Flyers 2017 Training Camp Discussion Thread

[boxcar65]

Hagg is not listed on the Flyers page.

Whoops.

Obviously it's just an oversight by the people responsible for the website.

 

[Hiesenberg]

Hagg is not listed on the Flyers page.

But Rubtsov is.

 

[Foggy14]

If Sanheim makes the team I would love to see them go to the old PP when Richards, Briere, Pronger and Kimmo were together (with Carter/Hartnell in middle... Lupul before that).

Where they lined up with Briere (left side) and Richards (right side) on halfboards but right near goal-line, and the other forward was generally between circles. Dmen at points.

Then kind of overloaded when puck came to one side, other halfboard man snuck into post... when puck came to halfboards Dman on other side creeped in.

It would suit Sanheim for sure... and Provorov is good enough to do it too.

Personnel wise? Hmmm. Helps having all three guys capable of crashing net, so:

Patrick - Konecny - Couturier
Provorov - Sanheim

Would be for me interesting... and makes sense with handedness (as handedness in that set-up on half boards is more important even than in current one.)

Alex, I like your power play ideas. Definitely time for some new thinking.

One area where your setup would help a lot is in reducing the number of short-handed goals we allow.

Last season we were tied for third worst with 9 shorties given up. A lot of that came from playing the 1-3-1. For example, when Streit was at the top of the umbrella, that was always an adventure.

Knoblauch should be able to fix the short-handed goals allowed problem. Reduce shorties by 5, and increase PP goals by 5, and we'll likely have a net top 5 power play in the League.

 

[Alex91]

I think Weal needs to be on a PP unit. His skills are Taylormade for the role

 

[Hiesenberg]

So Bardreau & McDonald are out "weeks"

 

[Hiesenberg]

By my estimate the Flyers will probably around 2-3M in cap space when the roster is set.

BTW, I didn't actually do the math, just figuring how many more roster spots will be cut and how much savings those guys will be.

 

[Appleyard]

By my estimate the Flyers will probably around 2-3M in cap space when the roster is set.

BTW, I didn't actually do the math, just figuring how many more roster spots will be cut and how much savings those guys will be.

If it is the roster that seems most likely (I.E. from here Vecchione and Leier down, Sanheim down) then they will have $2.4m cap space with 23 players.

 

[Appleyard]

Giroux and Voracek's interviews today on the PP were quite interesting.

Seemed pretty un-enamoured with Filppula in that spot. Giroux especially.

https://www.nhl.com/flyers/video/training-camp-giroux-voracek/t-277437426/c-52885903

 

[Rebels57]

Really concerned about the PP at this point..

 

[Tripod]

Really concerned about the PP at this point..

The 1st unit seemed like an easy plug n play with Lindblom. I was expecting a few different plays/setups using that unit. In no way did I expect a pass 1st guy to be put in the Schenn spot. Not sure how that makes any sense.

I was more excited to see what he did with the 2nd unit.

Now I am just disappointed unless the plan is to pump up Flips points in order to move him. But that doesn't look likely either.

At this rate, Lindblom, Vech and Sanheim will be sent to the AHL just to **** me off more.

 

[bauer]

So Bardreau & McDonald are out "weeks"

great news. perfect opportunity for one of the kids to steal that spot away from him.

 

[Rebels57]

The 1st unit seemed like an easy plug n play with Lindblom. I was expecting a few different plays/setups using that unit. In no way did I expect a pass 1st guy to be put in the Schenn spot. Not sure how that makes any sense.

I was more excited to see what he did with the 2nd unit.

Now I am just disappointed unless the plan is to pump up Flips points in order to move him. But that doesn't look likely either.

At this rate, Lindblom, Vech and Sanheim will be sent to the AHL just to **** me off more.

Lets hope its just an experimemt that ends soon. Oskar is tailor made to play the slot. Puck hound, great hand eye, finishes if given the chance, etc.

 

[Tripod]

Lets hope its just an experimemt that ends soon. Oskar is tailor made to play the slot. Puck hound, great hand eye, finishes if given the chance, etc.

I hate being negative about it especially because it's pre-season, but it seems like we have created an problem when we didn't need to. The solution seemed so simple.

I wish a reporter with a backbone would just ask "why put a guy who has not broken 12 goals in the last 3 years, in a shooters spot on the PP in an attempt to replace Schenn's 17 PP goals?"

 

[Magua]

They did start Lindblom there though for half a game. PP struggled with him on it, though not because of him more a general unit-wide funk, and they tried Plan B. All offseason and camp to plan and they outright gave the 21 year old 5th round pick with 0 NHL games played the spot. It shows you where their heads are at. I'm going to go out on a ledge and say sooner rather than later Lindblom will get the spot back. It's a test for him right now, that and moving to the 5th line. And they didn't put him on PP2 today. It would be a weird move to go from PP1 to no PP so quickly, unless it was because they were going to reinsert him.

 

[Rebels57]

They did start Lindblom there though for half a game. PP struggled with him on it, though not because of him more a general unit-wide funk, and they tried Plan B. All offseason and camp to plan and they outright gave the 21 year old 5th round pick with 0 NHL games played the spot. It shows you where their heads are at. I'm going to go out on a ledge and say sooner rather than later Lindblom will get the spot back. It's a test for him right now, that and moving to the 5th line. And they didn't put him on PP2 today. It would be a weird move to go from PP1 to no PP so quickly, unless it was because they were going to reinsert him.

I had my fill of Haks psychological games last season.

Get him in the spot and give him as many reps as possible prior to the start of the season. Any day not spent there is time wasted.

Im actually kind of afraid theyll start him in LHV because hes waiver exempt and they love blah veterans like Read.

 

[Tripod]

I hope you are right Magua.

 

[deadhead]

I had my fill of Haks psychological games last season.

Get him in the spot and give him as many reps as possible prior to the start of the season. Any day not spent there is time wasted.

Im actually kind of afraid theyll start him in LHV because hes waiver exempt and they love blah veterans like Read.

Who do you think is running the PP?
The guy half of you want to replace Hakstol!

Sometimes people get ridiculous around here.
It's freakin' training camp, don't overreact day to day when they try different combinations out.

The only reason they'd send Lindblom down to LHV would be Hextall wants to buy time to trade a veteran or Leier and he's afraid Leier would be snatched off waivers.

 

[Maurice of Orange]

Couple of former Flyers lighting the lamp in Arizona tonite, Cousins 2 goals and Luke Schenn 1 goal score their 1st tallies of the preseason.

Watch Nick Cousins have a breakout year now that he's being given an opportunity to play some real minutes in Arizona with better line mates. I wish the Flyers would have given Nick better linemates, instead of VDV and PEB. The youngster Keller has also been very impressive as well.

 

[CodyTheHuman]

great news. perfect opportunity for one of the kids to steal that spot away from him.

That's McDonald, not MacDonald.

 

[MacDonald4MVP]

Couple of former Flyers lighting the lamp in Arizona tonite, Cousins 2 goals and Luke Schenn 1 goal score their 1st tallies of the preseason.

Watch Nick Cousins have a breakout year now that he's being given an opportunity to play some real minutes in Arizona with better line mates. I wish the Flyers would have given Nick better linemates, instead of VDV and PEB. The youngster Keller has also been very impressive as well.

It will be interesting to see how he plays this year. Especially with amount of penalties that are being called this year.

 

[tictactoe]

Lindblom should start in AHL. I just do not see him in top 6 so far. Nothing wrong with him playing a few games in AHL 1st.

 

[Lotusflower]

Couple of former Flyers lighting the lamp in Arizona tonite, Cousins 2 goals and Luke Schenn 1 goal score their 1st tallies of the preseason.

Watch Nick Cousins have a breakout year now that he's being given an opportunity to play some real minutes in Arizona with better line mates. I wish the Flyers would have given Nick better linemates, instead of VDV and PEB. The youngster Keller has also been very impressive as well.

Cousins is legit. Ive always felt that. If he was ever able to become even an average NHL skater that's a solid bottom sixer

 

[Hiesenberg]

I have hope for this B6, but I can see Hakstol/Hexy starting out with a real bunch of nothings like Weise/Read/Raffl/Lehtera, that will hurt.

 

[Alchemy]

I have hope for this B6, but I can see Hakstol/Hexy starting out with a real bunch of nothings like Weise/Read/Raffl/Lehtera, that will hurt.

None of those players are bad though. They all can find themselves onto another teams roster with no problem and i hate Read but he isn't some scrub that is barely holding on to stay in the league.

 

[Curufinwe]

Laughton and Leier haven't shown they are better NHL players than those guys at the moment, so that's a weird thing to be complaining about already.

I still say Lindbloms basically a lock. As you can see with Giroux on the wing, this is a practice of just trying out stuff, so I'm not too worried about Lindbloms practice spot right now.

I think so, but he's probably not going to play in every one of these last four preseason games.

He's already played four times including the rookie game, while some of the veterans have only played once.