[Kyle Campbell]

Problem though is you then have to make an additional trade to bring in another centre, or else you make Nylander not play another game with Matthew's which I dont think is ideal.

During the playoffs when emotions were running high I jumped on board the trade Kadri train, but now I have a harder time justifying it until we finally hit his ufa season

I like the trade of Kadri to the avs. What if we slid Marleua to 3c? The centre role might give him extra motivation to perform, and we would only have to play him 10-14 mins per night, assuming Matthews and Tavares get proper minutes and tossing a few to the 4c. This way we could load up the top two lines Tavares/Marner and Matthews/Nylander.

Third line would be a decent defensive line if we kept Kappy, marleua is responsible and maybe that’s new Russian guy.

 

[TML1967]

The Avs seem like the perfect hypothetical fit for Kadri. They desperately need a 2C and would prefer to deal with an out of conference team like Toronto. Kadri would thrive in that bloodbath division.

If you can ensure a guy like Moritz Seider is there at 16, who I think has the earliest ETA in that range, that would be an appealing trade.

Avs fans are also interested in Erik Johnson for Kadri as a base. I'm less intrigued, as EJ is 31 with a huge cap hit and declining on-ice performance.

Kerfoot would be a pretty solid 3C, especially if he has a defensively responsible winger or two like Kap/Moore.

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Adding a Broberg/Harley would be great for our D depth, Seider is more a reach at 16 but hes 6'4 and a RHD.

Kaliyev is a hell of a shooter, and he is LW where we are also weak.

Newhook is supposed to be one of the best skaters in the draft, is a play maker and C.

Anyone know what the salary would be likely on Kerfoot?

 

[Dreakmur]

Kerfoot would be a pretty solid 3C, especially if he has a defensively responsible winger or two like Kap/Moore.

How much C has he played? I thought he was the 2nd line LW this year.

Anyone know what the salary would be likely on Kerfoot?

He has 43 and 42 point seasons. Depending on the term, it could be upwards of 5+. Contracts have gone crazy lately....

 

[LeafsOHLRangers98]

How much C has he played? I thought he was the 2nd line LW this year.



He has 43 and 42 point seasons. Depending on the term, it could be upwards of 5+. Contracts have gone crazy lately....

Kerfoot took slightly more faceoffs than Nylander this year. I wouldn't count on hin as a full time center.

He could play the Marleau strong side role with Nylander on a line without a clear cut C but you're better off keeping him on the wing.

 

[A1LeafNation]

Hyman	2.25	Tavares	11	Marner	9.95
Marleau	6.25	Matthews	11.634	Nylander	6.963
Mikheyev	0.925	Kadri	4.5	Kapanen	2.5
Engvall	0.925	Gauthier	0.675	Brown	2.1
		Moore	0.775
	Rielly	5	TRADE	4
	Muzzin	4	Liljegren	0.895
	Dermott	0.864	Hainsey	1
	Rosen	0.75	Holl	0.675
		Andersen	5
		UFA	1
		Kessel	1.2
		Total Cap	84.831

[TBODY] [/TBODY]

 

[aingefan]

Kerfoot took slightly more faceoffs than Nylander this year. I wouldn't count on hin as a full time center.

He could play the Marleau strong side role with Nylander on a line without a clear cut C but you're better off keeping him on the wing.

Cap neutral trades are going to be hard to swing this off-season.
The player sounds like a fit. The $ less so.
Colorado has the picks and low-cost prospects that made a Kadri trade possible. So does Carolina, unless that ship has sailed.
I’m pretty sure that Dubas is going to keep the future in mind with deals this off-season. I could easily see him targeting picks and near-ready prospects for Kadri, who’s probably the most viable tradeable bigger contract.

 

[ShaneFalco]

Not sure why some keep saying Marleau could be moved to C. He can't even play the wing effectively anymore, he doesn't want to play C, and babcock has a man-crush on him

 

[dubplatepressure]

Not sure why some keep saying Marleau could be moved to C. He can't even play the wing effectively anymore, he doesn't want to play C, and babcock has a man-crush on him

I don't think it matters - he won't be on the roster in October.

 

[showtime8]

Not sure why some keep saying Marleau could be moved to C. He can't even play the wing effectively anymore, he doesn't want to play C, and babcock has a man-crush on him

I think he's still effective as a player. It's just how we perceive him output based on his contract.

If Marleau was making 2mill and playing on the 3rd line, it would be a completely different conversation about him.

I still think he's an important piece for the dressing room, but the 6mill is a tough pill to swallow with everything else considered.