Confirmed with Link: Flyers trade Cutter Gauthier to Anaheim for Jamie Drysdale and 2025 2nd round pick

[GKJ]

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[deadhead]

Now it was clear he was a LW. This is our "Expected by whom?" moment.

If I remember correctly, the question with Gauither was always whether he'd remain at center or have to play LW. What made him a "safe" pick was his floor was probably a 30 goal LW.

I think one reason the Flyers weren't desperate to sign him after his freshman year was he didn't show a lot at center and without a big jump, was going to play LW in the NHL. He definitely needed the 2nd year in college and would probably have sulked if sent to the AHL.

 

[Beef Invictus]

Fletcher’s grandkids are going to be getting toothbrushes, and floss when they swing by the Flahr residence for Halloween.

Floss is mint flavored, no chance Flahr won't eat it before handing it out.

 

[Beef Invictus]

If I remember correctly, the question with Gauither was always whether he'd remain at center or have to play LW. What made him a "safe" pick was his floor was probably a 30 goal LW.

I think one reason the Flyers weren't desperate to sign him after his freshman year was he didn't show a lot at center and without a big jump, was going to play LW in the NHL. He definitely needed the 2nd year in college and would probably have sulked if sent to the AHL.

His floor was never 30 goal LW. Never, ever. Not then, not now, and the fact that amateur dorks on the internet are better at seeing that than the Flyers is why the Flyers are always terrible with no light at the end of the tunnel.

Having him do enough in college to be overvalued, having the chance to turn him into a much better prospect, and deliberately chasing an Eakins-ruined Drysdale who has the operational efficiency of an exploding runaway diesel is a worse whiff and failure than the initial pick.

 

[Rebels57]

Didn't a publication rank Gauthier as a better prospect than Michkov earlier this year? f***ing hilarious.

edit: of course it was Button

Cutter Gauthier, Alexander Nikishin lead Craig Button’s top 50 NHL-affiliated prospects list | TSN

Cutter Gauthier was in the midst of some controversy this season, but there's nothing controversial about Craig Button ranking him at No. 1.

www.tsn.ca

 

[CutOnDime97]

Didn't a publication rank Gauthier as a better prospect than Michkov earlier this year? f***ing hilarious.

edit: of course it was Button

Cutter Gauthier, Alexander Nikishin lead Craig Button’s top 50 NHL-affiliated prospects list | TSN

Cutter Gauthier was in the midst of some controversy this season, but there's nothing controversial about Craig Button ranking him at No. 1.

www.tsn.ca

What the hell are those rankings

 

[blackjackmulligan]

If I remember correctly, the question with Gauither was always whether he'd remain at center or have to play LW. What made him a "safe" pick was his floor was probably a 30 goal LW.

I think one reason the Flyers weren't desperate to sign him after his freshman year was he didn't show a lot at center and without a big jump, was going to play LW in the NHL. He definitely needed the 2nd year in college and would probably have sulked if sent to the AHL.

Pure speculation to push a narrative.

 

[Embiid]

Floss is mint flavored, no chance Flahr won't eat it before handing it out.

"Feltcher" is going to drink mouthwash runoff from Flahr's ass crack....chocolate mint flavored.

 

[kudymen]

double

 

[kudymen]

Lolz. Fetching some data from nhl.com/stats. Forward since 2000-2001. 25 years

In this time span, 265 forwards reached a >= 30 goal mark in at least one season.
In this time span, 166 wingers reached a >= 30 goal mark in at least one season.
In this time span, 79 left wingers reached a >= 30 goal mark in at least one season.

There were on average 31 forwards per season to reach >= 30 goal mark.
There were on average 20 wingers per season to reach >= 30 goal mark.
There were on average 10 left wingers per season to reach >= 30 goal mark.

163 forwards / 100 wingers / 47 left wingers reached said goal mark in more than one season in said time span.
And that was his floor? F that

 

[freakydallas13]

If I remember correctly, the question with Gauither was always whether he'd remain at center or have to play LW. What made him a "safe" pick was his floor was probably a 30 goal LW.

I think one reason the Flyers weren't desperate to sign him after his freshman year was he didn't show a lot at center and without a big jump, was going to play LW in the NHL. He definitely needed the 2nd year in college and would probably have sulked if sent to the AHL.

I don't know why you keep saying his floor is a 30 goal left wing, but I can assure Gauthier's floor is much lower than that.

 

[trostol]

Honestly who cares about Cutter...he isn't a Flyers so he is an after thought...just ends up we got damaged and not goods for him because the Flyers just had to trade him then and there

 

[Larry44]

Speaking of guys who forced there way out of their draft teams, Where's Rutger? LOL, I LOVE the Jets fans for this: Rutger McGroarty taunted by Jets fans with hilarious chant

 

[Curufinwe]

Well we know Flyer fans are unlikely to be chanting "Jamie's better". Drysdale will probably be -25 by January.

 

[Larry44]

Well we know Flyer fans are unlikely to be chanting "Jamie's better". Drysdale will probably be -25 by January.

But, I thought we didn't need a #1D stud like Buium because we have small D like Drysdale, York and Andrae already?

Note that ALL of the Flyers are minuses so far, except Deslaurier-Poehling-Hathaway! LOL!

Philadelphia Flyers Club Stats | 2024 - 2025 | Philadelphia Flyers

 

[thedjpd]

Well we know Flyer fans are unlikely to be chanting "Jamie's better". Drysdale will probably be -25 by January.

I get the pile on the org and Drysdale, but he put up 30 plus points in the NHL at 18 years old. Everybody here is projecting Buium as some Norris caliber D, forgetting that at 18 Drysdale was viewed similarly, if not better. Buium can just as easily suffer injuries or struggle in a much tougher league until he’s 24. In fact, it’s likely.

 

[NYCFlyer]

But, I thought we didn't need a #1D stud like Buium because we have small D like Drysdale, York and Andrae already?

Note that ALL of the Flyers are minuses so far, except Deslaurier-Poehling-Hathaway! LOL!

Philadelphia Flyers Club Stats | 2024 - 2025 | Philadelphia Flyers

Everyone needs a 1D stud even if they have one but arent we really getting ahead of ourselves with him being that. I live in Denver and have caught a few of his games. He is really good but plays on a team that is materally better than most of their opponents. Additionally he is going to a team that is waay better than anything Drysdale or York have ever played on as pros. Finally given the gigantic organizational whole at center and the KO drama, to me it seems like passing on him was an easy choice.

I know this sounds weird but Drysdale reminds me of the Dman equivalent of TK. He is all over the place, never seeming to be where he is supposed to and makes a lot of bone headed plays but does have undeniable skills. And of course Dman is a much tougher position than wing plus the injuries. I'm willing to be patient and hope Shaw can teach him how to play better.

 

[deadhead]

I think if Dickinson fell, they would have jumped on him.
More of the prototype 1D, and a perfect pairing with Bonk.

Luchanko is probably their prototype top 6 center, full sized, elite speed, two way player who can cover for scoring wings with defensive issues. I think next season you'll see Luchanko and Michkov joined at the hip.

Ideally, they land another top six center in the 2025 draft, make Frost the 3C (if they keep him) and move Couts to LW in a couple years.

 

[FLYguy3911]

Copium.

Forget equivalents, I think I would rather take my chances with TK actually playing defense over Drysdale. That’s how bad it’s been.

And no, Buium was a much better and more accomplished prospect than Drysdale entering the draft. Yes he played on a stacked team, but he led the country in TOI as a draft eligible defenseman. They were stacked in large part because of his impacts (especially in the playoffs).

Oh and he scored more per game in college hockey as a defenseman than the player they picked in the first round as a 1C in the OHL. In no way shape or form was that an “easy choice”.

 

[blackjackmulligan]

Any chance JD can even be a Steve Duchesne like guy? Ives Racine? Probably Greg Hawgood!!!

I think if Dickinson fell, they would have jumped on him.
More of the prototype 1D, and a perfect pairing with Bonk.

Luchanko is probably their prototype top 6 center, full sized, elite speed, two way player who can cover for scoring wings with defensive issues. I think next season you'll see Luchanko and Michkov joined at the hip.

Ideally, they land another top six center in the 2025 draft, make Frost the 3C (if they keep him) and move Couts to LW in a couple years.

When did they land the first one?

 

[Embiid]

Any chance JD can even be a Steve Duchesne like guy? Ives Racine? Probably Greg Hawgood!!!

Kevin Haller...

 

[blackjackmulligan]

Kevin Haller...

Haller was very solid. Only if JD can become solid.

 

[Embiid]

Haller was very solid. Only if JD can become solid.

Seeing a trend here that previous D men on the Flyers that were mostly serviceable and not needle movers were still better than what Drysdale has shown so far in his short and oft injured career. Even Ryan Parent had a least one good playoff stint with the Flyers until his back forced him to retire...

 

[deadhead]

Let's see what Shaw can do with Drysdale.
Anaheim makes the Flyers look competent the last decade.

Zegras (#9) regressed, Lundestrom, Max Jones and Larson (all 1st rd picks) never developed, Steel (1st rd) played better after he left. McTavish (#3) hasn't developed past 3rd line forward. Jacob Perreault is a flop.
Terry (5th rd) did emerge as a top forward at age 24.
Comtois (2nd rd) had a good season at 22, then went backwards.

They're awful at drafting and/or they're awful at development.

 

[flyersnorth]

I think if Dickinson fell, they would have jumped on him.
More of the prototype 1D, and a perfect pairing with Bonk.

Bonk doesn't project as a top pairing defenseman. Every scouting report I've seen had him as a top 4 (one had him as bottom pairing) and that he doesn't have any particular skills that stand out, but was the "safest" defensive pick in the 1st round.

Of course, he can always develop and become a top pairing defenseman over time. But nothing to date says that it is a likely outcome.

 

[blackjackmulligan]

Let's see what Shaw can do with Drysdale.
Anaheim makes the Flyers look competent the last decade.

Zegras (#9) regressed, Lundestrom, Max Jones and Larson (all 1st rd picks) never developed, Steel (1st rd) played better after he left. McTavish (#3) hasn't developed past 3rd line forward. Jacob Perreault is a flop.
Terry (5th rd) did emerge as a top forward at age 24.
Comtois (2nd rd) had a good season at 22, then went backwards.

They're awful at drafting and/or they're awful at development.

The good ole Shaw angle.