Free Agency and Trade Thread - Playoff Edition II

[Menzinger]

What's been interesting about Marleau isn't an awful lot of Torontos media seem to be suggesting that hes moveable this summer.

 

[HoweHullOrr]

I assume if that was the case, this is likely to be Marleau's last season before retirement. He goes to a team needing veteran leadership like Arizona that's not a cap team, they save $5M in cash and Marleau plays in the sun.

Sure, but a guy like that is probably in a position (age, financial status) that he'll do what he really wants to do. He's made his money, and should be set financially if he used any common sense over his hockey career.

PM has a NMC and controls his destiny. I'm not sure a guy in his position is chomping at the bit to make another move and deal with the inevitable disruption to his life that this will produce. He also has a family and that will factor into the decision as well.

In the unlikely event (imho) there's a trade like this, the Coyotes (or whomever) will extract a price for this. They received a roster player and a 3rd iirc in the last (somewhat) similar situation.

 

[Legion34]

The easiest move i can see for marleau is to have Vancouver buy him out then he goes back to SJ

Toronto could take back and buy out spooner to ease the cash

 

[Legion34]

What's been interesting about Marleau isn't an awful lot of Torontos media seem to be suggesting that hes moveable this summer.

Speculation from sharks fans who claim to know the family is that the marleaus want to go back home and will be willing to make that happen.

 

[Warden of the North]

What's been interesting about Marleau isn't an awful lot of Torontos media seem to be suggesting that hes moveable this summer.

Everyone is moveable.

Its proven time and time again.

 

[egd27]

Just read an article that suggested that we should try to sign Nail Yakupov as the new Tyler Ennis.

Actually, it wouldn’t be a bad idea, imo. The writer said that he would be a great fit for use on the PP. He has a very good one timer, and that is something we could really use.

He’s only 25 yrs. old and has only been out of the NHL for one season. There’s no denying that he has elite skills and perhaps playing with Matthews and getting top PP minutes could reinvent his NHL career?

One of those very low risk/ high reward situations, no? As a bonus, he might be able to be a valuable communicator with the two Russians we just signed recently (if one or both were to crack the line up).

Thoughts?

The writer was James Tanner from Fan Sided. Should not be taken seriously

 

[Dragao6]

Is Sam bennet a good option at 3C?
I'm thinking bennet as 3c if kadri goes for trouba?

 

[hockeywiz542]

31 Thoughts: Why navigating Phil Kessel trade won't be easy for Penguins - Sportsnet.ca

5. After the Hurricanes were eliminated, a couple of sources indicated there was some in-season frustration from Brett Pesce that might force a trade. Waddell confirmed that was true, but is no longer a concern. From the start of the season through December, Pesce was seventh on the team in ice-time, down 1:31 per night from his 2017-18 average. From New Year’s Day on, he jumped to 21:20, behind only Slavin and Justin Faulk. (His playoff number was 23:06, also third). Crisis averted. Good news for Carolina, he’s a good player. If there is a defenceman who might get moved, it is Haydn Fleury. No longer waiver-eligible, he needs a place to play.

18. Sergei Andronov, a 29-year-old winger who played at KHL CSKA Moscow, informed interested NHL teams on Friday that he will stay in Russia. A 2009 St. Louis draft pick who spent two years in the AHL, Andronov got a better offer overseas. Calgary, Columbus and Toronto were among interested parties.

 

[Dreakmur]

Is Sam bennet a good option at 3C?
I'm thinking bennet as 3c if kadri goes for trouba?

He might be a good 3rd C. I think he has played a lot more wing in recent years, though he has been a centre in the past.

Worst case, he's a good energy winger.

 

[SeaOfBlue]

31 Thoughts: Why navigating Phil Kessel trade won't be easy for Penguins - Sportsnet.ca

Fleury has not been very good, and no big deal losing out on Andronov. He's a defensive 4C, and I doubt he would have even stuck at the NHL level.

 

[Peace Frog]

The writer was James Tanner from Fan Sided. Should not be taken seriously

He didn’t put a rumour out there, he just suggested that Yakupov would be worth going after. I agree, but wasn’t aware that he is under contract for another season in Russia.

 

[Antropovsky]

I know it’s highly improbable but pavelski but I would love to see Pavelski in the blue and white for a few years.

 

[LeafsOHLRangers98]

Speculation from sharks fans who claim to know the family is that the marleaus want to go back home and will be willing to make that happen.

The Sharks have a lot of things to figure out so I think that would have to wait until after July 1st, but I certainly hope so.

These are their upcoming UFA's and they have $24M in cap space to work with:
Joe Thornton
Joe Pavelski
Erik Karlsson
Gustav Nyquist
Jonas Donskoi

Timo Meier (RFA)

 

[Jozay]

Speculation from sharks fans who claim to know the family is that the marleaus want to go back home and will be willing to make that happen.

Well the Sharks would have to want him, which I doubt they do.

I honestly think media thinks there some sort of out because everyone is shocked the Leafs made such an obviously short sighted signing. Literally everyone knew this was going to happen, and the Leafs still gave Marleau that third year. Just a brutal decision that I think some people are still having a hard time believing.

 

[as Pure as Evil]

so I was thinking the other night. in between inebriation and more inebriation I had a thought. what could you offer the nucks to obtain Nikita Tryamkin from them. fast physical D that abandoned them and went back to the Khl after a really solid 1 and 1/4 seasons. I belive his contract is up with the khl and he wants to return to the nhl. . would be a decent move depending on what would be needed to facilitate the trade

 

[Legion34]

Well the Sharks would have to want him, which I doubt they do.

I honestly think media thinks there some sort of out because everyone is shocked the Leafs made such an obviously short sighted signing. Literally everyone knew this was going to happen, and the Leafs still gave Marleau that third year. Just a brutal decision that I think some people are still having a hard time believing.

Meh. There may or may not be. To me I think it’s possible because of the way dubas and babs are acting. Even after JT, who was shown the plan and decided to come here,
They were still acting like they were going to add players and seemed super confident going forward.

They were talking about re signing Jake. With what money? If not marleau......

I’m not saying it will or won’t happen. I don’t know. But a lot of the clubs actions are not of a team that is crunched.

Remember tavares sat down with the team. Was told the plan and he said he came knowing that he wasn’t going to subtract from the core. He could have chose anywhere.....

Who knows. It all may be a house of cards. But the actions of the team are adding up like they have a lot more room than we see on cap friendly

 

[Legion34]

The Sharks have a lot of things to figure out so I think that would have to wait until after July 1st, but I certainly hope so.

These are their upcoming UFA's and they have $24M in cap space to work with:
Joe Thornton
Joe Pavelski
Erik Karlsson
Gustav Nyquist
Jonas Donskoi

Timo Meier (RFA)

The Sharks have a lot of things to figure out so I think that would have to wait until after July 1st, but I certainly hope so.

These are their upcoming UFA's and they have $24M in cap space to work with:
Joe Thornton
Joe Pavelski
Erik Karlsson
Gustav Nyquist
Jonas Donskoi

Timo Meier (RFA)

Or who knows? Maybe IF the sharks fans are accurate and the marleaus want to go back home that badly.... he might just be willing to go west to a cali team and then get traded to a contender at the deadline.

I mean at the end of the day. For most family comes first. I could see them being upset. Moving a hall of fame career and now everybody dumping on the guy. I could see that being tough on a wife. But who knows how it all will turn out.

If anything sell him to Vancouver with sweetners for spooner.

They buy out marleau for like 3.8 million

We buy out spooner for like 2.6 million.

He goes back to the sharks for the minimum?

 

[rumman]

Everyone is moveable.

Its proven time and time again.

if Marleau and Zaitev can be moved, and that's a big IF, the Leafs cap problems would be solved. Now to fix the D..............

 

[egd27]

He didn’t put a rumour out there, he just suggested that Yakupov would be worth going after. I agree, but wasn’t aware that he is under contract for another season in Russia.

Oh I understand that, but most of pieces he writes contain nothing but "spreadsheet opinions" mixed with Nylander love and Marleau hate. So I didn't mean don't take the "rumor" seriously, I meant don't take the opinion seriously.

But to each his own.

 

[ToneDog]

Is Sam bennet a good option at 3C?
I'm thinking bennet as 3c if kadri goes for trouba?

Bennett cannot match Kadri's offence but he has Kadri's grit and knows how to use it without being suspended. Kadri for Trouba would solidify our D if Trouba agrees to extend with the Leafs.

 

[BlueForever75]

Or who knows? Maybe IF the sharks fans are accurate and the marleaus want to go back home that badly.... he might just be willing to go west to a cali team and then get traded to a contender at the deadline.

I mean at the end of the day. For most family comes first. I could see them being upset. Moving a hall of fame career and now everybody dumping on the guy. I could see that being tough on a wife. But who knows how it all will turn out.

If anything sell him to Vancouver with sweetners for spooner.

They buy out marleau for like 3.8 million

We buy out spooner for like 2.6 million.

He goes back to the sharks for the minimum?

If I am not mistake any team acquiring Marleau after July 1st would only be responsible for 1.25 million in salary as that is what is left on Marleau's contract after his bonus is paid July 1. His cap hit on an acquiring teams salary cap would still be 6.25 million but they would only need to pay 1.25 million in actual money. This is what makes Marleau's contract that moveable. At a 1.25 million price tag there are not too many older players that will be available that would still be able to provide what Marleau does and will. He isn't exactly a stiff, he's just not worth 6.25 million. But at 1.25 million, he's a great get for a contending team that has cap space, or even a team that is on the brink of making the playoffs and need some vet leadership.

As for SJ, if Karlsson walks as expected. And Joe Thornton comes back for one more kick at the can for a cup. SJ will have the cap space to take on a Marleau contract. The deal can even be expanded where we take on another salary from SJ while sweetening the pot.

Marleau
Johnsson

for

Baun

We need a D, they can use some younger wingers. And Marleau gets to play one more season with Thornton on his wing for a run at a cup.

 

[CJZizzari]

So I'm aware that title sounds crazy because he's so amazing right? But they aren't winning. That's not his fault right? Ofcourse not. But history has taught us Superstars aren't always the best way to win Stanley Cups. What do you think are there any trades you'd consider for it to be worthy?

 

[ACC1224]

Think you've posted this on the wrong board.

 

[Nithoniniel]

The only reason I wouldn't laugh if the Oilers traded McDavid would be because I'd feel dreadfully sorry for their fans.

 

[Fogelhund]

If I am not mistake any team acquiring Marleau after July 1st would only be responsible for 1.25 million in salary as that is what is left on Marleau's contract after his bonus is paid July 1. His cap hit on an acquiring teams salary cap would still be 6.25 million but they would only need to pay 1.25 million in actual money. This is what makes Marleau's contract that moveable. At a 1.25 million price tag there are not too many older players that will be available that would still be able to provide what Marleau does and will. He isn't exactly a stiff, he's just not worth 6.25 million. But at 1.25 million, he's a great get for a contending team that has cap space, or even a team that is on the brink of making the playoffs and need some vet leadership.

As for SJ, if Karlsson walks as expected. And Joe Thornton comes back for one more kick at the can for a cup. SJ will have the cap space to take on a Marleau contract. The deal can even be expanded where we take on another salary from SJ while sweetening the pot.

Marleau
Johnsson

for

Baun

We need a D, they can use some younger wingers. And Marleau gets to play one more season with Thornton on his wing for a run at a cup.

Marleau's "bonus" is paid in two installments, one in July, one in December. I don't know the exact terms, but I'd think the team he is traded to, would be on the hook for the second installment, whatever amount that is.