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I was ready for the Carr and developmental QB drafted in 23 or 24 approach. Let JD keep drafting studs in the 1st round until the team is a legit threat. The entire OL is a giant ? and the defense was overrated. Plus many vets we have are on short/cuttable contracts. I don't want to go all in, give up premium picks, then be back to square one with less talent a year or two from now.
 
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Hunter Gathers said:
Lmao, the Packers would tell you to f*** off and rightfully so.

They'd hold onto Rodgers just to spite him and the Jets if that was offered.
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I hear ya, but guy is like 38 years old, so much chance things go wrong, not even get 2 good yrs outta him

Gotta pay commensurate w/what is received after the fact
 
bernmeister said:
I hear ya, but guy is like 38 years old, so much chance things go wrong, not even get 2 good yrs outta him

Gotta pay commensurate w/what is received after the fact
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What you're offering is basically what you'd trade for a camp body, though. This is a legitimate starting QB. You have leverage, but nowhere near THAT kind of leverage. I can't see the Jets trading a 1st rounder, but at least one 2nd rounder will be moved.
 
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Hunter Gathers said:
What you're offering is basically what you'd trade for a camp body, though. This is a legitimate starting QB. You have leverage, but nowhere near THAT kind of leverage. I can't see the Jets trading a 1st rounder, but at least one 2nd rounder will be moved.
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the dynamic in football is dif b'c cap is real but not always as hard, some loopholes, not all salary guaranteed.

So they are playing w/fire but there is less chance of getting burned

But that said:
AR is a head case + bring baggage
if he goes down we're effed.

Now obv any QB incl a younger one can go down too.
But I'd rather a decent++ younger guy w/great improved OL and if he goes down, we have assets not spent in reserve contingency.

Overpaying depletes resources --- am I wrong on that?
And while I hope we get lucky, if we don't, well......
 
Hunter Gathers said:
What you're offering is basically what you'd trade for a camp body, though. This is a legitimate starting QB. You have leverage, but nowhere near THAT kind of leverage. I can't see the Jets trading a 1st rounder, but at least one 2nd rounder will be moved.
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Yeah I think it's going to be a 2nd and a conditional pick but how to figure out the conditions with all the moving parts. For reference favre was the same age when he came to the jets coming of a 13-3 4000 yard 28 TD season and he cost a 3rd.
 
The rumors have been that the deal will be a second this year and next year.

Howver the two hanguos are.

1. Jets want assurances (ie draft picks) if Rodgers retired after 1 season. As 2 second round picks is then overpayment.
2. Packers want escalator in case Rodgers has a great year. Like the second next year becomes a first if Jets make AFC champtionship.

I think a fair compromise would be
1. Packers get first if Jets make superbowl
2. Jets get a 3rd if Rodgers retires at year end and they dont make AFC championship.
 
I Eat Crow said:
I hope Schoen doesn't cave. There's no chance I'd pay him long term with his injury history.
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I think Barkley was probably seeking $14-$15 a year for 3-4 years. I suspect Schoen offered $12.5 a year for 3 years during the bye week. Barkley did not take Schoen's original offer. Now with the RB market the way it is Barkley may be lucky to get $12.5 a year for 2 years.
 
When Wilson and Lance were drafted I wrote "Neither has started for 2 years at a top 25 program and both have have zero chance of success".
 
sbjnyc said:
What are the top 25 programs so we can judge all QBs by that standard?
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Trey Lance started 17 games at N. Dakota State. Zach Wilson started 28 games at BYU. The top 25 is the top 25. Google is your friend. I've never seen a positive post from you. Why are you so miserable?
 
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