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I don’t give a damn about Cutter Gauthier (unless he becomes an elite goalscorer / all star).If Eliot Friedmann's comments are relevant/cogent, I think Gauthier did not like Briere's and Torts
"process", that you have to earn a spot on the Flyer's roster, plus he probably hated the idea of the Flyers not to expend a year on the ELC and had to play another year at BC.
For me, the kid can rot in hell for all I care, besides, I was never comfortable with him as a Flyer.
Now Barkey is the kind of Flyer I applaud....ahhhh......je ne sais quoi
Can I have an opinion on this?
What are your thoughts on hot dogs being sandwiches?
STOP DEFLECTINGAs you well know, I have to check with the pug before I'm allowed to have opinions. She's currently asleep. And snoring.
So if we go by that, the kid didn’t want to be part of the Flyers development machine, and a questionable FO.
Shocking
Sounds like he viewed the Fletcher/Briere/Jonesy Flyers as dysfunctional.
STOP DEFLECTING
ANSWER THE QUESTION AND ACCEPT YOUR PUNISHMENT
10+ years and 50 year cup drought hasn't been enough apparently. This hole the team keeps digging is big enough to provide geothermal energy for all of the tri-state area.See? This is a positive good. This is the kind of humiliation needed.
Hell yesI am a sandwich radical. Everything from a sushi roll to fried chicken is a sandwich.
it is a sandwich the same way a square is a rectangleHell yes
I knew I could count on you to be reasonable
dumplings are sandwiches. As are chicken nuggets.Hell yes
I knew I could count on you to be reasonable
We got a #6 and a probable #40 or so for #5.
I'd say Drysdale has a higher ceiling than Gauthier just based on position played, but more risk (I'll trade a 1LW for a 1st pair D-man any day of the week if the 1LW isn't elite, anyone ever thought Gauthier was going to be elite?).
And I'd rather have the player who wants to be here. Given Drysdale is 21 and Gauthier is 20 (and D-men tend to have longer careers), age is irrelevant.
They absolutely are.dumplings are sandwiches. As are chicken nuggets.
It's 2 years by age, not by games. The concerns around injury are valid and whether he can recover - but to say that he's stalled development (Drysdale) in terms of potential or progress is pretty disingenous.It’s almost two full years of age difference without significant progress. Hand-waving that is a fool’s errand.
That’s not to say he can’t recover. Nor am I the biggest Gauthier fan. We’re just talking about the probability.
But surely you understand that not every opportunity is equal. Sure, you can say look, Frost is getting games, Brink, Foerster, they are all getting games and time, but it doesn't mean that their development is prioritized.Again, you’re doing exactly what I’m describing here — contorting the circumstances to fit our particular grievances as Flyers fans; in this case, Morgan Frost’s treatment in the lineup.
Trevor Zegras (9th overall, 2019) and Mason McTavish (3rd overall, 2021) are totally different players and situations than Morgan Frost (27th overall, 2017). Much, much better players, at that. And they proved it and forced their roles in the Ducks’ lineup right off the bat. Why not cite Sam Steel (30th overall, 2016) who flamed out in Anaheim?
The Flyers afforded every opportunity to their top-of-the-draft prospects (eg, Provorov, Patrick). Konecny hasn’t exactly been put in a position to fail, either. Of course there are frustrations you can point to (valid ones!), but there are plenty of kids getting their opportunities. Notwithstanding the odd lineup decision here and there, Foerster & Brink are not exactly being starved for opportunity. Gauthier almost certainly would have been gifted a major opportunity on the Flyers before proving that he’s earned it (and that would have been the proper decision). Michkov will be too.
Or when they didn’t do it in March, he decided to go back.Briere saying on the Jeff Marek Show that Gauthier had wanted to return to college. When his agent requested a Zoom call post-Worlds, they expected it was for him to be changing his mind and saying he was ready to go pro.
So that makes the timeline even more confusing. If, March-ish (post-BC season, pre-Worlds), Gauthier wasn't even looking to go pro, could deliberation over an ELC/burning a year/cap overages really have been the cause for him to change his mind by May?
At least 2 other teams had serious offers.
I said more risk.It’s almost two full years of age difference without significant progress. Plus a wildly different contract dynamic. Hand-waving that is a fool’s errand.
That’s not to say he can’t recover. Nor am I the biggest Gauthier fan. We’re just talking about the probability.
It's 2 years by age, not by games. The concerns around injury are valid and whether he can recover - but to say that he's stalled development in terms of potential or progress is pretty disingenous.