If he wants the Sharks to be bad, why did he botch the Karlsson trade then?Disagree. Grier WANTS the Sharks to be bad. JK’s Jackets are just bad.
That trade only looks bad on the surface. Every side factor went against him. NMC, high salary, long term, aging player. It was an impossible trade to truly winIf he wants the Sharks to be bad, why did he botch the Karlsson trade then?
It was possible to extract more value by retaining moreThat trade only looks bad on the surface. Every side factor went against him. NMC, high salary, long term, aging player. It was an impossible trade to truly win
Sure, but why didn't he?It was possible to extract more value by retaining more
Ownership didn’t want to pay out for that. They set the ceiling on what Greier was allowed to retain.It was possible to extract more value by retaining more
What did he say about Crosby?Seravelli in the running for worst insider of the year, after his Crosby comments.
Just slammed him for not being there for the all star game draft. Said he gets away with this every year and doesn't get enough criticism for how he doesn't care about the fans etc.What did he say about Crosby?
All irrelevant. He should be judged on the moves he has made so far. Of course it is difficult for outsiders to know how much owners interfere in decisions and how cheap they are.Most Black people and people of color always know we have to be 2x as good to be considered as good as a white man. Grier being there as a "close 2nd" is dumb as bricks.
Like San Jose has had some bad contracts and their rebuild was always going to take time. Are people too dumb to recognize this.
Too early to tell, but the Avs are primed to repeat their cheap approach and make another contending season irrelevant.That’s a pretty wild take. Colorado would be one of the last teams on my list.
How is it irrelevant? You don't think race plays a role with subconscious decisions, like at what aspects has Grier failed, he has the worst starting position I can think of. He was given bloated contract after bloated contract.All irrelevant. He should be judged on the moves he has made so far. Of course it is difficult for outsiders to know how much owners interfere in decisions and how cheap they are.
Isn't most of the Canucks current build from Benning? Guy certainly didn't bat 1.000 on his moves but if you're enjoying the Canucks this season how can you not ease up on the guy?We call this the Jim Benning Award.
He spent to the cap every season, traded away more picks than he received, and finished bottom 5-10 almost every year despite being GM for almost a decade. He had the current core in their prime and wasted some of their years. We were never going to be competitive under him.Isn't most of the Canucks current build from Benning? Guy certainly didn't bat 1.000 on his moves but if you're enjoying the Canucks this season how can you not ease up on the guy?
There is an assumption there that this core could have played better with different moves.He spent to the cap every season, traded away more picks than he received, and finished bottom 5-10 almost every year despite being GM for almost a decade. He had the current core in their prime and wasted some of their years. We were never going to be competitive under him.
Nope
Eriksson 6x6
Beagle and Roussel 3mil x 4 years
Juolevi over Tkachuk
Virtanen over Nylander/Ehlers
9th overall + 2nd for OEL (bought out) and Garland (overpaid on his next contract)
33rd overall (our scouts apparently liked DeBrincat) + McCann (40 goal scorer) for Gudbranson and then signing him to a 4mill x 3 year contract
Forsling for Clendening
Let Tanev and Toffoli walk as UFAs in favour of signing Holtby and Virtanen
2nd round picks for Vey, Baertschi
Sutter trade and unearned huge contract extension
Not trading pending UFAs when the team was eliminated from contention like Hamhuis, Vrbata, Ryan Miller, etc.
A ridiculous amount of 3rd/4th round picks traded for trash (Pedan, Larsen, Dickinson - bought out, etc).
These are just off the top of my head.
I don’t want to re-type out my earlier post on why Benning was one of the worst GMs of the cap era, so I quoted it above. The quote above are just spark notes, he did a stupid amount of damage to this franchise.There is an assumption there that this core could have played better with different moves.
End of the day the team isn't doing as well as they are this year because of Patrick Allvin. It could just be the right fit with the coach, or it could just be the players all finally maturing their game at the same time. Benning definitely made objectively bad moves, but he built a core that is apparently one of the best in the league in spite of that. And this isn't to say that the GM change wasn't a good idea or someone else couldn't have done his job better, it's just to point out that it could have been a whole lot worse.
I think there is an expectation from fans that teams must progress monotonically from rock bottom to Cup winners, but that really isn't borne out by examples. The Canucks have had a fairly typical progression from bottom feeders to plucky upstarts to bubble team with growing pains to contender. The Flames had a very similar story (cut short by losing two core players in one summer of course). Both teams have done better than the Oilers. And on down the list. I'd say most teams experience this same story in some fashion when they rebuild, but everyone wants the Chicago arc.