Confirmed with Link: Flyers trade Cutter Gauthier to Anaheim for Jamie Drysdale and 2025 2nd round pick

[GKJ]

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[Beef Invictus]

Show me examples of returns for salary dumps over the last season, not 2-3 years ago when teams were cap constrained?

Dumping Laine cost CBJ a 2nd rd pick, but he has a $8.7Mx2 cap hit.

That's about the only "pure' dump I could find the last year or so, most dumps now are part of deals to balance out cap hits, because with a rising cap teams are no longer desperate to clear cap.

Peterson and Johansen were probably worth a 3rd at most as cap dumps.
With a flat cap, Ghost and Stralman cost a 2nd to dump with similar cap hits.
No one is giving up a 1st to dump salary anymore.

My sinuses are way, way too clogged to show you the information you've already been shown numerous times by now. It's not worth it to hunt down and give you data when you aren't going to use it and the only information point you care about it "what did the Flyers do?" followed by unquestioned acceptance of whatever they did as the best possible choice; or decreeing they had no choice somehow.

Truly no team in sports has less agency than the Flyers.

 

[CerpinTaxt]

My sinuses are way, way too clogged to show you the information you've already been shown numerous times by now. It's not worth it to hunt down and give you data when you aren't going to use it and the only information point you care about it "what did the Flyers do?" followed by unquestioned acceptance of whatever they did as the best possible choice; or decreeing they had no choice somehow.

Truly no team in sports has less agency than the Flyers.

Of teams who have won a Stanley cup I believe the Flyers have the 2nd longest drought after the Leafs but f*** the Leafs. At least Toronto has been to the playoffs a lot more recently and would probably win one first before the Flyers could given current rosters

 

[Starat327]

Yall in here really dealing with this dude like it's anything but the below....smhmh

 

[Rebels57]

Yall in here really dealing with this dude like it's anything but the below....smhmh View attachment 925254

For at least 10 years. It's actually sad.

 

[SolidSnakeUS]

Going into today's game...

 

[CutOnDime97]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1856039127369609642

 

[Fight4yourRight]

Oft-injured and a terrible player. Briere did so well in getting premium assets.

 

[SolidSnakeUS]

Oft-injured and a terrible player. Briere did so well in getting premium assets.

Torts wanted this guy. This is specifically someone he wanted and vouched to Briere for.

 

[renberg]

Torts wanted this guy. This is specifically someone he wanted and vouched to Briere for.

Not disagreeing but any evidence to support Tortorella wanting him? I thought that it was someone else.

 

[Striiker]

Drysdale has no value and we still won this trade.

That’s how shit Gauthier and the Flyers drafting is

 

[deadhead]

Maybe the 2nd rd pick will end up the best asset in this trade.

 

[Magua]

Their ass backwards evaluating can be summarized in calling Drysdale a "rover," with now 8 points in 39 games while playing every game on PP1, and saying that arguably the worst defenseman in the NHL this season has top pair upside a mere 39 games ago. You don't get to be that wrong that quickly, while having data already for a player on his 2nd contract, and make me care what you have to think the next time. Besides, we're already past the next time: that was June 28th, 2024.

I'll reiterate: if finishing 13th worst and drafting Patrick, future events unforeseen, was a franchise crippling mistake, as said by the Chuck Fletcher Truthers, then what is finishing 4th worst and ending up with Drysdale, a known quantity? An inconvenience? Draft disappointments happen, usually years down the line. This is not a garden variety bust. Their decision making had to fail at levels including: amateur scouting, professional scouting, statistical analysis, asset valuation, trade timeliness, managerial delegating, front office discipline. What haven't we learned from this trade?

 

[Shrike]

Going into today's game...

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Where’s Chris Vande Velde? Brandon Manning? Andrew MacDonald? Fixtures on this list if I recall correctly

 

[deadhead]

Their ass backwards evaluating can be summarized in calling Drysdale a "rover," with now 8 points in 39 games while playing every game on PP1, and saying that arguably the worst defenseman in the NHL this season has top pair upside a mere 39 games ago. You don't get to be that wrong that quickly, while having data already for a player on his 2nd contract, and make me care what you have to think the next time. Besides, we're already past the next time: that was June 28th, 2024.

I'll reiterate: if finishing 13th worst and drafting Patrick, future events unforeseen, was a franchise crippling mistake, as said by the Chuck Fletcher Truthers, then what is finishing 4th worst and ending up with Drysdale, a known quantity? An inconvenience? Draft disappointments happen, usually years down the line. This is not a garden variety bust. Their decision making had to fail at levels including: amateur scouting, professional scouting, statistical analysis, asset valuation, trade timeliness, managerial delegating, front office discipline. What haven't we learned from this trade?

Or maybe no one wanted to give them a better deal than Carolina got for Fox?
I haven't seen many names mentioned, Rossi in the summer when he was an undersized center coming off 1 apple in 19 games. Bryam, also damaged goods.
At least with Drysdale they got a high 2nd rd pick.

 

[Beef Invictus]

Or maybe no one wanted to give them a better deal than Carolina got for Fox?
I haven't seen many names mentioned, Rossi in the summer when he was an undersized center coming off 1 apple in 19 games. Bryam, also damaged goods.
At least with Drysdale they got a high 2nd rd pick.

The simplest explanation is that a management group famous for burning value at every turn trained the new guy from the ground up to do that exact same thing.

Sure seems like they need to fire everyone and start from scratch, and every day they put it off is another day of Michkov's future prime wasted.

 

[Magua]

Or maybe no one wanted to give them a better deal than Carolina got for Fox?
I haven't seen many names mentioned, Rossi in the summer when he was an undersized center coming off 1 apple in 19 games. Bryam, also damaged goods.
At least with Drysdale they got a high 2nd rd pick.

Adam Fox! It's too early for Groundhog Day, man. I've addressed this 15 times. I won't address it again.

 

[Lord Defect]

Their ass backwards evaluating can be summarized in calling Drysdale a "rover," with now 8 points in 39 games while playing every game on PP1, and saying that arguably the worst defenseman in the NHL this season has top pair upside a mere 39 games ago. You don't get to be that wrong that quickly, while having data already for a player on his 2nd contract, and make me care what you have to think the next time. Besides, we're already past the next time: that was June 28th, 2024.

I'll reiterate: if finishing 13th worst and drafting Patrick, future events unforeseen, was a franchise crippling mistake, as said by the Chuck Fletcher Truthers, then what is finishing 4th worst and ending up with Drysdale, a known quantity? An inconvenience? Draft disappointments happen, usually years down the line. This is not a garden variety bust. Their decision making had to fail at levels including: amateur scouting, professional scouting, statistical analysis, asset valuation, trade timeliness, managerial delegating, front office discipline. What haven't we learned from this trade?

It does he have his adenoids?

 

[Lord Defect]

It does he have his adenoids?

But not it*

 

[JojoTheWhale]

Yes, no one wanted to trade for the highly regarded prospect who hadn't even started his ELC. We know this because Aaron Portzline didn't beam a message into my brain about Kent Johnson.

 

[deadhead]

Yes, no one wanted to trade for the highly regarded prospect who hadn't even started his ELC. We know this because Aaron Portzline didn't beam a message into my brain about Kent Johnson.

So where's the rumored package of 1st rd pick and B+ prospect they turned down?
Haven't heard hide or hare.
Can't imagine they went 8 months and no rumors of the great package they rejected in favor of Drysdale.

Sometimes life just sucks.

 

[JojoTheWhale]

So where's the rumored package of 1st rd pick and B+ prospect they turned down?
Haven't heard hide or hare.
Can't imagine they went 8 months and no rumors of the great package they rejected in favor of Drysdale.

Sometimes life just sucks.

Right. We know every detail of every trade negotiation ever. Excellent point.

 

[ajgoal]

Right. We know every detail of every trade negotiation ever. Excellent point.

Your sanity, my friend. Maintain it.

 

[Starat327]

Your sanity, my friend. Maintain it.

Imagine thinking Jojo had sanity left after his casino gig.

 

[ajgoal]

Imagine thinking Jojo had sanity left after his casino gig.

If he's insane, I'd hate to think what they'd classify my RV-living ass as.

 

[JojoTheWhale]

Imagine thinking Jojo had sanity left after his casinoo gig.

80 hour weeks plus grad school 2 hours away. You can't hurt me anymore.