GKJ
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Confirmed with Link: Flyers trade Cutter Gauthier to Anaheim for Jamie Drysdale and 2025 2nd round pick
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deadhead
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Both players are question marks, Gauthier just got benched after 4 games and Drysdale is a work in progress. The 2nd rd pick should be top 40.
I expect Gauthier to be a better version of Tippett, good goal scorer who is meh otherwise.
But getting benched on a bad team after two years of college is not a good look.
I expect Gauthier to be a better version of Tippett, good goal scorer who is meh otherwise.
But getting benched on a bad team after two years of college is not a good look.
FLYguy3911
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Cronin's a hardo.
Still a horrendous trade.
Still a horrendous trade.
blackjackmulligan
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Those 2 were actually passable at playing defense. So far JD has not been. He aint even Greg Hawgood
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Marcus Hayes "bitch" slapper
He seems to have confidence issues.....maybe the injuries have affected his psyche a bit. Hopefully, he snaps out of it but he does look rather bad on D....
blackjackmulligan
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Getting called out by your coach saying you don't know how to play is a worse look.
One can hope. All the Flyers can do at this point is be patient. My hope is he is healthy and plays 75 games. Then you build on that and hope the rest comes.
What I really wonder is how long it takes the coach to distance himself from the player and the trade. Then put him in the Torts house.
deadhead
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Drysdale has looked better so far this season, and that's without Seeler.
As far as Gauthier:
Seems from Canuck fans he just floats around, got benched for a failed back check that led to a goal.
Another player who put on 20 lbs in the offseason.
www.nhl.com
As far as Gauthier:
Seems from Canuck fans he just floats around, got benched for a failed back check that led to a goal.
Another player who put on 20 lbs in the offseason.
Gauthier, eyeing Ducks roster spot, displays new physique at Rookie Faceoff | NHL.com
20-year-old forward ‘feeling more dominant’ after adding 20 pounds to frame during offseason
www.nhl.com
blackjackmulligan
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JD has looked terrible. Adding no value at all so far.Drysdale has looked better so far this season, and that's without Seeler.
As far as Gauthier:
Seems from Canuck fans he just floats around, got benched for a failed back check that led to a goal.
Another player who put on 20 lbs in the offseason.
Gauthier, eyeing Ducks roster spot, displays new physique at Rookie Faceoff | NHL.com
20-year-old forward ‘feeling more dominant’ after adding 20 pounds to frame during offseason
IDK about terrible but yeah he isn't exactly making me feel psyched about that trade.
Beef Invictus
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The main way that he's better is that he's even in the ice to be seen
Tripod
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Why not get Shaw to whisper to him. After all, he fixed Risto.....to a 3rd pairing D...lol
Magua
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No one should give a shit about 3 games. Your point isn't proven right or wrong in that sample. It's sour grapes to even care. Hell, Drysdale hasn't come within an astronomical unit of his first 3 game sample as a Flyer.
But many of us were skeptical that Gauthier could play center; we pegged him in his draft year as a long-range shot-happy floater; and we saw a nice complementary scorer (which he'll probably still be) over a cornerstone. We'll see what's true, but that was always our scouting report, and when he was Flyers property there was pretending none of those were possibly true. And @FLYguy3911 was calling Drysdale a less than the sum of his parts offensive player in 2020. Not Scott Niedermayer. We'll do the same with Luchanko -- time is a flat circle.
But many of us were skeptical that Gauthier could play center; we pegged him in his draft year as a long-range shot-happy floater; and we saw a nice complementary scorer (which he'll probably still be) over a cornerstone. We'll see what's true, but that was always our scouting report, and when he was Flyers property there was pretending none of those were possibly true. And @FLYguy3911 was calling Drysdale a less than the sum of his parts offensive player in 2020. Not Scott Niedermayer. We'll do the same with Luchanko -- time is a flat circle.
Curufinwe
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I wonder if Luchanko would be on the team or even have been drafted (given how hard they draft for "need") if they hadn't lost Gauthier.
I'd bet my life savings they would have shoehorned Cutter into the center spot.
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I'd bet my life savings they would have shoehorned Cutter into the center spot.
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Curufinwe
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Some posters in the Anaheim roster thread want Cutter sent to the AHL, but most don't. 
freakydallas13
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It's a horrendous trade no matter what Gauthier turns out to be, just based on the value of each asset at the time of the trade.
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No one is worse at scouting Flyers prospects than the Flyers. Its astonishing.
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But have you considered his ambidextrous golfing
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Where's he getting traded?Some posters in the Anaheim roster thread want Cutter sent to the AHL, but most don't.
deadhead
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To be fair, in retrospect, looking like a thin draft, D+3 only a few players have played until this season.
#1 Slavkovsky 125g
#2 Nemec 66g
#3 Cooley 87g
#4 Wright 20g
#5 Gauthier 4g
#6 Jiricek 47g
#7 Korchinski 76g
#8 Kasper 1g
#9 Savoie 1g
#10 Mintyukov 66g
#11 Geekie 2g
#12 Mateychuk
#13 Nazar 3g
#14 McGroarty 3g
#54 Piotras 54g
I'd say Mintyukov looks like the best player after #5, Korchinksi, Jiricek and not much else.
Of course, this may change the next couple years, but odds are none will be close to elite.
renberg
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I see that Pittsburgh sent McGroarty down to the AHL today
GapToothedWonder
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I'll always be convinced Luchanko growing up a Flyers fan played a factor in drafting him.
Magua
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I've brought this up several times, but the Flyers have a total organizational block on trading ELC players. Not even talking prospects still in junior. Play a game if you want: find me the last one, then find me the one before.
Sbisa and....? Sbisa also wasn't necessarily a judgment call
We can litigate how the Flyers aren't good at aspects of drafting, but it doesn't take much to prove how high their opinion is of themselves. I don't think they ever steel man an argument about any of their prospects, which leads to thoughts of selling high. All while oddly not pumping their prospects' values. I think they don't care about pumping value because they assume they'll eventually hit within the organization.
Magua
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Every player is 20 years old; most are turning pro this year. Rushing to judgment, aren't we? Quite a few of those players could outperform Gauthier. Remember, us idiots WANTED the Flyers to trade back from 5th overall because we didn't like the value of the spot. We wanted more picks. Don't need to retrospectively discuss our opinions on that one.
(By the way, the fact that you curiously cut it off at Matthew Poitras (#54) and not Lane Hutson (#62) made me chuckle. Did you think we wouldn't notice?)
But really this "thin draft" talk means nothing -- today or, more appropriately, in January 2024. Gauthier was taken 5th overall, and he had strong enough D+1 and D+2 seasons to solidify his top prospect status until the moment of the transaction. What did skeptics who wanted to short his stock think? Doesn't matter. What mattered was the 18-20 decision makers who wanted a piece. And that piece was valuable.
renberg
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Maybe not retrospectively discuss this but some reasonable remembering might be useful. He was/is/will not be a 1C in the NHL. The skills for that position aren’t there. That the Flyers thought that they could make this happen was an illustration of the misguided egoism that has permeated the franchise for way too long. Cutter may have done everyone a favor by getting off of the club since he was never going to be capable of filling the role that the club had for him.
The remaining issue is was the return adequate? Right now it looks like a Tippett type player in exchange for a RHD, probably eventually a second pair one, and an early second round DC. Time will tell but it could be a fair exchange. Whether DB could have done better we’ll never know.
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Pumping value goes against their philosophy of making prospects "earn it" and "build culture" via "crushing futility"
