Confirmed with Link: Flyers trade Cutter Gauthier to Anaheim for Jamie Drysdale and 2025 2nd round pick

[GKJ]

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[MiamiScreamingEagles]

Slapshot is insidious anti-Flyers propaganda and the hockey world is raised on it.

My first car, it was roughly the age of 10, was nearly identical to that of Newman's in Slapshot. More so LeMans than GTO but same color and hardtop. I saw the Clash and the Pretenders in that puppy.

 

[FromOyVey2Matvei]

Gauthier's agent saying it is a "private family matter."

GTFOH with that cop out.

I wouldn’t expect him or his family to say anything. He’s back at BC where nobody cares and when that season his over, he’ll be on his way to Anaheim, whose fans are ecstatic to have him, where he’ll begin his NHL career.

Nobody who matters to Cutter or Cutter’s career requires an explanation. And giving one is unlikely to make anything better for him.

The team’s governor already directly invoked JD Drew and basically encouraged fans to pelt him with batteries or the like upon his return to Philly.

Indirectly, the team accused another player of being behind this, and that player and his family received death threats.

All the while, the 3 stooges (Briere, Jonesy and Hilferty) pleaded ignorance as to what could’ve possibly led to this freeze out, as if our fans are all morons.

If anyone is owed an explanation, it’s us, the fans, but the Flyers damn sure don’t seem like they’re going to give one.

The authentics are sure loving that full on media blitz though. Slurping it up as “a new era of (orange) transparency”

Any minute now we’ll be hearing about how Marc Staal (a veteran) had relations with Cutter’s mom.

Torts was in the corner holding Cutter’s eyes open screaming “LOOK AT IT!”

 

[CanadianFlyer88]

Look, that was a fun time for those of us who experienced it and in some ways first-hand. But it was 1,000 years ago and younger people don't want to live in someone else's world of pleasures and jocularity. That is understandable. We can rehash history and I can sit here and tell the same feelings of how the Flyers would have won in 1976 with a healthy Parent+ MacLeish (and certainly the removal of Dryden and Montreal's second-line center), of how the team was f***ed multiple times by the NHL and raked over the coals in 1980 and so many more pieces of dysentery. The team is cursed. We can tank and tank and tank but still lose a draft lottery. We know some of the bad mojo is self-inducing. But players have choices these days, lower tax states, better weather, etc. than when Philadelphia was the ideal place to play hockey under Ed Snider. Things changed with the Eric Lindros acquisition. The Flyers went from a fierce unit of some stars but mostly bucket pail players to a superstar who was brought into the fold to win a Cup. It didn't happen. Pronger? The team hasn't recovered since. On and on it goes. The Flyers of the 1980s were a collection of good players who were injury-prone at the wrong time. Edmonton was built with superstars and arguably got the biggest break in NHL history with how they acquired Gretzky. Nothing wrong there. Kane and Bedard to Chicago? Crosby to Pittsburgh? Again and again. The Flyers? Nolan Patrick, James van Riemsdyk and now Cutter Bedard. It is excruciating. We can bash everyone from Clarke to the fans. Nothing has worked out. Bryzgalov for Richards and Carter -- yes, indirectly! Berube? A "good old boy" who was a meanie won a Cup in St. Louis. Tocchet? Mocked by many as a potential coach here. How is he doing in Van? Maybe he will fail but a "good ole boy" is doing OK. Ultimately, it takes players to win. The right players.

Cutter Bedard is now my favourite typo.

 

[CanadianFlyer88]

Nobody comparing Cutter to lindros anymore

Yet he finally did something worthy of the comparison.

 

[renberg]

So true. I was just watching Overdrive on TSN and 2 of the guys were basically calling him a generational talent. The Flyers were expecting him and Michkov to carve up the league for the next decade.
I like him as a player as some do. But whats being said about him is wild.

Gauthier may be a good prospect but “generational talent” is too much. If he was that, why did he last until the fifth pick in the draft with many thinking that Jiricek was a better selection. Then when Briere offered him to Montreal for the fifth pick last year, the Canadiens said pass and took Reinbacher. “Generational talent” my ….

 

[FromOyVey2Matvei]

Gauthier may be a good prospect but “generational talent” is too much. If he was that, why did he last until the fifth pick in the draft with many thinking that Jiricek was a better selection. Then when Briere offered him to Montreal for the fifth pick last year, the Canadiens said pass and took Reinbacher. “Generational talent” my ….

If he hits his ceiling, he’ll be a generational goal scorer.

What are the odds of that? Fairly low. And in my opinion, the odds of hitting your ceiling and an absurdly high ceiling are what makes a generational prospect. He fails the first criteria.

That being said, there’s 5-6 players among the current top 10 forwards in the NHL who also weren’t generational prospects, so….

 

[MiamiScreamingEagles]

Cutter Bedard is now my favourite typo.

"Just win one for the Zipper."

 

[usahockey22flyers]

If he hits his ceiling, he’ll be a generational goal scorer.

What are the odds of that? Fairly low. And in my opinion, the odds of hitting your ceiling and an absurdly high ceiling are what makes a generational prospect. He fails the first criteria.

That being said, there’s 5-6 players among the current top 10 forwards in the NHL who also weren’t generational prospects, so….

I truly believe Cutter can be a 50G guy without a doubt. I just don’t see Drysdale as a #1D anymore, I’m sorry.

 

[FlyTimmo]

If he hits his ceiling, he’ll be a generational goal scorer.

What are the odds of that? Fairly low. And in my opinion, the odds of hitting your ceiling and an absurdly high ceiling are what makes a generational prospect. He fails the first criteria.

That being said, there’s 5-6 players among the current top 10 forwards in the NHL who also weren’t generational prospects, so….

Similar odds to me being a generational scorer.

 

[Flyerfan4life]

There is much blame to expand. As I said in the post, some of it is self-inducing. Can't blame the Flyers for Pronger's injury. Patrick's ailment? There was a trail prior but to the magnitude that the kid couldn't play for more than a cup of coffee is reprehensible and surely, as it looks now, mistakes were made. Morin? Another miserable ending. Bryzgalov? Desperation that failed mightily. If not for injuries in 2004, Flyers probably beat Tampa Bay and then who knows maybe win a Cup or maybe not. But the Eric Weinrich's trade wasn't the difference in what happened with the vortex of depleted defense that run when Matty Timander is a supporting cast to the backbone. It has been a repulsive few years.

see you have completely blocked out Zombie Ellis...

 

[Putt Pirate]

Flyers valued Drysdale over Rinzel and a mid to late 1st. Blackhawks might not have even offered Rinzel.

Rinzel would be a non starter for us. We have a bunch of near NHL ready D that are pretty good. And a mid 1st over a 2nd. Anyhoo, good luck to both parties. We will know who ‘won’ in a decade.

 

[PALE PWNR]

There is much blame to expand. As I said in the post, some of it is self-inducing. Can't blame the Flyers for Pronger's injury. Patrick's ailment? There was a trail prior but to the magnitude that the kid couldn't play for more than a cup of coffee is reprehensible and surely, as it looks now, mistakes were made. Morin? Another miserable ending. Bryzgalov? Desperation that failed mightily. If not for injuries in 2004, Flyers probably beat Tampa Bay and then who knows maybe win a Cup or maybe not. But the Eric Weinrich's trade wasn't the difference in what happened with the vortex of depleted defense that run when Matty Timander is a supporting cast to the backbone. It has been a repulsive few years.

Bryzgalov was a terrible mistake. It was clear Bob was going to be a stud, but he had a bad playoff series and the blame was put on him. The Flyers have picked in the top 11, 12 times since I have been alive.

Ricci #4 (1990) Picked one pick before Jagr, left in 2 years as part of Lindros deal. Wasn't that great of a player anyway

Forsberg #6 (1991) Traded before playing a game for Lindros.

Sittler #7 (1992) Never played in the NHL because of injuries.

Pitkanen #4 (2002) Requested a trade 2 years into NHL career after the worst season in franchise history.

Carter #11 (2003) Played 6 seasons for the Flyers and did pretty well as a 30 Goal scoring 60 point defensively responsible center. Had his best year in Flyers orange, 46 goals 84 point campaign that outpaced any other year in his career by a ton. But off-ice issues derailed his career here and led to a trade before his extension kicked in where he found a way to LA and won a cup with Mike Richards.

JVR #2 (2007) Flyers lost the lottery to the team with the lowest odds to move past them after their worst season in franchise history, and instead of getting the greatest American to ever lace them up they got JVR, who never eclipsed the 50 point mark in a Flyers sweater, in either stint.

Couturier #8 (2011) Selke winning player at just under a PPG in his prime. Arguably the only TRULY successful Flyers top 10 Pick in my life time, to play for the Flyers for the majority of his career.

Morin #11 (2013) Played 29 games in the NHL the majority during the covid season, scored 1 goal and struggled with multiple season ending knee issues that ultimately ended his career.

Provorov #7 (2015) Never turned into the real #1 defensemen he was supposed to be, always looked lost in the offensive zone as an NHL player, was traded after he boycotted wearing a rainbow jersey

Patrick #2 (2017) The Flyers get lucky, FINALLY, jumping up for the 13 spot in the draft to #2, and then having NJ inexplicably pass on the consensus #1 overall pick for the entire year, Patrick falls to us. Multiple concussions and other head issues resulted in him being traded for a player that played 4 games for the Flyers and Patricks career calling it quits 5 seasons into his NHL career.

Gauthier #5 (2022) Refuses to sign an ELC and forces the team to trade him a year and 6 months after being drafted and saying he was born to be a Flyer.

Michkov #7 (2023) TBD

God that was depressing

 

[FromOyVey2Matvei]

Similar odds to me being a generational scorer.

You got that kinda game with the ladies?

 

[orangey]

Well at least we don't have to hear JJ scream CUTTER for years to come. I have to say that name really triggers me. Must be a whole family of D bags. Bullet dodged as far as I'm concerned. Ellis 2.0 and a 2nd isn't exactly a solid return but look at the silver lining here... CUTTER! Uhghth

 

[Rebels57]

If he hits his ceiling, he’ll be a generational goal scorer.

What are the odds of that? Fairly low. And in my opinion, the odds of hitting your ceiling and an absurdly high ceiling are what makes a generational prospect. He fails the first criteria.

That being said, there’s 5-6 players among the current top 10 forwards in the NHL who also weren’t generational prospects, so….

His ceiling is certainly not "generational goal scorer."

Nothing he has done at any level would suggest that.

Jeff Carter would be a more realistic projection of his ceiling.

 

[usahockey22flyers]

There is much blame to expand. As I said in the post, some of it is self-inducing. Can't blame the Flyers for Pronger's injury. Patrick's ailment? There was a trail prior but to the magnitude that the kid couldn't play for more than a cup of coffee is reprehensible and surely, as it looks now, mistakes were made. Morin? Another miserable ending. Bryzgalov? Desperation that failed mightily. If not for injuries in 2004, Flyers probably beat Tampa Bay and then who knows maybe win a Cup or maybe not. But the Eric Weinrich's trade wasn't the difference in what happened with the vortex of depleted defense that run when Matty Timander is a supporting cast to the backbone. It has been a repulsive few years.

I always felt the Flyers threw away game 1 in 2010. We needed that game

 

[Beef Invictus]

Bryzgalov was a terrible mistake. It was clear Bob was going to be a stud, but he had a bad playoff series and the blame was put on him. The Flyers have picked in the top 11, 12 times since I have been alive.

Ricci #4 (1990) Picked one pick before Jagr, left in 2 years as part of Lindros deal. Wasn't that great of a player anyway
Forsberg #6 (1991) Traded before playing a game for Lindros.
Sittler #7 (1992) Never played in the NHL because of injuries.
Pitkanen #4 (2002) Requested a trade 2 years into NHL career after the worst season in franchise history.
Carter #11 (2003) Played 6 seasons for the Flyers and did pretty well as a 30 Goal scoring 60 point defensively responsible center. Had his best year in Flyers orange, 46 goals 84 point campaign that outpaced any other year in his career by a ton. But off-ice issues derailed his career here and led to a trade before his extension kicked in where he found a way to LA and won a cup with Mike Richards.
JVR #2 (2007) Flyers lost the lottery to the team with the lowest odds to move past them after their worst season in franchise history, and instead of getting the greatest American to ever lace them up they got JVR, who never eclipsed the 50 point mark in a Flyers sweater, in either stint.
Couturier #8 (2011) Selke winning player at just under a PPG in his prime. Arguably the only TRULY successful Flyers top 10 Pick in my life time, to play for the Flyers for the majority of his career.
Morin #11 (2013) Played 29 games in the NHL the majority during the covid season, scored 1 goal and struggled with multiple season ending knee issues that ultimately ended his career.
Provorov #7 (2015) Never turned into the real #1 defensemen he was supposed to be, always looked lost in the offensive zone as an NHL player, was traded after he boycotted wearing a rainbow jersey
Patrick #2 (2017) The Flyers get lucky, FINALLY, jumping up for the 13 spot in the draft to #2, and then having NJ inexplicably pass on the consensus #1 overall pick for the entire year, Patrick falls to us. Multiple concussions and other head issues resulted in him being traded for a player that played 4 games for the Flyers and Patricks career calling it quits 5 seasons into his NHL career.
Gauthier #5 (2022) Refuses to sign an ELC and forces the team to trade him a year and 6 months after being drafted and saying he was born to be a Flyer.
Michkov #7 (2023) TBD

God that was depressing

The Bob thing gives me diarrhea whenever I ponder it

 

[MiamiScreamingEagles]

see you have completely blocked out Zombie Ellis...

 

[Embiid]

Well at least we don't have to hear JJ scream CUTTER for years to come. I have to say that name really triggers me. Must be a whole family of D bags. Bullet dodged as far as I'm concerned. Ellis 2.0 and a 2nd isn't exactly a solid return but look at the silver lining here... CUTTER! Uhghth

It really is a pretentiously annoying name. Sounds like the kind of family that names their daughters after states like Dakota, Montana or herbs like Sage...

 

[orangey]

inB4 ruined....

InB4 career ending re-injury....

 

[LegionOfDoom91]

It really is a pretentiously annoying name. Sounds like the kind of family that names their daughters after states like Dakota, Montana or herbs like Sage...

I honestly didn’t even know it until like yesterday but apparently Cutter is his middle name. His real full name is William Cutter Gauthier.

 

[MayonnaiseOreo]

There is much blame to expand. As I said in the post, some of it is self-inducing. Can't blame the Flyers for Pronger's injury. Patrick's ailment? There was a trail prior but to the magnitude that the kid couldn't play for more than a cup of coffee is reprehensible and surely, as it looks now, mistakes were made. Morin? Another miserable ending. Bryzgalov? Desperation that failed mightily. If not for injuries in 2004, Flyers probably beat Tampa Bay and then who knows maybe win a Cup or maybe not. But the Eric Weinrich's trade wasn't the difference in what happened with the vortex of depleted defense that run when Matty Timander is a supporting cast to the backbone. It has been a repulsive few years.

I'm still wholly convinced the Flyers would've won the Cup in 2004 if they didn't have the injuries. That game 7 loss was the one that broke me as a fan. I was only 11 and cried my eyes out watching the final seconds tick off the clock. That series was heartbreak for me. The 2010 Final loss was just an empty feeling rather than sadness.

 

[Beef Invictus]

Was this his last as a Flyer?

 

[Beef Invictus]

I honestly didn’t even know it until like yesterday but apparently Cutter is his middle name. His real full name is William Cutter Gauthier.

So he's a Willy Cutter

 

[MiamiScreamingEagles]

Was this his last as a Flyer?

His one and only barring a Bob Dailey-like attempt at a comeback.