Value of: Framework of a Auston Matthews trade?

[UglyPuckling]

Matthews wants to remain with Maple Leafs beyond next season | NHL.com

Center's 'intention is to be here,' can become unrestricted free agent after 2023-24

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Of course, he does, because he knows they're likely to give him the biggest contract.

It's great Matthews wants to stay, but if he's asking for 14-15M a season on an 8-year deal, does Toronto pull the trigger...?

It's kind of standard practice for a player in this situation to say something like this. The player and agent wouldn't want to alienate their current team or discourage them from making a lucrative offer. The player can always change his mind later.

 

[seanlinden]

NHL should allow a player to re-sign with his team by June 20th. One year before his contract actually expires. If the player hasn't signed, the team can trade him before July 1st.

Otherwise, an agent and player could do a team dirty by saying they will sign on July 1st. They change their minds. And a team is left with a player who potentially now has a NMC and said player is in control.

The team now has no leverage because other teams now know they can't pick and choose as much.

So what happens if he re-signs on June 21st, and then the Leafs trade him on June 22nd?

If the Leafs wanted to protect the ability to force a "sign or trade" scenario on him, then they should have had his NMC kick in on July 5th or something like that

 

[AvroArrow]

There's only 1 player in the league worth giving 14-15M too and his name isn't Matthews. If that's what he's asking for, as much as it sucks you can't sign him. No team that pays him that much will ever win anything.

 

[Zur En Arrh]

Considering he’s going to be able to block any trades soon, If they plan to trade him, It’s now or never.

Of course they can go the Nylander or Marner Route, But it all depends if AM Signs or not.

I’m just curious about the framework of a Matthews trade might be?

He's not available. He resigns.

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[Zur En Arrh]

The problem is despite recent performance,Matthews is a top tier elite player. Ovie, Crosby or McDavid, Mathews level.

Toronto's goal in a draft pick would be a Austin Mathews....there are not many of those. Even if Bedard was offered you are looking at proven NHL player vs prospective.

I think the Leafs do what it takes to keep him no matter what....there are an awful lot of Mathews Jerseys in Toronto as well. If Matthews gets traded or signs elsewhere Leafs fans are gonna make Montreal fans look like amateur hour and they would be right in doing so.

You don't trade or not re-sign an elite player .....at all costs you build everything around them.

Do we have any indication Matthews wants out of Toronto? I doubt he does because he kind of holds the cards on his next contract amount there.

Stop making sense.. hf wants him out of t.o. bad so they can drool over him.. when names like pajamaboy2 laugh like your post your close to the truth. If you get a "derr u kno watch gamezzz Derr" You're also right on track..

 

[Morbo]

I could see a world where the #2 is moved for matthews…. But no clue how much I’d add to that…. You rarely see a high draft picked move…. And the ones that did end up high draft picks were not expected to be that high

yeah the Leafs are trading a 60 goal Hart winner at age 25 for a draft pick. sure.

 

[Avilaj07]

I really don’t see the point in adding pieces we don’t want or need , so you can add more premium pieces. From both teams perspective. Should really only focus on matthews

Anaheim isn’t trading Mintyukov as he is our biggest hope of having a #1 dmen again. And same for kings and Clarke

I could see a world where the #2 is moved for matthews…. But no clue how much I’d add to that…. You rarely see a high draft picked move…. And the ones that did end up high draft picks were not expected to be that high

And you rarely see a 60 goal mvp moved as well. If you think the ducks or kings aren't willing to trade Mintyukov or Clarke for Matthews then you're off to lunch

 

[CapsFrontOffice]

Stop making sense.. hf wants him out of t.o. bad so they can drool over him.. when names like pajamaboy2 laugh like your post your close to the truth. If you get a "derr u kno watch gamezzz Derr" You're also right on track..

I'd say don't take any of it seriously until pajamaboy1 speaks

 

[Zegs2sendhelp]

And you rarely see a 60 goal mvp moved as well. If you think the ducks or kings aren't willing to trade Mintyukov or Clarke for Matthews then you're off to lunch

Not when you add crap from Toronto to try to get more out of the deals, both were bad for Anaheim and la…. And Toronto won’t get that type of deal for matthews.


I do hope he moves on from Toronto tho…. It’ll be very entertaining

 

[Honey Bear]

Chicago will land him in 2024.

 

[Zetterberg4Captain]

yeah the Leafs are trading a 60 goal Hart winner at age 25 for a draft pick. sure.

IF he was ever dealt the framework will be,

A decent but not exceptional young player
A salary dump
A good but not great prospect
A 1st rd pick not in the top 5 (not top 5 as no rebuilding team would deal for him/he wouldn't sign with a rebuilding team)
A 2nd rd pick or another conditional 1st

Ex LA

Byfield
Arvidsson
Turcotte
1st rd pick
Cond. 1st or 2nd

 

[Najso]

To Seattle:
Auston Matthews

To Toronto:
Jared McCann
Shane Wright
1st round pick 2023

 

[slappipappi]

yeah the Leafs are trading a 60 goal Hart winner at age 25 for a draft pick. sure.

And if he wants $14MM per season?

makes it difficult to trade him or sign him.

 

[Frank Drebin]

I dont think The Habs should or would do this but from The Habs I would expect the deal to look like this....

Habs 1st
Slaf
Guhle

Or

Caufield
Guhle
Fla 1st.


I dont know. maybe im not even close. Its so rare a player the level of Matthews gets traded so knowing the value is hard.....

the f***?

 

[General Fanager]

the f***?

Is that a proper question or...??

 

[Frank Drebin]

Is that a proper question or...??

Yes. Let me rephrase.

What are you thinking? Our first, Guhle, and Caufield are non starters. You have included at least two in each proposal.

 

[General Fanager]

Yes. Let me rephrase.

What are you thinking? Our first, Guhle, and Caufield are non starters. You have included at least two in each proposal.

Well I am thinking that it is for a 25 year old 50ish goal guy and likely top 5 player in the NHl. So as painful as it is, its worth it.

 

[Mike Jones]

I’m just curious about the framework of a Matthews trade might be?

Any team trading for Matthews should be expected to build a package around a core of a 1st round pick; a roster player with a higher than average cap hit; and a tier 1 prospect.

The team trading for Matthews should also be expected to add a couple of pieces like a 2nd round pick, a roster player with a lower cap hit and/or a tier 2 or 3 prospect.

 

[TS Quint]

Stop making sense.. hf wants him out of t.o. bad so they can drool over him.. when names like pajamaboy2 laugh like your post your close to the truth. If you get a "derr u kno watch gamezzz Derr" You're also right on track..

I'm sorry Leafs fans have to go through all of that. It must be really hard on you.

 

[Poppy Whoa Sonnet]

Matthews is not going to Arizona to play in a college arena that seats 5000 people.

A different owner and a brand new arena, then I could possibly see Matthews being interested in Arizona.

That owner's name: Auston Matthews

 

[Frank Drebin]

Well I am thinking that it is for a 25 year old 50ish goal guy and likely top 5 player in the NHl. So as painful as it is, its worth it.

It's not worth it for Matthews, no.

 

[samsagat]

Toronto needs a cultural change.

They're actually stuck with a bunch of talented offensive players that put their own stats at the very top of their priorities.

Matthews being the kingpin in that regard.

They'd need a hearth and soul player that put the team first to show them the way.

They need depth, grit and character. They need a talented young RHD for their top 4.

I would see a fit in LA for A. Matthews.

A. Matthews

For

Danault + Matt Roy + Gabe Vilardi + Brant Clarke + 2024 1st + conditional 2025 2nd


Danault is exactly what the Leafs need comes the playoff, a centrer that does all the little things a coach wants, even more so in the playoffs: eat the toughest minutes against the best opposite players with positive results, win faceoffs, put team success first.

Vilardi is a big local boy.

Clarke is a talented young RHD. OHL product.

Matt Roy is a big, gritty and tough defenseman to play against. Custom made for the playoffs.

Danault, Roy and Vilardi salaries would facilitate the trade.

 

[General Fanager]

It's not worth it for Matthews, no.

Maybe, maybe not.

but in this whole thread you are the only one to reply to me so I cant be far off OR I am so far off no one replies to me

 

[Frank Drebin]

Maybe, maybe not.

but in this whole thread you are the only one to reply to me so I cant be far off OR I am so far off no one replies to me

Yeah it's surprising that no one replied. Anyway I give you credit for putting together an honest offer but I would not be happy parting with 2/3 of Caufield, guhle and our 1st this year for Matthews.

I'm not a huge fan of his if I'm being completely honest. If we're taking a McDavid, Makar, MacKinnon, extended Draisatl then yeah. But not Matthews. I guess it depends on how you view the player

 

[General Fanager]

Yeah it's surprising that no one replied. Anyway I give you credit for putting together an honest offer but I would not be happy parting with 2/3 of Caufield, guhle and our 1st this year for Matthews.

I'm not a huge fan of his if I'm being completely honest. If we're taking a McDavid, Makar, MacKinnon, extended Draisatl then yeah. But not Matthews. I guess it depends on how you view the player

I did also mention in another post that this was for a full extended Matthews