GDT: Free Agency 2019

[TheBloodyNine]

Based on the market, yes.
Their were only 3 teams supposedly in it. And then col/cbj both came in with 12-13 mil offers

In relation to the market, it is a slight bargain

Nothing about this deal is a bargain.

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

But no for real, I'd move mountains to get Aho.

Kakko and Kravstov are untouchable, take your pick of the others.

 

[NYROrtsFan]

It's all about that 2nd line center spot now. If we turn Kreider into a decent option there, things are looking pretty good.

 

[broadwayblue]

With all respect... this sentiment is being misstated all over the place. The rebuild is NOT over... plenty of lesser talents to replace yet with younger stronger talents at the NHL level, and no way all these prospects we are all drooling over meet expectations. THAT said... the rebuild process as of today has absolutely crested. Another 2-3 years ahead of tweaking, adding by subtracting, etc., and moving a piece or two for futures. Easy, fellas. MAYBE playoffs this year, real contention further out.

I mostly agree. Just saying that we are now a team on the rise. We will not be looking at a top 6 pick next June.

 

[NernieBichols]

That context doesn’t fit into his narrative.

That’s why we blow them up. False narratives are easy to blow up

 

[Black Aces]

Good offseason for Edmonton so far.

They’ve bought out one of their better defenseman, drafted a defenseman who is 3-4 years out, and added _____.

Looking for big improvments out of them next year.

I am still bitter we didn't get Zegras because of them. We should send them kreider for their 1st.

 

[haohmaru]

Huh?

Sarcasm

 

[Bacon Artemi Bravo]

Nothing about this deal is a bargain.

We definitely overpaid. The hope going forward is that his production increases along with the salary cap, otherwise this could hurt us.

 

[Thirty One]

Damn Canadian media trying to sell newletters with our supposed "interest" in Trouba and Panarin.

 

[GAGLine]

It's all about that 2nd line center spot now. If we turn Kreider into a decent option there, things are looking pretty good.

We need to turn Kreider into cap space.

 

[effen]

oh we did it. woo

 

[RangerBoy]

Webster needs to buy more than a few warm coats this winter. The New York winters feel like summer compared to Minnesota winters.

 

[LORDE]

Yep, what happened in 1941 is VERY relevant to this signing.

Richards, Gomez, Drury, Redden...

None are applicable because “This time it’s different!”

Again, my point is NONE of us have sheet to say to anyone saying ‘NYR just throw money at every FA”

Because it’s true. We do. Own it

 

[Bacon Artemi Bravo]

What we can hope for now is that the teams that missed out on scoring wingers are now willing to pay more for Kreider. Very legitimate possibility.

 

[NYR Viper]

We have all mentioned this before but Gorton with a season of:

Trade:
Hayes
Zuccarello
Kreider
Pionk
Vesey

Sign/Trade
Lemieux
Trouba
Panarin
Picks/Prospects

The idea of trading players for picks/prospects and then replenishing those spots via UFA is a method this organization has taken a few times.

 

[Lion Hound]

Im assuming it's only a matter of time before one of these actually happens.

Shattenkirk Buyout

Cost Calculations

BUYOUT DATE	BASE SALARY REMAINING	S.BONUS REMAINING	YEARS REMAINING	BUYOUT LENGTH	AGE	BUYOUT RATIO	TOTAL COST	TOTAL SAVINGS	ANNUAL COST
Jun 15, 2019	$8,600,000	$2,000,000	2	4	30	2/3	$5,733,333	$2,866,667	$1,433,333

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Cap Hit Calculations

SEASON	INITIAL BASE SALARY	INITIAL CAP HIT	SIGNING BONUS	BUYOUT COST	POST-BUYOUT EARNINGS	SAVINGS	CAP HIT ( NYR)
2019-20	$6,600,000	$6,650,000	$0	$1,433,333	$1,433,333	$5,166,667	$1,483,333
2020-21	$2,000,000	$6,650,000	$2,000,000	$1,433,333	$3,433,333	$566,667	$6,083,333
2021-22	$0	$0	$0	$1,433,333	$1,433,333	-$1,433,333	$1,433,333
2022-23	$0	$0	$0	$1,433,333	$1,433,333	-$1,433,333	$1,433,333
TOTAL	$8,600,000	$13,300,000	$2,000,000	$5,733,333	$7,733,333	$2,866,667	$10,433,332

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Staal Buyout

Cost Calculations

BUYOUT DATE	BASE SALARY REMAINING	S.BONUS REMAINING	YEARS REMAINING	BUYOUT LENGTH	AGE	BUYOUT RATIO	TOTAL COST	TOTAL SAVINGS	ANNUAL COST
Jun 15, 2019	$7,200,000	$2,000,000	2	4	32	2/3	$4,800,000	$2,400,000	$1,200,000

[TBODY] [/TBODY]
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Cap Hit Calculations

SEASON	INITIAL BASE SALARY	INITIAL CAP HIT	SIGNING BONUS	BUYOUT COST	POST-BUYOUT EARNINGS	SAVINGS	CAP HIT ( NYR)
2019-20	$4,000,000	$5,700,000	$1,000,000	$1,200,000	$2,200,000	$2,800,000	$2,900,000
2020-21	$3,200,000	$5,700,000	$1,000,000	$1,200,000	$2,200,000	$2,000,000	$3,700,000
2021-22	$0	$0	$0	$1,200,000	$1,200,000	-$1,200,000	$1,200,000
2022-23	$0	$0	$0	$1,200,000	$1,200,000	-$1,200,000	$1,200,000
TOTAL	$7,200,000	$11,400,000	$2,000,000	$4,800,000	$6,800,000	$2,400,000	$9,000,000

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Smith Buyout
Cost Calculations

BUYOUT DATE	BASE SALARY REMAINING	S.BONUS REMAINING	YEARS REMAINING	BUYOUT LENGTH	AGE	BUYOUT RATIO	TOTAL COST	TOTAL SAVINGS	ANNUAL COST
Jun 15, 2019	$6,875,000	$1,000,000	2	4	30	2/3	$4,583,333	$2,291,667	$1,145,833

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Cap Hit Calculations

SEASON	INITIAL BASE SALARY	INITIAL CAP HIT	SIGNING BONUS	BUYOUT COST	POST-BUYOUT EARNINGS	SAVINGS	CAP HIT ( NYR)
2019-20	$4,525,000	$4,350,000	$0	$1,145,833	$1,145,833	$3,379,167	$970,833
2020-21	$2,350,000	$4,350,000	$1,000,000	$1,145,833	$2,145,833	$1,204,167	$3,145,833
2021-22	$0	$0	$0	$1,145,833	$1,145,833	-$1,145,833	$1,145,833
2022-23	$0	$0	$0	$1,145,833	$1,145,833	-$1,145,833	$1,145,833
TOTAL	$6,875,000	$8,700,000	$1,000,000	$4,583,333	$5,583,333	$2,291,667	$6,408,332

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[chosen]

Yea, because bringing in a 22 year old center is really comparable to a soon to be 28 year old winger.

Come on.

You can argue for wanting Panarin, but those of us who didn't want him had a very strong case for why it was the wrong signing at the wrong time.

And now it is time to get over it and just enjoy the ride.

 

[Black Aces]

It's all about that 2nd line center spot now. If we turn Kreider into a decent option there, things are looking pretty good.

Absolutely. Also Kreider can be turned into assets to be used to trade up in the draft next year.

 

[Ail]

Webster needs to buy more than a few warm coats this winter. The New York winters feel like summer compared to Minnesota winters.

Webster absolutely BTFO!!!!

 

[effen]

A few days ago, $11 million was too much. Now $11.6 million is a bargain. Ridiculous.

Opinions can and should change in the face of new information. For example, a few years ago, the Oilers were awesome. Then they traded Gretzky. Then they weren't so awesome anymore. See?

 

[mrhockey193195]

Webster needs to buy more than a few warm coats this winter. The New York winters feel like summer compared to Minnesota winters.

I'm thrilled Zucc is in MN, happy to have a local player that I love and can watch often.

 

[NYR Viper]

Assuming Gorton can trade Namestnikov and Kreider, the team probably doesn't need to buyout Smith or Shattenkirk?

 

[chosen]

I never bought into Panarin absolutely breaking down or holding up because of age/NHL tenure, but where is this time machine he used to have the body of a 24 year old because he only played 4 NHL seasons? Did he take a 4 year sabbatical? I get that he hasnt had NHL bodies checking him but that's not the only wear and tear. Strange argument.

One has been an iron man. The other, a tin man.

 

[Kane One]

Richards, Gomez, Drury, Redden...

None are applicable because “This time it’s different!”

Again, my point is NONE of us have sheet to say to anyone saying ‘NYR just throw money at every FA”

Because it’s true. We do. Own it

Yeah, let’s just stop signing top free agents from now on.

 

[NYR Viper]