Confirmed with Link: Flyers trade Cutter Gauthier to Anaheim for Jamie Drysdale and 2025 2nd round pick

[GKJ]

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[Gregor Samsa]

I think there are two ways of judging a trade and both need to be taken into account- the trade at the time it was made, and when everything has played out. If Flyers traded TK for a 3rd round pick we’d all rightly say that was a horrible deal and we lost, but if that 3rd round pick turned into a 100pt player who won awards, people in the future would call this a clear win for us. Sometimes winning trades involves luck. Right now, the Drysdale acquisition seems great, but only time will tell. If he has a career ending injury this year I’d be hesitant to call it a bad trade; more like bad luck, or bad results

 

[FLYguy3911]

If Flyers traded TK for a 3rd round pick we’d all rightly say that was a horrible deal and we lost, but if that 3rd round pick turned into a 100pt player who won awards, people in the future would call this a clear win for us.

This is the absolute worst way to views trades.

 

[Jettany]

It so sucks how that Lindros transaction ultimately manifested itself. Effin Quebec was pretty much insistent on us including Forsberg. Wonder if we would have traded Jagr to them vs Ricci if we had drafted Jags instead?

As I remember they wanted Brindy. The flyers needed to ice NHL players. Forsberg told them he was staying in Sweden for 1 or 2 years if I remember correctly.

 

[BritainStix]

As I remember they wanted Brindy. The flyers needed to ice NHL players. Forsberg told them he was staying in Sweden for 1 or 2 years if I remember correctly.

They absolutely wanted Forsberg and refused any deal that he wasn't included in. All of their scouts were sold very high on him.

 

[Embiid]

As I remember they wanted Brindy. The flyers needed to ice NHL players. Forsberg told them he was staying in Sweden for 1 or 2 years if I remember correctly.

I thought I remember the same but then saw something somewhere where they did want Forsberg and Inge Hammarstrom who scouted Peter was pretty distraught when the Flyers included him in the trade.

 

[Jettany]

I thought I remember the same but then saw something somewhere where they did want Forsberg and Inge Hammarstrom who scouted Peter was pretty distraught when the Flyers included him in the trade.

Among the original players that the Nordiques wanted, were Mike Ricci, Rod Brind'Amour, Ron Hextall, Steve Duchesne, Kerry Huffman, three first-round picks, and one of two prospects — either Peter Forsberg or Vyacheslav Butsayev…a clip from the atlantic.

 

[Embiid]

Among the original players that the Nordiques wanted, were Mike Ricci, Rod Brind'Amour, Ron Hextall, Steve Duchesne, Kerry Huffman, three first-round picks, and one of two prospects — either Peter Forsberg or Vyacheslav Butsayev…a clip from the atlantic.

Yeah I know...but there were more recent reports that said Quebec wouldn't do the trade unless we included Forsberg.

 

[Jettany]

I thought I remember the same but then saw something somewhere where they did want Forsberg and Inge Hammarstrom who scouted Peter was pretty distraught when the Flyers included him in the trade.

From Page on Forsberg…

“We saw him play when he was 18 and he was five foot eleven, one hundred sixty-five pounds. He was not fast, not slow, but he was skilled and gritty. Anyone who says he was going to be a superstar is lying. He was good, but he was not above average fast. He was just nasty, gritty, and skilled. Then, a year and a half later, he’s six foot one, two inches taller and twenty-five pounds bigger, and faster, which is unusual. We hit the jackpot. We knew he was good. Inge Hammarstrom, who was a Flyers scout, has said he wouldn’t have done the deal one-for-one for Lindros. To be honest, at that time, Lindros was way, way better. Peter got better and better, become a two-way player. He was the best player in the NHL at one time, according to Glen Sather.”

 

[BritainStix]

Yeah I know...but there were more recent reports that said Quebec wouldn't do the trade unless we included Forsberg.

I have 100% seen this written down somewhere.

 

[Embiid]

From Page on Forsberg…

“We saw him play when he was 18 and he was five foot eleven, one hundred sixty-five pounds. He was not fast, not slow, but he was skilled and gritty. Anyone who says he was going to be a superstar is lying. He was good, but he was not above average fast. He was just nasty, gritty, and skilled. Then, a year and a half later, he’s six foot one, two inches taller and twenty-five pounds bigger, and faster, which is unusual. We hit the jackpot. We knew he was good. Inge Hammarstrom, who was a Flyers scout, has said he wouldn’t have done the deal one-for-one for Lindros. To be honest, at that time, Lindros was way, way better. Peter got better and better, become a two-way player. He was the best player in the NHL at one time, according to Glen Sather.”

I am not sure when Aubut changed his mind on the original offer and wanted Forsberg.....the dude was a duplicitous prick. Double dealed with the Rangers and balked at our picks of Sittler and Bowen which were made in haste when he backed out. We had to change up the offer and gave him other picks which wound up being Thibault and Chris Simon. This is why the original offer isn't the fully correct narrative.

 

[Embiid]

I have 100% seen this written down somewhere.

Yeah I recall it too bc I always thought we just threw him in the mix unwittingly. Yes, he was underrated bc of his size etc but not by Hammarstrom who viewed him a steal.

 

[Jettany]

I am not sure when Aubut changed his mind on the original offer and wanted Forsberg.....the dude was a duplicitous prick. Double dealed with the Rangers and balked at our picks of Sittler and Bowen which were made in haste when he backed out. We had to change up the offer and gave him other picks which wound up being Thibault and Chris Simon. This is why the original offer isn't the fully correct narrative.

That quote from Page seems to be how they felt about Forsberg right after the trade.

 

[Embiid]

That quote from Page seems to be how they felt about Forsberg right after the trade.

Somebody will set the record straight. I just seem to recall a convincing report later that said Quebec did want Forsberg. Hilarious if they took Butsayev instead....but they got the last laugh...at least Colorado did.

 

[Terrier]

Flyers fans upset with Cutter Gauthier may want to remember how their team once acquired Eric Lindros - The Boston Globe

Lindros, chosen No. 1 by the Nordiques in the 1991 draft, refused to play for Quebec and ultimately helped engineer his trade to Philadelphia the following June.

www.bostonglobe.com

 

[FLYguy3911]

Thanks?

 

[Flyer lurker]

I think there are two ways of judging a trade and both need to be taken into account- the trade at the time it was made, and when everything has played out. If Flyers traded TK for a 3rd round pick we’d all rightly say that was a horrible deal and we lost, but if that 3rd round pick turned into a 100pt player who won awards, people in the future would call this a clear win for us. Sometimes winning trades involves luck. Right now, the Drysdale acquisition seems great, but only time will tell. If he has a career ending injury this year I’d be hesitant to call it a bad trade; more like bad luck, or bad results

It was equally just as bad a trade when the flyers traded for adam oates and the picks failed then when the flyers traded a 1 for Steve Emminger and the pick turned out to be John Carlson.

 

[Beef Invictus]

On all the sports talk shows up here, they all mention how odd they found it how that Philly did a full on blitz of media from everyone about this trade.

Said you expect a GM to talk about it but Philly has GM, Pres and CEO doing media. They found it quite odd.

It is odd.

 

[deadhead]

Yeah, you have to analyze a draft ex ante with all available information (including the information you should have obtained with proper due diligence, whether it be a competent medical exam or scouts doing background work on a prospect/player's character).

Talentwise, Gaither/Drysdale are probably a wash, but Drysdale has a higher risk of injury.

Fit wise, Drysdale has more value to the Flyers (need 1st pair D-men) and Gaither to Anaheim (plenty of D-men and centers, need a scoring wing).

The 2nd rd pick is compensation for the higher injury risk.

 

[Beef Invictus]

Flyers fans upset with Cutter Gauthier may want to remember how their team once acquired Eric Lindros - The Boston Globe

Lindros, chosen No. 1 by the Nordiques in the 1991 draft, refused to play for Quebec and ultimately helped engineer his trade to Philadelphia the following June.

www.bostonglobe.com

This is incredible, nobody has thought of this or pointed it out here. Thank you so much for this very positive contribution

 

[Captain Dave Poulin]

Flyers fans upset with Cutter Gauthier may want to remember how their team once acquired Eric Lindros - The Boston Globe

Lindros, chosen No. 1 by the Nordiques in the 1991 draft, refused to play for Quebec and ultimately helped engineer his trade to Philadelphia the following June.

www.bostonglobe.com

Allegedly, posters on this site aren't supposed to go on other teams' boards and troll. Ah well, at least we have gi ... umm ... automerge!

 

[renberg]

Interesting that this article comes from the BOSTON Globe. IMO, in the end, this is where I expect Quitter to end up. His next move is to stiff Anaheim. I haven't noticed any indication that he is willing to sign with the Ducks. If I'm wrong, pease correct me.

 

[Beef Invictus]

Allegedly, posters on this site aren't supposed to go on other teams' boards and troll. Ah well, at least we have gi ... umm ... automerge!

We assume the best and most positive things about people here now CDP. I'm sure he just didn't think that we, a bunch of mostly older or old Flyers fans most of whom were alive at the time, would remember the league altering trade which had ripples up to the modern day. We are old and older, after all. Our memories fail.

 

[Captain Dave Poulin]

We assume the best and most positive things about people here now CDP. I'm sure he just didn't think that we, a bunch of mostly older or old Flyers fans most of whom were alive at the time, would remember the league altering trade which had ripples up to the modern day. We are old and older, after all. Our memories fail.

Ah, I see. So not just another boring and awful mongrel. Got it.

 

[Beef Invictus]

Ah, I see. So not just another boring and awful mongrel. Got it.

Of course not. I'm sure that every time something happens to his godawful team and city of racists, he thinks back to something from 40-80 years ago, nods, and thinks "yes we deserve this. Pizza in our city is a trash heap."

 

[Terrier]

Allegedly, posters on this site aren't supposed to go on other teams' boards and troll. Ah well, at least we have gi ... umm ... automerge!

I'm not trolling, I just posted the article for your perusal. I do it periodically, if a Boston article might be of interest to another board(i.e., posting a story about Greg Cronin, former head coach at Northeastern, on the Ducks board).