Post-Game Talk: Flyers @ The Powerhouse 7:30pm

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Glad to see the season final kick-off after a off-season that seemed to really drag (seriously, NHL scheduling is crap).

Not a fan of 11/7 at all, I wonder if it's a directive from on high to show a few D-men, or whether Quinn's just being dumb.

Does anyone know who's in goal for the Flyers?
 
Asking Buchnevich to be Vesey Howden or Strome is dumb... His play style isnt as hard nose as those guys so our Boston guy coach sees that as not working hard enough.
Seems rather presumptuous.

I mean, in the ADA thread you've been super critical of anyone making assumptions about him and what might have been keeping him out of the lineup. Yet here, you're totally fine guessing what the problem is with Buch and Quinn.
 
The Buchnevich thing is going to turn into a carbon ****ing copy of the DeAngelo argument.

Clearly, Quinn places a heavy emphasis on doing the things that are asked of you, and working to correct the mistakes the coaches identify. And if during games, and during practice, you're still doing the same stupid **** over and over and over, he's not going to play you. End of story. Add in the fact that he's trying to build a foundation a oversee a team in transition, and I don't think he cares if holding a guy out isn't what is best for the actual on-ice product. This is the non-insane "The Process" that we're abiding by.

DeAngelo seemed to respond. When he got back in the lineup he was better than he had ever been, IMO. Either Buch responds (I don't think he's a guy who will respond to this) or he can go bye-bye.

I only read up to "Clearly,..", but why iz Quinn trying to ruin Buch?
 
Flyers have a hot goalie sitting and a mediocre goalie starting off an injury and long layoff. I fully expect the Rangers to struggle to score. Maybe even get shutout.
 
Well, Quinn won't break down every aspect of each player's game, so we don't really know. But, my guess is that the difference is you have guys who have issues that have been identified by the staff, and the staff sees those guys actively working towards eliminating those mistakes, and can live with the fact that those players are otherwise struggling. They're struggling but they're buying into the program and responding positively to coaching.

Then you have other guys, maybe they don't respond as well to the coaching. Maybe the coaches have identified a particular issue where a guy continues to make bad pinches, or makes risky drop passes, or something very specific. And in practice they continue to do it and in games they continue to do it. And even though they're "better" than the guys in the previous group, the coach rewards guys who buy into the program and listen to the coaching staff and work on those specific things. The guys who don't do it, don't play, or play less.

Not to compare my boy's travel team to an NHL team, but the principle is the same. I have a kid, Will, who is the most talented kid on the team. But he has some really bad habits out there, and he refuses to listen to me or my AC, and he jut does the same dumb thing over and over. So now Will doesn't start, and I'll pull Will at the end of close games. It's not increasing my chances of winning, but it's helping the team--the other boys see what's up, and they know they damn well better listed to me at practice and work on what I tell them to work on. And we're now a cohesive unit to the point that not having Will isn't even that big of a deal. Again, same principle with what Quinn does. And this is absolutely the time to do it: when the team is rebuilding and trying to form an identity. You nail this **** down now, establish a culture on the team where everyone buys in 100%, and you're so much better for it a couple years down the road, when you have 15-20 guys who know the deal and whoever you add is forcibly assimilated (or doesn't play)

I'm a fan of Quinn's approach.

Exactly! Worse with teenagers. I get so exasperated when I see head coach of my son's HS team's "ignore" his star senior antics - ignoring huddle, talking to people in stands, overstaying his shifts and refusing to get off the ice! It doesn't do any good for anyone - the kid or the team.

I'm also a fan of Quinn's approach!
 
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My hope is that moving Howden to wing either ignites his game, or does nothing and is the final experiment before sending him to Hartford where he probably should be.
 
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