Confirmed with Link: Flyers trade Cutter Gauthier to Anaheim for Jamie Drysdale and 2025 2nd round pick

[GKJ]

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[Kelmitchell2]

For sure he did. Is it wrong for people to make death threats, and whatever? Hell yeah.

The Flyers can’t be too annoyed if he shit talked the franchise though, because even as Bundy says… He never heard of a coach treating a player as poorly as Torts did Hayes.

The Flyers reap what they sow with these kind of situations.

Which is why I'm not surprised a prospect wanted out, and I'm not surprised we are no longer a hot spot for free agents (unless they're useless looking for a pay day)

 

[Kermit the Prog]

Which is why I'm not surprised a prospect wanted out, and I'm not surprised we are no longer a hot spot for free agents (unless they're useless looking for a pay day)

I feel triggered. The "looking for a pay day" part...and the useless part, too.

 

[Kelmitchell2]

I feel triggered. The "looking for a pay day" part...and the useless part, too.

Same Kermit, same lol

 

[GapToothedWonder]

I like how Cutter refusing to meet with John LeClair like he’s some kind of NHL royalty was the height of true disrespect. He’s the American hockey hall of fame, and yes obviously was an excellent player. He also played his last NHL game when Cutter was 2 and hasn’t been seen since.

I got such a kick out of the way the Flyers acted like LeClair and Sharp were legends of the game who should be showered with respect.

Both really good players and I'll always love LeClair. But neither guy is going to be somebody well known to a person who didn't see them playing growing up.

Cutter never would have seen LeClair play and likely only remembers the clapped out middle 6 version of Sharp.

It's no different then me having no idea who John Ogrodnick, a name I've never even heard of until I looked up guys around LeClair goal total.

 

[Jettany]

I got such a kick out of the way the Flyers acted like LeClair and Sharp were legends of the game who should be showered with respect.

Both really good players and I'll always love LeClair. But neither guy is going to be somebody well known to a person who didn't see them playing growing up.

Cutter never would have seen LeClair play and likely only remembers the clapped out middle 6 version of Sharp.

It's no different then me having no idea who John Ogrodnick, a name I've never even heard of until I looked up guys around LeClair goal total.

Well he did speak about what an honor it was to have a Pat Verbeek, with his great career, call him and tell him how much the Ducks were happy to get him. Same era.

 

[GKJ]

Well he did speak about what an honor it was to have a Pat Verbeek, with his great career, call him and tell him how much the Ducks were happy to get him. Same era.

A little different when you’re the actual GM who has had relationships with these agents and has been working in the sport since his retirement. He likely met Verbeek during the draft process.

 

[Fight4yourRight]

I got such a kick out of the way the Flyers acted like LeClair and Sharp were legends of the game who should be showered with respect.

Both really good players and I'll always love LeClair. But neither guy is going to be somebody well known to a person who didn't see them playing growing up.

Cutter never would have seen LeClair play and likely only remembers the clapped out middle 6 version of Sharp.

It's no different then me having no idea who John Ogrodnick, a name I've never even heard of until I looked up guys around LeClair goal total.

You think they would have at least invested in getting Colby’s shittier brother and Biceps over there to Sweden, post haste.

 

[macleish1974]

IF true, Broad Street Buzz:

Flyers fans traveled in bunches to a Boston College hockey game to give Gauthier a piece of their mind. While I don't condone the latter, you can't argue Philly fans don't travel well.

HA HA HA

 

[ValeriKamensky]

Rock in the avatar, rocks in the skull.

#Consistency

You can try in humor as much as you like, but one thing remains unchanged: Flyers fans always find reason to cry. Even after winning Stanley Cup the will be like: “Oh f””” piece of s”””, now our 1st pick is only 32nd, Fire them all in front office, the don’t care about future”

 

[Captain Dave Poulin]

You can try in humor as much as you like, but one thing remains unchanged: Flyers fans always find reason to cry. Even after winning Stanley Cup the will be like: “Oh f””” piece of s”””, now our 1st pick is only 32nd, Fire them all in front office, the don’t care about future”

That sounds like comedy to me, so I will continue to try in humor.

 

[usahockey22flyers]

I got such a kick out of the way the Flyers acted like LeClair and Sharp were legends of the game who should be showered with respect.

Both really good players and I'll always love LeClair. But neither guy is going to be somebody well known to a person who didn't see them playing growing up.

Cutter never would have seen LeClair play and likely only remembers the clapped out middle 6 version of Sharp.

It's no different then me having no idea who John Ogrodnick, a name I've never even heard of until I looked up guys around LeClair goal total.

To be fair, every time Cutter Gauthier watched his beloved Pens on National TV Keith Jones was probably on the call. He also probably saw Sharp win multiple Stanley Cups.

 

[GapToothedWonder]

To be fair, every time Cutter Gauthier watched his beloved Pens on National TV Keith Jones was probably on the call. He also probably saw Sharp win multiple Stanley Cups.

Even if Jones was on all the calls it would be no different to Ray Ferraro, who I didn't even know played until I was in my 20s.

Cutter would have been 11 for that last cup. So maybe he remembers Sharp from that. But even then as like the 5th or 6th best player on that team. Not exactly a legend.

 

[MayonnaiseOreo]

Even if Jones was on all the calls it would be no different to Ray Ferraro, who I didn't even know played until I was in my 20s.

Cutter would have been 11 for that last cup. So maybe he remembers Sharp from that. But even then as like the 5th or 6th best player on that team. Not exactly a legend.

I'm in between your take and some of the others.

LeClair is one of the best American goal scorers of all time and was one of the prototypical power forwards of the '90s. He even played briefly with Crosby. I feel like Cutter would probably know who he is given his nationality and playing for the US development program.

Sharp was a 30+ goal a year guy on the best team in the league and a 3-time Cup champion who's been an analyst on TV for years now.

I'm not saying Cutter should've had their posters on his wall but they're both well-respected players that work for the Flyers player development program. It wasn't like the Flyers were just trying to throw some team celebs at the kid to talk to him.

Neither player was a superstar but it's a bit unfair to act like they were somewhat random dudes too.

 

[usahockey22flyers]

I'm in between your take and some of the others.

LeClair is one of the best American goal scorers of all time and was one of the prototypical power forwards of the '90s. He even played briefly with Crosby. I feel like Cutter would probably know who he is given his nationality and playing for the US development program.

Sharp was a 30+ goal a year guy on the best team in the league and a 3-time Cup champion who's been an analyst on TV for years now.

I'm not saying Cutter should've had their posters on his wall but they're both well-respected players that work for the Flyers player development program. It wasn't like the Flyers were just trying to throw some team celebs at the kid to talk to him.

Neither player was a superstar but it's a bit unfair to act like they were somewhat random dudes too.

You just don’t handle your business like that. If you don’t want to be a Flyer that is your right as a hockey player, but to not explain why or meet with your employer…that’s bad faith and souring the well for everyone else.

He could have just gone in the hallway to meet LeClair at BC or Danny in Sweden. But he didn’t.

That’s handling your business like a coward.

I legit don’t care if he didn’t want to be here - this team has been embarrassing for 10 years. But don’t be a coward.

 

[MayonnaiseOreo]

You just don’t handle your business like that. If you don’t want to be a Flyer that is your right as a hockey player, but to not explain why or meet with your employer…that’s bad faith and souring the well for everyone else.

He could have just gone in the hallway to meet LeClair at BC or Danny in Sweden. But he didn’t.

That’s handling your business like a coward.

I legit don’t care if he didn’t want to be here - this team has been embarrassing for 10 years. But don’t be a coward.

100% agree with this take though I'll reiterate what I said however many pages ago that we don't know exactly what happened and how.

I like to think I'd have acted differently if I was in Cutter's situation but I'm just some 30 year old dude on a hockey forum. I'm past him not wanting to play here because I've enjoyed what Drysdale has brought in his limited action so far but Cutter shouldn't be shocked that Philly hates him and probably will for the rest of his hockey days.

 

[Curufinwe]

You just don’t handle your business like that. If you don’t want to be a Flyer that is your right as a hockey player, but to not explain why or meet with your employer

They weren't his employer and he told them 6 months ago he wasn't going to sign in Philly.

 

[Rebels57]

Note to all future Flyers acquisitions, DO NOT PUT ON THAT FILTHY DOG MASK.

 

[BernieParent]

Note to all future Flyers acquisitions, DO NOT PUT ON THAT FILTHY DOG MASK.

The first time I saw one of the players put it on, I thought, "There's an unsanitary new tradition!" It probably got the thumbs up from the medical staff, too.

 

[GapToothedWonder]

I'm in between your take and some of the others.

LeClair is one of the best American goal scorers of all time and was one of the prototypical power forwards of the '90s. He even played briefly with Crosby. I feel like Cutter would probably know who he is given his nationality and playing for the US development program.

Sharp was a 30+ goal a year guy on the best team in the league and a 3-time Cup champion who's been an analyst on TV for years now.

I'm not saying Cutter should've had their posters on his wall but they're both well-respected players that work for the Flyers player development program. It wasn't like the Flyers were just trying to throw some team celebs at the kid to talk to him.

Neither player was a superstar but it's a bit unfair to act like they were somewhat random dudes too.

I mean they've worked for the Flyers development system for what 8 months? Has Cutter even in communication with the team at all since they have been hired?

I think we can't underestimate the effect of age here. You mention LeClair played with Crosby, but Cutter was literally a toddler when LeClair played there.

Vyacheslav Kozlov is a multiple cup winner. The 5th highest scorer from the Red Wings 90s championship teams. I was about 10 when they won their last cup. Obviously sharp was a little better then that, but I wouldn't even know Kozlov was a hockey player if I hadn't looked it up.

Again I'm not saying they both weren't great players, I just don't think either are the type of name that will be well remembered by future generations. They just weren't on that level.

 

[MayonnaiseOreo]

I mean they've worked for the Flyers development system for what 8 months? Has Cutter even in communication with the team at all since they have been hired?

I think we can't underestimate the effect of age here. You mention LeClair played with Crosby, but Cutter was literally a toddler when LeClair played there.

Vyacheslav Kozlov is a multiple cup winner. The 5th highest scorer from the Red Wings 90s championship teams. I was about 10 when they won their last cup. Obviously sharp was a little better then that, but I wouldn't even know Kozlov was a hockey player if I hadn't looked it up.

Again I'm not saying they both weren't great players, I just don't think either are the type of name that will be well remembered by future generations. They just weren't on that level.

To your first point - I have no idea but they're still employees of the team and their job is to work with the guys we drafted.

Maybe I'm different from Cutter in that I was really interested in hockey history and past players and just learned about them by stories from my parents, NHL broadcasts, books, and playing the video games.

I'm just saying that LeClair is one of the best American goal scorers of all time and even though Cutter didn't see him play he should still be familiar with the name.

We can speculate all day about what happened but my point was that the Flyers sending out LeClair and Sharp wasn't them parading around former NHLers just because they were good when they played. They were doing their job.

 

[GapToothedWonder]

To your first point - I have no idea but they're still employees of the team and their job is to work with the guys we drafted.

Maybe I'm different from Cutter in that I was really interested in hockey history and past players and just learned about them by stories from my parents, NHL broadcasts, books, and playing the video games.

I'm just saying that LeClair is one of the best American goal scorers of all time and even though Cutter didn't see him play he should still be familiar with the name.

We can speculate all day about what happened but my point was that the Flyers sending out LeClair and Sharp wasn't them parading around former NHLers just because they were good when they played. They were doing their job.

Just so we are on the same page this is the context of what I originally posted

"I got such a kick out of the way the Flyers acted like LeClair and Sharp were legends of the game who should be showered with respect."

My comment was on the follow up remarks made by the Flyers and others, how it was disrespectful to not meet with them because of the level of players they were.

All I was saying is that those players probably aren't any more relevant to Cutter as Neal Broten or Peter McNab are to somebody born in 1989. I found it funny that the Flyers expected them to be treated like anything more then any other player development coach.

 

[MayonnaiseOreo]

Just so we are on the same page this is the context of what I originally posted

"I got such a kick out of the way the Flyers acted like LeClair and Sharp were legends of the game who should be showered with respect."

My comment was on the follow up remarks made by the Flyers and others, how it was disrespectful to not meet with them because of the level of players they were.

All I was saying is that those players probably aren't any more relevant to Cutter as Neal Broten or Peter McNab are to somebody born in 1989. I found it funny that the Flyers expected them to be treated like anything more then any other player development coach.

That's fair.

New lore (or slander) just dropped.

 

[usahockey22flyers]

They weren't his employer and he told them 6 months ago he wasn't going to sign in Philly.

Employer, future employer - whoever they are, just took you at 5th overall and crowned you the new franchise superstar. Flyers even offered Cutter Gauthier jerseys for new season ticket holders if I remember correctly in 2022

We’ll probably never know what happened but the Flyers, especially considering it was a new regime had every right to try and talk to him….to not pick up is lame as hell

 

[Curufinwe]

To your first point - I have no idea but they're still employees of the team and their job is to work with the guys we drafted.

Maybe I'm different from Cutter in that I was really interested in hockey history and past players and just learned about them by stories from my parents, NHL broadcasts, books, and playing the video games.

I'm just saying that LeClair is one of the best American goal scorers of all time and even though Cutter didn't see him play he should still be familiar with the name.

We can speculate all day about what happened but my point was that the Flyers sending out LeClair and Sharp wasn't them parading around former NHLers just because they were good when they played. They were doing their job.

It doesn't matter how great Leclair was as a player. If Gauthier met with him, Leclair's only purpose would be to cajole/browbeat/encourage/sweet talk Gauthier to play for the Flyers. And Gauthier had known for a half a year that he didn't want to do that.

 

[FromOyVey2Matvei]

I can’t believe we’re having a debate on if Sharp and/or LeClair are “legends”

I don’t care if it was Wayne Gretzky, the important thing is that they were PAID REPRESENTATIVES OF THE FLYERS. They were sent there by Flyers management, likely with a script or list of talking points provided by management, on a plane ticket paid for by flyers management to try and sell Cutter on coming back to the Flyers. They weren’t “legends of the game” at that point (if they ever were), they were door to door bible salesmen.

Sharp: “Excuse me sir, have you heard the good word of the flyers culture?”

LeClair: “Have you accepted John “Jesus” Tortorella as your lord and savior?”