Confirmed with Link: Flyers trade Cutter Gauthier to Anaheim for Jamie Drysdale and 2025 2nd round pick

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[ellja3]

How are you doing, health-wise?

One unit of measure worse as soon as I heard of Gauthier news.

On serious note, thanks for asking. It's quite ok; if not for very supportive husband I'd have jumped out of window about /checks notes/ many weeks ago. I'm actually doing quite a few part-time projects from home. Little one is 100% bueno so on that side it's also nice.

Back to topic, tho.

Boo, Flyers.

 

[Beef Invictus]

I think you’re mistaking some members of this forum saying “it’d be better for the Flyers if Michkov takes the full 3 years in Russia so this team can build up and hit the ground running” with the idea that they’d be angry if he came over early, got out of Russia and signed an ELC.

That isn’t necessarily the case and I don’t think the majority of posters would be mad.

It’s the same way I would’ve been f***ing ecstatic if Cutter burned 0 of his ELC years, utilized every year of his contract’s slide eligibility and then gave us a full 3 years on his ELC. It was just never realistic and I also would’ve been perfectly fine with him burning a year, spending the 2nd year figuring out the league and only really starting to provide value in the final year.

I'll raise my hand as someone who would be mad! I wanted Gauthier to do as much developing elsewhere as he could. I want the same for Michkov. I want them to get this full 3 years and use it to maximum effect to move out and get returns for everything that won't be a factor when Michkov hits his prime.

I'd still love watching him, I hope. It would be a very confusing time, like puberty on peyote.

 

[DancingPanther]

Oh no. They’ve done one interesting thing for awful reasons. That’s it.

Drysdale is not even my preferred bucket to watch in the PMD area. If it was Thomas Harley or something, maybe.

(THIS IS NOT AN EVALUATION. IT’S WHAT I FIND FUN.)

Excellent ok. I couldn't let you do this to yourself. I thought I saw it starting. Whew.

 

[Beef Invictus]

Agreed that if we could have received a similar draft pick that we could pick rather then looking through other teams stockpiles, i'd prefer that.

I don't even need a similar pick, if you mean top 5; which you probably don't because you said similar and not matching. Top 10 and a 2nd would please me. Gimme quantity.

With Drysdale's fragile Victorian consumption-child body, I struggle to mark him as "quantity." There's a very good chance the return here effectively becomes just the 2nd. Dude has to actually be here to be here. I do not like that chance given this team's history.

 

[JojoTheWhale]

Excellent ok. I couldn't let you do this to yourself. I thought I saw it starting. Whew.

<— trade whore

 

[Beef Invictus]

One unit of measure worse as soon as I heard of Gauthier news.

On serious note, thanks for asking. It's quite ok; if not for very supportive husband I'd have jumped out of window about /checks notes/ many weeks ago. I'm actually doing quite a few part-time projects from home. Little one is 100% bueno so on that side it's also nice.

Back to topic, tho.

Boo, Flyers.

If you haven't thrown the baby against a wall yet you're doing great, dudette

 

[FromOyVey2Matvei]

I'll raise my hand as someone who would be mad! I wanted Gauthier to do as much developing elsewhere as he could. I want the same for Michkov. I want them to get this full 3 years and use it to maximum effect to move out and get returns for everything that won't be a factor when Michkov hits his prime.

I'd still love watching him, I hope. It would be a very confusing time, like puberty on peyote.

Ok… let me rephrase…

If your choices were:

A. Michkov comes over a year early
B. We deny Michkov’s request to come over a year early and he requests a trade, where Torts has input on the proposed return

Which are you choosing? I know it’s tough to not choose B for the pure comedy of it all, but I’m guessing you’d take A if you’re being serious.

 

[snoop88]

Found this post on the Flyers Reddit. Thought you guys might get a kick out of it.


“
To the doomers:

There are a ton of reasons to still be optimistic. This does not change anything for the following reasons:

A) Michkov is the real cornerstone of this rebuild. As long as he is still in the cards we’re still sitting pretty. He has the upside of being the next Ovechkin for f***s sake.

B) Draft capital. Wahhhhhh we lost Gauthier. f*** that. We have two firsts and two seconds AS OF NOW. We now have the ability to trade Walker and/or Seeler and still have a solid defense. We could realistically end this season with 3 firsts this year and 2 firsts next year. That’s insane.

C) Our current elite pieces. Yeah, Gauthier might have become elite, or maybe he’s the next Nolan Patrick. No way to tell. We currently have elite pieces that we should be excited about. TK, Cam York, either Hart/Errson… we have high caliber players that will be here throughout the rebuild.

D) Free agency is still a thing. Philly is a huge market and with a ton of prospects coming in over the next couple years. These are major attractors to free agents so we should be able to sign a 1C.

E) Drysdale is an absolute menace. Sure, he has an injury history, but if he stays healthy he will be a 1RD. His upside is as high as a top 3 defender in the league. That will be absolutely crucial if this team is serious about the cup in a few years (look at offensive heavy teams like Edmonton).

f*** Gauthier, but if he didn’t want to play here he wasn’t going to benefit this franchise whatsoever. Drysdale is a legit competitor (not a fraud like Quitter Gauthier) and he will be paramount in winning us a cup. I’m hyped as ever for this team.

Go Flyers, f*** the pens.”

 

[freakydallas13]

This thread has become a dumpster fire but i will say that i find it amusing that some of you are portraying this as a franchise-destroying moment when Gauthier, simultaneously, is not supposedly THAT great of a prospect. I mean, he should be good and the talent level is obvious but he clearly has some flaws in his game that may prove to be fatal at the pro level. The reaction here to this situation i think would be more justified if someone like Michkov does the same thing in a year or 2. At that point, all the outrage directed at Jones and Briere will be 100% justified. Until then... yeah sorry i'm firmly on Team "Cutter is an entitled little shit, f*** him".

We didn't think Gauthier was going to single handedly save this franchise, but the Flyers braintrust sure did.

 

[Beef Invictus]

Ok… let me rephrase…

If your choices were:

A. Michkov comes over a year early
B. We deny Michkov’s request to come over a year early and he requests a trade, where Torts has input on the proposed return

Which are you choosing? I know it’s tough to not choose B for the pure comedy of it all, but I’m guessing you’d take A if you’re being serious.

I'd take A. And rip my skin off. Unless the team fires everyone in management (and Torts/Rocky) five minutes from now, in which case I'd happily have him here immediately.

 

[gertbfrobe16]

Haven't posted for a while, but logged in just to say how the morning was like, literally 5sec after opening my eyes at 8am

hb: ''why would the Flyers trade Cutter Gauthier?''
me: ''the Flyers WHAT''

Not gonna bring ''tell me how to feel about this'' question here, but if the guy did not want to sign, so be it. Certainly our upper management knew why precisely and if Torts is to blame. 100% that it has been mentioned here already, but they were trying to trade him already at draft, as per Charlie O'Connor or what the name of that twat was.

Were you the Latvian Lady at the World Junior game with the foam finger?

 

[Beef Invictus]

Found this post on the Flyers Reddit. Thought you guys might get a kick out of it.


“
To the doomers:

There are a ton of reasons to still be optimistic. This does not change anything for the following reasons:

A) Michkov is the real cornerstone of this rebuild. As long as he is still in the cards we’re still sitting pretty. He has the upside of being the next Ovechkin for f***s sake.

B) Draft capital. Wahhhhhh we lost Gauthier. f*** that. We have two firsts and two seconds AS OF NOW. We now have the ability to trade Walker and/or Seeler and still have a solid defense. We could realistically end this season with 3 firsts this year and 2 firsts next year. That’s insane.

C) Our current elite pieces. Yeah, Gauthier might have become elite, or maybe he’s the next Nolan Patrick. No way to tell. We currently have elite pieces that we should be excited about. TK, Cam York, either Hart/Errson… we have high caliber players that will be here throughout the rebuild.

D) Free agency is still a thing. Philly is a huge market and with a ton of prospects coming in over the next couple years. These are major attractors to free agents so we should be able to sign a 1C.

E) Drysdale is an absolute menace. Sure, he has an injury history, but if he stays healthy he will be a 1RD. His upside is as high as a top 3 defender in the league. That will be absolutely crucial if this team is serious about the cup in a few years (look at offensive heavy teams like Edmonton).

f*** Gauthier, but if he didn’t want to play here he wasn’t going to benefit this franchise whatsoever. Drysdale is a legit competitor (not a fraud like Quitter Gauthier) and he will be paramount in winning us a cup. I’m hyped as ever for this team.

Go Flyers, f*** the pens.”

Ahhhhh I remember going through this kind of optimism ten years ago. Before The F***enning unfolded.

 

[freakydallas13]

I think there would have been hefty criticisms for incurring any overages when the team is rebuilding, as that cap space a) could be used to weaponize in trades and b) should never have been wasted on signing Gauthier ASAP just for him to play in Year 1 of a rebuild, especially when it'd help his development to go back to college for another year.

Just go back in the summer and look at the Michkov thread: The general consensus is that the Flyers should in no way be rushing to waste his ELC years, even though Michkov has far, far more urgency and priority to get here ASAP than Gauthier did. Wasting an ELC year just to get Gauthier under Tortorella's wing ASAP would be deemed malfeasance.

I've said from the start that, from Gauthier's perspective, I understand why he is angry. And I understand why, from Danny's perspective, he is not beholden to his predecessor's promises.

Many of us spent the summer blasting Briere because he had to dump Kaye's that moment and not a second later cap space cost be damned. So no, most of us would not have had "hefty criticisms" about signing Gauthier.

 

[VladDrag]

No, it‘s truly just hilarious that the people who are so gung-ho to not rush anything and let Gauthier get maximal time at BC & away from the Flyers are now acting like signing him last spring would have been met with anything other than criticism and ridicule. I don’t need your permission to laugh — it’s just straight up funny.

I think it would have been met with criticism, and from a fan’s perspective that’s probably valid.

 

[kudymen]

Ahhhhh I remember going through this kind of optimism ten years ago. Before The F***enning unfolded.

I like how watching a decade of failures accompanied by meaningless fluffy buzzwords and learning from it is somehow viewed as being a "doomer". If only I could run a drill straight to my brain to be forever "happy" and optimistic

 

[freakydallas13]

Not the optimal outcome?

Understatement - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

The Hindenburg explosion was not the optimal outcome either.

 

[ellja3]

Were you the Latvian Lady at the World Junior game with the foam finger?

No.... BUT!!!! I was THIS Latvian girl @ Stockholm (Global Series), HAHA

Edit: Steve shortened it a lot, obviously; I kindly asked him if we can take a pic after my friend was wildly gesturing he's right behind us in the line for beer @ Avicii Arena; and when Steve asked where I am from I was like - Latvia... welll.. the country of... TEDDY BLUEGER

Edit2: Yes, I was @ Stockholm with my friend watching Global Series with moderate amount of beer; an event my hb accepted without any blackmail, but the recently appearing white hair bits on his head now make more sense.

 

[gertbfrobe16]

You could win in the NHL with a team with no Canadians.
You could win in the NHL with a team solely made of Canadians.

Pretty funny that the last all Canadian team to win the cup was the Flyers.

 

[Kermit the Prog]

The way this thread has metastasized is quite impressive.

Personally, eh. The "Who"s, the "Why"s, etc. don't matter to me, only the empirical "Gautier OUT; Drysdale IN" reality. I understand peoples' need to know and/or comprehend. I just don't share that desire.

I will say, however, when he was drafted, I uttered a barely-audible "doosh" - primarily at his parents for naming him that.

 

[Adam Warlock]

Found this post on the Flyers Reddit. Thought you guys might get a kick out of it.


“
To the doomers:

There are a ton of reasons to still be optimistic. This does not change anything for the following reasons:

A) Michkov is the real cornerstone of this rebuild. As long as he is still in the cards we’re still sitting pretty. He has the upside of being the next Ovechkin for f***s sake.

B) Draft capital. Wahhhhhh we lost Gauthier. f*** that. We have two firsts and two seconds AS OF NOW. We now have the ability to trade Walker and/or Seeler and still have a solid defense. We could realistically end this season with 3 firsts this year and 2 firsts next year. That’s insane.

C) Our current elite pieces. Yeah, Gauthier might have become elite, or maybe he’s the next Nolan Patrick. No way to tell. We currently have elite pieces that we should be excited about. TK, Cam York, either Hart/Errson… we have high caliber players that will be here throughout the rebuild.

D) Free agency is still a thing. Philly is a huge market and with a ton of prospects coming in over the next couple years. These are major attractors to free agents so we should be able to sign a 1C.

E) Drysdale is an absolute menace. Sure, he has an injury history, but if he stays healthy he will be a 1RD. His upside is as high as a top 3 defender in the league. That will be absolutely crucial if this team is serious about the cup in a few years (look at offensive heavy teams like Edmonton).

f*** Gauthier, but if he didn’t want to play here he wasn’t going to benefit this franchise whatsoever. Drysdale is a legit competitor (not a fraud like Quitter Gauthier) and he will be paramount in winning us a cup. I’m hyped as ever for this team.

Go Flyers, f*** the pens.”

I honestly wouldnt have hated this trade even if there was no drama from Gauthier. Flyers needed to make a trade like this and acquire a guy with top pair potential at the cost of their G or wing depth. I never thought itd be cutter...but i honestly like what this does for us if Drysdale pans out. To me, its more likely they can draft another guy with Gauthiers talents than a top pair dman.

 

[DrinkFightFlyers]

YES! WELCOME.

It was bound to happen eventually.

 

[trostol]

Found this post on the Flyers Reddit. Thought you guys might get a kick out of it.


“
To the doomers:

There are a ton of reasons to still be optimistic. This does not change anything for the following reasons:

A) Michkov is the real cornerstone of this rebuild. As long as he is still in the cards we’re still sitting pretty. He has the upside of being the next Ovechkin for f***s sake.

B) Draft capital. Wahhhhhh we lost Gauthier. f*** that. We have two firsts and two seconds AS OF NOW. We now have the ability to trade Walker and/or Seeler and still have a solid defense. We could realistically end this season with 3 firsts this year and 2 firsts next year. That’s insane.

C) Our current elite pieces. Yeah, Gauthier might have become elite, or maybe he’s the next Nolan Patrick. No way to tell. We currently have elite pieces that we should be excited about. TK, Cam York, either Hart/Errson… we have high caliber players that will be here throughout the rebuild.

D) Free agency is still a thing. Philly is a huge market and with a ton of prospects coming in over the next couple years. These are major attractors to free agents so we should be able to sign a 1C.

E) Drysdale is an absolute menace. Sure, he has an injury history, but if he stays healthy he will be a 1RD. His upside is as high as a top 3 defender in the league. That will be absolutely crucial if this team is serious about the cup in a few years (look at offensive heavy teams like Edmonton).

f*** Gauthier, but if he didn’t want to play here he wasn’t going to benefit this franchise whatsoever. Drysdale is a legit competitor (not a fraud like Quitter Gauthier) and he will be paramount in winning us a cup. I’m hyped as ever for this team.

Go Flyers, f*** the pens.”

Yeah the Flyers subreddit is nothing but full on homers that do not really give the org any grief

 

[Hollywood Cannon]

When you realize that the Flyers' next game is Pride Night...

Combine that with this and boy oh boy do we have a perfect storm brewing. This week is going to be a good one.

 

[usahockey22flyers]

I would have put Cutter on the spot - sign in March 2024, or play at BC again.

He would have been here.

 

[Beef Invictus]

When you realize that the Flyers' next game is Pride Night...

Combine that with this and boy oh boy do we have a perfect storm brewing. This week is going to be a good one.

Drysdale has an opportunity here