Former Canucks Thread 2023-24 Off-Season Edition

vadim sharifijanov

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To me it's basically the same player. Kesler never did 41 again. Can Miller continue to play Selke level defence from the middle?

jt has certainly upped his defensive game and kes did have a two year offensive spike.

but to me they are different kinds of two-way players. one is a primarily offensive guy who is very strong defensively and the other was the best defensive center in the world put in a position to score at the absolute ceiling of his physical abilities.

what’s bigger: the distance between 9th in pts twice and 15th and 22nd in back to back years, or the sizeable defensive gap?

but maybe the answer lies in miller only getting five (out of 194) selke votes, while kesler appeared on more than three times the amount of hart ballots (out of 126).
 

VanJack

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Dylan Guenther with two goals in the opener tonight against Chicago. I know he doesn't technically qualify as an 'ex Canuck'.......but he was the ninth overall pick in the 2021 entry draft, traded by Vancouver to Arizona in the disastrous OEL trade.

Can you imagine what he'd bring to the Canucks right now?.....@#!#@$% Benning!
 
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Jyrki21

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Dylan Guenther with two goals in the opener tonight against Chicago. I know he doesn't technically qualify as an 'ex Canuck'.......but he was the ninth overall pick in the 2021 entry draft, traded by Vancouver to Arizona in the disastrous OEL trade.

Can you imagine what he'd bring to the Canucks right now?.....@#!#@$% Benning!
I keep seeing "they wouldn't have drafted him anyhow" as a "defense" of Benning on Twitter ("we were bad at identifying talent anyhow" shouldn't be much of a defense), but... is this actually true?

At the time I know he was the guy everyone was talking about as likely to be in the Canucks' slot. I know that draft was wonky to begin with, but he was definitely the name I was hearing most about going in.
 

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It was a wonky draft. The OHL kids didn't play. We were talking about MacTavish as an option and he went 3rd. As for D, after Clarke, there wasn't a Dman taken til 25/26 with Ceulsmans and Lambos.
 

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As Travis Green is set to begin his coaching career here in Ottawa, I think back to a prediction that @MS made at the start of the 2017-18 season, when Green scratched Brock Boeser for the first two games of the season -- a season in which the rookie Boeser would go on to be the team's best and most dynamic player. He suggested it would probably end up being the most memorable moment of Green's Canuck coaching career.

I think he was right?

I guess if not, maybe the lockdown in the 2020 bubble playoffs against Vegas?

(Side note, if Boeser has those two more games to his name before being injured that year, there's a decent chance he would have hit his 30th in that rookie season and saved many years of fan angst about achieving a round number).
 

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Hiding under WTG's bed...
I keep seeing "they wouldn't have drafted him anyhow" as a "defense" of Benning on Twitter ("we were bad at identifying talent anyhow" shouldn't be much of a defense), but... is this actually true?

At the time I know he was the guy everyone was talking about as likely to be in the Canucks' slot. I know that draft was wonky to begin with, but he was definitely the name I was hearing most about going in.

In Delorme's defense, he was in Sweden scouting.:sarcasm:
 

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I keep seeing "they wouldn't have drafted him anyhow" as a "defense" of Benning on Twitter ("we were bad at identifying talent anyhow" shouldn't be much of a defense), but... is this actually true?

At the time I know he was the guy everyone was talking about as likely to be in the Canucks' slot. I know that draft was wonky to begin with, but he was definitely the name I was hearing most about going in.

I think there was enough smoke there. Pre-Draft, the Canucks were reportedly targeted Cs and Ds (which I think was reasonable in that draft). Hughes, Clarke, Johnson, and McTavish (no idea on order) were the reported targets. Sillinger was another heavily reported name. Then after the trade the immediate reporting was that the Canucks made the trade knowing their draft targets would be gone (which were the above mentioned names minus Sillinger).

And this isn't hindsight. I've been repeatedly saying the same thing over the years.

As for pre-draft discussion on Guenther I recall those that liked him thought he would be gone by our slot. Those who didn't had others ahead of him. I recall there being a lot more discussions on Johnson, McTavish and Hughes.
 

PavelBure10

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I know he was too expensive and I understand the circumstances, but I dearly miss Zadorov. He would of been my first priority over Myers.
The big Z brought in physical elements to the Canucks game that I haven't seen in years.

I miss him greatly :(
 

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As Travis Green is set to begin his coaching career here in Ottawa, I think back to a prediction that @MS made at the start of the 2017-18 season, when Green scratched Brock Boeser for the first two games of the season -- a season in which the rookie Boeser would go on to be the team's best and most dynamic player. He suggested it would probably end up being the most memorable moment of Green's Canuck coaching career.

I think he was right?

I guess if not, maybe the lockdown in the 2020 bubble playoffs against Vegas?

(Side note, if Boeser has those two more games to his name before being injured that year, there's a decent chance he would have hit his 30th in that rookie season and saved many years of fan angst about achieving a round number).
how about him starting edler pp1 and having hughes pp2 :laugh:
 
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wetcoast

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This has to be the career high for Aidan Mcdonough tonight with a hatty, first star and 7 SOG?
 

Peen

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I went back and watched the clip and it wasn’t an egregious error, or even an error depending on how the players are instructed to cover for each other

Torts insnae
 

David71

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would u have resigned oel when he was A UFA and he be 2nd pairing right now and he still be on the payroll but at a discount price example 1-2yrs 3.5 instead.
 

HairyKneel

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would u have resigned oel when he was A UFA and he be 2nd pairing right now and he still be on the payroll but at a discount price example 1-2yrs 3.5 instead.
He wasn't coming back here. I don't think he's any better than Soucy. He is a damn sight better than anyone on the third pairing though.
 

HairyKneel

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hes better than soucy. oel=over any third pairing guys.
He's better offensively than CS. He sure isn't better in his own zone. He can't PK very effectively and there was no way he was going to play for Tocchet a third time. 3.5 million is expensive to pay for a # 5 guy.
 
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