Confirmed with Link: Flyers trade Cutter Gauthier to Anaheim for Jamie Drysdale and 2025 2nd round pick

[GKJ]

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[Beef Invictus]

That podcast originally said someone in the Flyers' org thinks it was Hayes. That's a report. I wouldn't go to press with it unless I had reason to believe it was true, but it's still fine when framed properly.

It's everything afterward where they clearly had a personal problem with him where all defenses melt away.

"Someone" being Jones getting a narrative out there to shift blame to someone they scapegoat already. That's his main job after all. He wasn't hired to improve hockey ops, he was hired to distract from them.

 

[Danko]

Fans would have loved to see Cutter last year, give them something to actually watch at the end of a horrible year...that's just dumb.

 

[Hollywood Cannon]

What about punched in the side of the head by their coach?

Ville Leino, that you?

 

[VladDrag]

So, I'll rescind what I've said for the time being. I guess it was the ELC.

 

[Beef Invictus]

I said that the last 30 years. Gave them the benefit of the doubt for literal decades. They routinely disappoint. Feel free to hold out hope but nothing in this organization's history should lead you to believe that anything will be different.

YES! WELCOME.

 

[GapToothedWonder]

Kevin Kurz debunked the "we wouldn't sign him" in his article on the Athletic today. Apparently, the Flyers would have signed him but it was his desire to go back to BC, not the Flyers. The only way he said he'd sign with the Flyers is if they guaranteed him an NHL roster spot, and the Flyers apparently responded saying if he earns it they'll make room but there's no guarantee.

Now, keeping in mind the media is running rampant with rumors, *IF* the above is true, then I'd say good riddance. No player is ever guaranteed a spot in the NHL, on any team. That's a terrible thing to set precedent on.

So for all those claiming "why didn't just Flyers just cave for one of their top prospects stoopidz Flyurs" that also apparently does not appear to be the case.

Do you understand the difference between signing him before and after the season ends?

Do you understand how it effects his ELC? Genuinely asking because it seems like you don't know the contract rules.

 

[devilsfan35]

Coming from a devils fan, I hope Drysdale becomes a special player for you guys. Rooting against Gauthier big time. He seems like an entitled pos

 

[JojoTheWhale]

"Someone" being Jones getting a narrative out there to shift blame to someone they scapegoat already. That's his main job after all. He wasn't hired to improve hockey ops, he was hired to distract from them.

But if you're a reporter and Jones tells you that on the record, it's not your problem that it getting out causes chaos. Your responsibility is to make it clear that the source is internal.

Of course they did double down and make it personal because they're dopes. But it is what it is.

 

[GapToothedWonder]

I can't blame Gauthier for being angry, but Briere is not required to adhere to Chuck Fletcher's short-sighted promises

You're right he is not. And this is the fallout his actions.

Cutter has every right now not deal with an organization that lied to his face. Regime change or not a promise was made to him and then it was broken. Danny was already around in a leadership role when that promise was made.

 

[DancingPanther]

"It definitely wasn't Torts" is exactly what someone who hates Tortorella would say.

As far as the cap thing, damn who could have seen that coming? Crazy how all those shit shoveler players on shit shoveler contracts signed by shit shoveler GMs came back to bite them like this. If that's true, it's just as well deserved as if Godking Emperor Tortorella was the reason.

This team deserves no success. They've done nothing to cultivate success and it's about time they reap what they've sown. THAT is what they deserve: national embarrassment

 

[Portal]

I guess I can change my profile picture now.

 

[Danko]

You're right he is not. And this is the fallout his actions.

Cutter has every right now not deal with an organization that lied to his face. Regime change or not a promise was made to him and then it was broken. Danny was already around in a leadership role when that promise was made.

What promise? What was promised here by the flyers, did i miss that?

 

[Beef Invictus]

But if you're a reporter and Jones tells you that on the record, it's not your problem that it getting out causes chaos. Your responsibility is to make it clear that the source is internal.

Of course they did double down and make it personal because they're dopes. But it is what it is.

Advantage of being "just a podcast"

 

[GapToothedWonder]

What promise? What was promised here by the flyers, did i miss that?

From what we know the organizarion said they were going to sign him at the conclusion of his first year of college hockey, they did not.

 

[LegionOfDoom91]

Yeah who knows, thats the problem...maybe Dan Hilferty himself leaked it to ASF, IDK. It was completely irresponsible by ASF to mention it...he can hide behind a source...maybe there wasn't one. I'm not gonna try and call the guy a liar but we just don't know and unless you can prove something, maybe you shouldn't report it. It has been clear for several months they've had a vendetta against Kevin Hayes. I think Therien even mentioned something along the lines of Get the real story about Kevin Hayes in St. Louis from Berube...

Maybe I’m giving Dan Hilftery much more credit than he deserves but in a general sense I doubt that guy would go on record with a potential subject matter like that to a media member. Generally a guy like that sitting towards the top in a corporation or organization structure is going to use a stooge underneath him to indirectly leak that to the media. That way it gives the media enough of a credible source to the situation to run with it but at the time offers separation from the guy at the top.

So that’s probably who’s leaking it directly. It’s probably some stooge or stooges in the organization looking to take some heat off the organization. At the benefit of who I guess is up for debate, that could be multiple people.

 

[Redpath]

You're right he is not. And this is the fallout his actions.

Cutter has every right now not deal with an organization that lied to his face. Regime change or not a promise was made to him and then it was broken. Danny was already around in a leadership role when that promise was made.

It is only up to our speculation as we don't know the exact conversations, but I'd pin it on the GM (Chuck) for being responsible for promises of a contract, not one of the GM's assistant. It's not a promise broken if it's Chuck who made the promise and Danny who didn't.

Not that I blame Gauthier for being pissed. But I also don't blame Briere for doing what he deemed to be the best instead of adhering to his horrible predecessor's promises.

The alternative complaint here is "Briere rushed into giving Cutter an ELC just because Chuck promised so! And now we have cap overages! Nothing has changed!"

 

[Curufinwe]

It was because of needless penny pinching by a team that's happy to retain 50% on Hayes for THREE years and buy out Angelo just to appease Torts?

hahahahahahahahaha

 

[wankstifier]

Can someone do the math here of if the Flyers traded JVR last year if they would have been able to stay under the cap? Please, please make that be the case. I need this.

I'd look at it as the cost of keeping Laughton.

 

[FlyerNutter]

But wait. Hilferty legit is out at practice today shaking hands with attendees/fans.

Comcast does know what it’s doing

 

[deadhead]

But if you're a reporter and Jones tells you that on the record, it's not your problem that it getting out causes chaos. Your responsibility is to make it clear that the source is internal.

Of course they did double down and make it personal because they're dopes. But it is what it is.

This sounds more like the typical, "oh Hayes knows Gauthier and hates Torts so that explains why he wouldn't sign" speculation that ASF made no effort to confirm. But that's why I completely ignore social media when it comes to news, real reporters still have standards for the most part, but any idiot can have a podcast and drool into a microphone for 30 minutes or edit a Tik Tok bit.

 

[FromOyVey2Matvei]

Coming from a devils fan, I hope Drysdale becomes a special player for you guys. Rooting against Gauthier big time. He seems like an entitled pos

We all hope this. The last decade+ of Flyersdom says this goes the exact opposite way.

 

[Starat327]

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Thanks, Chuck.

I guess all of those little things did add up to something.

Nothing burger.

 

[GKJ]

If the issue was a bonus overage for a season where they are rebuilding, IT IS NOT A REBUILD

 

[JojoTheWhale]

Can someone do the math here of if the Flyers traded JVR last year if they would have been able to stay under the cap? Please, please make that be the case. I need this.

Just napkin mathing maximum bonuses, I think JVR would have covered it, but someone like Laughton would not. Unless they had more space than I remember.

 

[Hollywood Cannon]

Just napkin mathing maximum bonuses, I think JVR would have covered it, but someone like Laughton would not unless they had more space than I remember.

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