Free Agency and Trade Thread - Playoff Edition II

[Peace Frog]

Just read an article that suggested that we should try to sign Nail Yakupov as the new Tyler Ennis.

Actually, it wouldn’t be a bad idea, imo. The writer said that he would be a great fit for use on the PP. He has a very good one timer, and that is something we could really use.

He’s only 25 yrs. old and has only been out of the NHL for one season. There’s no denying that he has elite skills and perhaps playing with Matthews and getting top PP minutes could reinvent his NHL career?

One of those very low risk/ high reward situations, no? As a bonus, he might be able to be a valuable communicator with the two Russians we just signed recently (if one or both were to crack the line up).

Thoughts?

 

[SeaOfBlue]

I don’t really see how that helps toronto. They need to add as well. I don’t think management sees Z as a black hole the way we do.

And 5 percent of the cap for a top 4 RHD isn’t nearly as bad as people think.

My personal guess Would be to get tanev with an overpay as well as getting them to buyout marleau. They have basically a full lineup and 30 million space.

We will see but it is interesting

I'm the last person who thinks he is a black hole, but if Dubas does not like Zaitsev's style of play, they may want to cut down the term. Tanev expires after this year, and then the Leafs have the cap space to try and get a bigger name to afford other guys.

 

[Dreakmur]

I don’t really see how that helps toronto. They need to add as well. I don’t think management sees Z as a black hole the way we do.

And 5 percent of the cap for a top 4 RHD isn’t nearly as bad as people think.

My personal guess Would be to get tanev with an overpay as well as getting them to buyout marleau. They have basically a full lineup and 30 million space.

We will see but it is interesting

For a #4 defenseman, 4.5 million isn't that bad. That's a pretty fair value. The problem is that we need good and great value contracts in a lot of places.

We're going to end up with about 40,000,000 in cap space tied up in Matthews, Tavares, Marner, and Nylander. There's not much room for error after that, and we still have to deal with the Marleau and that 6,250,000 spent on a bottom 6 left winger.

Arguably fair contracts like Zaitsev are on the chopping block. Even good contracts like Kadri may need to go.

 

[Dreakmur]

Just read an article that suggested that we should try to sign Nail Yakupov as the new Tyler Ennis.

Actually, it wouldn’t be a bad idea, imo. The writer said that he would be a great fit for use on the PP. He has a very good one timer, and that is something we could really use.

He’s only 25 yrs. old and has only been out of the NHL for one season. There’s no denying that he has elite skills and perhaps playing with Matthews and getting top PP minutes could reinvent his NHL career?

One of those very low risk/ high reward situations, no? As a bonus, he might be able to be a valuable communicator with the two Russians we just signed recently (if one or both were to crack the line up).

Thoughts?

Unless we clear out a lot of room up front, I don't see a need for him.

Marner, Nylander, Hyman, Marleau, Johnson, Kapanen, Moore, Mikheyev, Brown, and Bracco makes 10 wingers for 8 spots.

 

[Peace Frog]

Unless we clear out a lot of room up front, I don't see a need for him.

Marner, Nylander, Hyman, Marleau, Johnson, Kapanen, Moore, Mikheyev, Brown, and Bracco makes 10 wingers for 8 spots.

Yakupov is a far more talented player then some of the players you have pencilled in.

This guy was handled all wrong and I have a strong feeling that he could really thrive here in Toronto. Blazing speed, high compete level.... a real exciting player who loves the game like Ovechkin. I would love to see him on a one year contract.

With the potential changes to the line up both on the back and front end, having a left handed right winger could prove VERY beneficial.

 

[Menzinger]

It is extreme, but we've got a big cap issue.

As soon as Marner signs for 10, that's about all we have room for. We're a cap team even before Johnsson and Kapanen sign.

That's with Rose, Liljegren, and Holl on the blueline. That's with Petan, Moore, Gauthier, Bracco, and Mikheyev on forward.

You're presuming Marner will be signing for 10....

For example of they bridge him and dump Brown on another team that frees up space without trying to move one of Zaitsev/ Marleau (something they'll definitely try and do too)

 

[Dreakmur]

You're presuming Marner will be signing for 10....

For example of they bridge him and dump Brown on another team that frees up space without trying to move one of Zaitsev/ Marleau (something they'll definitely try and do too)

Yes, I am presuming that. It could be lower, but it could also be higher.

 

[Menzinger]

Just read an article that suggested that we should try to sign Nail Yakupov as the new Tyler Ennis.

Actually, it wouldn’t be a bad idea, imo. The writer said that he would be a great fit for use on the PP. He has a very good one timer, and that is something we could really use.

He’s only 25 yrs. old and has only been out of the NHL for one season. There’s no denying that he has elite skills and perhaps playing with Matthews and getting top PP minutes could reinvent his NHL career?

One of those very low risk/ high reward situations, no? As a bonus, he might be able to be a valuable communicator with the two Russians we just signed recently (if one or both were to crack the line up).

Thoughts?

I'd be fine with the move but I have a problem seeing where hed get into the lineup right now (though obviously trades will happen)

 

[dubplatepressure]

Denial. Cue the magic erasure.

You mean eraser?

It's not magic - why would we trade Johnsson, Kapanen, Kadri, and Brown and keep 2 other pieces that combined give us $10m back if gone?

Teams move out cap all time time. It's not an impossible subject. You sound pessimistic.

 

[deletethis]

I know the agent who sold the house. Home is in the Beaches.

Nylander and Marleau to the Canucks for Tanev, 2020 2nd (lottery protected 1st if Tanev doesn't re-sign), 2021 2nd
Marleau is bought out, either re-signs with the Leafs at $1M AAV or becomes the team's other assistant coach
Tanev is extended in July at $4.45M AAV
Marner, Johnsson, Kapanen are re-signed
None of Brown, Kadri, Zaitsev need to be moved
Bracco slips into the lineup in Nylander's role, team scores as many or more goals as 2018-19
Vancouver get to boast about how the deal is the steal of the century for them

 

[JEI]

Just read an article that suggested that we should try to sign Nail Yakupov as the new Tyler Ennis.

Actually, it wouldn’t be a bad idea, imo. The writer said that he would be a great fit for use on the PP. He has a very good one timer, and that is something we could really use.

He’s only 25 yrs. old and has only been out of the NHL for one season. There’s no denying that he has elite skills and perhaps playing with Matthews and getting top PP minutes could reinvent his NHL career?

One of those very low risk/ high reward situations, no? As a bonus, he might be able to be a valuable communicator with the two Russians we just signed recently (if one or both were to crack the line up).

Thoughts?

Why not? Leafs should be all for signing these types so much as they are breaking the bank (under 1m for now). Leafs should be pushing the reclamation angle for a lot of these UFA's trying to jump start their careers or revive a career. Even a Grigorenko could be worth gambling on. Could he be that much worse than what we had already in a 4th line spot? I doubt it. But again, does he come for a cheap price.

 

[Menzinger]

Tanev hasn't played 60+ games in 4 seasons lol.

No thank you

 

[hamzarocks]

Tanev hasn't played 60+ games in 4 seasons lol.

No thank you

Chris tanev is the type of player to get injured during the handshake line after a series. He is lupus on steroids. Dont understand how a player gets injured that often.

 

[HoweHullOrr]

You mean eraser?

It's not magic - why would we trade Johnsson, Kapanen, Kadri, and Brown and keep 2 other pieces that combined give us $10m back if gone?

Teams move out cap all time time. It's not an impossible subject. You sound pessimistic.

Yes eraser LOL.

Sure, we'd love to get rid of Marleau, but he has a NMC and is in control of his own destiny. Hence, I don't plan on this like its a certainty. Lots of things are possible, but what things are likely.

Getting rid of Zaitsev will be a little easier, but again, don't think the deal will be as sweet as some think I fear.

Its not a question of what we would ideally like to do in my mind. Its more a matter of doing what we may have to do. Some might call this pessimistic. Others might call this being realistic.

 

[Rare Jewel]

Just read an article that suggested that we should try to sign Nail Yakupov as the new Tyler Ennis.

Actually, it wouldn’t be a bad idea, imo. The writer said that he would be a great fit for use on the PP. He has a very good one timer, and that is something we could really use.

He’s only 25 yrs. old and has only been out of the NHL for one season. There’s no denying that he has elite skills and perhaps playing with Matthews and getting top PP minutes could reinvent his NHL career?

One of those very low risk/ high reward situations, no? As a bonus, he might be able to be a valuable communicator with the two Russians we just signed recently (if one or both were to crack the line up).

Thoughts?

Going off of EP, he has another year left on his contract with SKA. So when comes to KHLers you usually can't get them. As an idea it's fine. He had a good year statistically, but where we would need to him in terms of a cap hit, he could very well be getting more at SKA.


A player who isn't locked in with a contract and could be signed now is Vladimir Tkachev of UFA. That's who I would've looked at, possibly before Mikheyev.

 

[Magic Man]

Just read an article that suggested that we should try to sign Nail Yakupov as the new Tyler Ennis.

Actually, it wouldn’t be a bad idea, imo. The writer said that he would be a great fit for use on the PP. He has a very good one timer, and that is something we could really use.

He’s only 25 yrs. old and has only been out of the NHL for one season. There’s no denying that he has elite skills and perhaps playing with Matthews and getting top PP minutes could reinvent his NHL career?

One of those very low risk/ high reward situations, no? As a bonus, he might be able to be a valuable communicator with the two Russians we just signed recently (if one or both were to crack the line up).

Thoughts?

Based on the stats Grigorenko looks like a better target.

 

[dubplatepressure]

Yes eraser LOL.

Sure, we'd love to get rid of Marleau, but he has a NMC and is in control of his own destiny. Hence, I don't plan on this like its a certainty. Lots of things are possible, but what things are likely.

Getting rid of Zaitsev will be a little easier, but again, don't think the deal will be as sweet as some think I fear.

Its not a question of what we would ideally like to do in my mind. Its more a matter of doing what we may have to do. Some might call this pessimistic. Others might call this being realistic.

Fair, we don't know. However, some would also say that the contract to Marleau was based on a year 3 trade and a handshake deal. There is a reason why he's only getting 1M cash. I don't claim to know better just speculating.

 

[Peace Frog]

Based on the stats Grigorenko looks like a better target.

Yeah, he’s another guy to seriously consider, but I just have a gut feeling that Yakupov would flourish here in Toronto.

 

[Peace Frog]

I also want Dubas to go hard for Nurse in a trade. I know he’s not a RH dman, but I still would love to have him on our back end.

 

[dubplatepressure]

I also want Dubas to go hard for Nurse in a trade. I know he’s not a RH dman, but I still would love to have him on our back end.

I'd say there's no chance without a player on the table we would be uncomfortable giving - in this case Rielly. Edmonton's starved for quality D and Nurse is their blue line mainstay. Won't move unless upgraded.

 

[Peace Frog]

I'd say there's no chance without a player on the table we would be uncomfortable giving - in this case Rielly. Edmonton's starved for quality D and Nurse is their blue line mainstay. Won't move unless upgraded.

Yeah, you’re right..... just wishing out loud.

 

[realgoodleafs]

I know the agent who sold the house. Home is in the Beaches.

He's from Toronto.

 

[Rare Jewel]

I also want Dubas to go hard for Nurse in a trade. I know he’s not a RH dman, but I still would love to have him on our back end.

Would you offer Nylander?

 

[HoweHullOrr]

Fair, we don't know. However, some would also say that the contract to Marleau was based on a year 3 trade and a handshake deal. There is a reason why he's only getting 1M cash. I don't claim to know better just speculating.

PM might have just wanted his cash up front. Lots to like about that.

But, yes I don't know either. We/I can hope for the best, but plan for the worst I suppose.

 

[dubplatepressure]

PM might have just wanted his cash up front. Lots to like about that.

But, yes I don't know either. We/I can hope for the best, but plan for the worst I suppose.

I assume if that was the case, this is likely to be Marleau's last season before retirement. He goes to a team needing veteran leadership like Arizona that's not a cap team, they save $5M in cash and Marleau plays in the sun.