Friedman: Flames trying to acquire a first round pick

[Vancouver Canucks]

What the hell? That’s way off. Try Konecny+.

I would say, "Sanheim", but I guess Konecny's all right.

 

[Tkachuk Norris]

I think if Adam Fox is on the table he warrants a mid first rounder at least.

 

[KarmaPolice]

They should shop Brodie to see what kind of return they could get, IMO. He has holes in his defensive game, but has a good offensive game and many teams will highly value that. Should theoretically get a better return than Hamonic, but always depends on the market, of course.

 

[KarmaPolice]

I think if Adam Fox is on the table he warrants a mid first rounder at least.

Late 1st/early 2nd. Not a lottery pick, IMO.

 

[Baxterman]

Re-read my post, I never suggested each and every one of those players would be candidates to be traded one for one for a 1st round pick...I was listing out their players without full NTCs that I felt were worth "at least a 1st round pick" in a trade.

i read your post and was just pointing out that it didn't have to be a 1 for 1 trade. You seemed focused on that aspect and I was pointing out there was another option.

If that wasn't what you meant then sorry I was trying to criticize you just bringing out another option for them to get the pick.

 

[Tkachuk Norris]

Late 1st/early 2nd. Not a lottery pick, IMO.

He’s one of the best prospects in the league. Don’t cur what HF thinks. Guy is a star in the making.

 

[KarmaPolice]

He’s one of the best prospects in the league. Don’t cur what HF thinks. Guy is a star in the making.

I think he's a great prospect for sure. But you have to take into account that he was on a very stacked team last season. This season he's still put up good production, though, without much drop off. It's possible he could get a pick in the 20-30 range, but because of his lack of size and what I already mentioned I'm not sure you'd get a lottery pick, but I could be wrong. Just my 2 cents. Great prospect for sure, with a lot of potential.

 

[member 290103]

He’s one of the best prospects in the league. Don’t cur what HF thinks. Guy is a star in the making.

LOL.

 

[SmellOfVictory]

Sam Bennett absolutely does not get a 1st round pick

You're right, 21 year old 4th overall picks who are fast and tenacious would never be something a GM might give up a 1st round pick for. You may not think he's worth it, and HFBoards may not. Hell, 29 GMs might agree. But all it takes is one guy to think "this kid could be greta with a change of scenery; we can fix him."

 

[Snakepit]

It's Treliving. He'd be looking to add a first even if they already had 2. We've seen this every single year before the draft, he always looks into it

 

[CraigsList]

I think he's a great prospect for sure. But you have to take into account that he was on a very stacked team last season. This season he's still put up good production, though, without much drop off. It's possible he could get a pick in the 20-30 range, but because of his lack of size and what I already mentioned I'm not sure you'd get a lottery pick, but I could be wrong. Just my 2 cents. Great prospect for sure, with a lot of potential.

Regardless if the Isles win the lottery or not with one of the 1sts they have, I wouldn’t mind trading them Adam Fox for the higher 1st. Even if we won the lottery, we can at least say that the Isles won it with theirs and we keep the other pick. Would definitely change things a little. Besides, I believe Fox was born in the state of New York.

 

[Snakepit]

I wonder if Frolik is on the block.

Could be, there was always speculation he'd be gone before his contract is up. 2 more years at 4.3

 

[vcanuck]

since calgary doesn't have a 3rd this year also, we'll give you a 3rd for Bennett. We're going to Benjamin Button him and help him regain is 18 yr old self again.

 

[Vancouver Canucks]

since calgary doesn't have a 3rd this year also, we'll give you a 3rd for Bennett. We're going to Benjamin Button him and help him regain is 18 yr old self again.

Yeah, that actually sounds like a fair deal.

 

[KarmaPolice]

Regardless if the Isles win the lottery or not with one of the 1sts they have, I wouldn’t mind trading them Adam Fox for the higher 1st. Even if we won the lottery, we can at least say that the Isles won it with theirs and we keep the other pick. Would definitely change things a little. Besides, I believe Fox was born in the state of New York.

The Isles need help on D, so maybe they consider. Unless they are eyeballing certain D prospects that they value more in this draft. So it's hard to say. I personally doubt it, but I wouldn't say it's not possible.

And yep, he's from the state of NY, so that might play into things a bit.

 

[ManofSteel55]

Who would they give up? If they want a high draft pick they'd have to give one of their top players, something I don't see them doing. Unless they finish really bad and then maybe prospects and their 2nd round pick? Why not just wait for the 2nd round?

I could see someone giving up a late first for T.J. Brodie.

 

[Vancouver Canucks]

I could see someone giving up a late first for T.J. Brodie.

I would say a late first or an early 2nd and a C prospect.

 

[dellzor]

He’s one of the best prospects in the league. Don’t cur what HF thinks. Guy is a star in the making.

No he's not lol

 

[vanarchy]

You're right, 21 year old 4th overall picks who are fast and tenacious would never be something a GM might give up a 1st round pick for. You may not think he's worth it, and HFBoards may not. Hell, 29 GMs might agree. But all it takes is one guy to think "this kid could be greta with a change of scenery; we can fix him."

 

[SmellOfVictory]

since calgary doesn't have a 3rd this year also, we'll give you a 3rd for Bennett. We're going to Benjamin Button him and help him regain is 18 yr old self again.

If you're gonna Benjamin Button him to 18 yo Sam Bennett we refuse to trade him unless it's for 4th overall.

 

[vcanuck]

He’s one of the best prospects in the league. Don’t cur what HF thinks. Guy is a star in the making.

 

[Sidney the Kidney]

Curtis Lazar, who at the time had 1 assist in 33 games, was traded for a 2nd round pick. Yet Bennett, who is only two years removed from an 18 goal rookie season, couldn't land even a late 1st? I don't buy it.

Bennett's still young enough and isn't far enough removed from his draft position or rookie season, that NHL teams likely still see upside in him.

IMO, Bennett's still got Nazem Kadri-like potential. Keep in mind Kadri didn't reach his current level until he was 26 years old AND played for a good coach. Gulutzan doesn't exactly fit the description of someone that gets the best out of all his players.

 

[vcanuck]

Curtis Lazar, who at the time had 1 assist in 33 games, was traded for a 2nd round pick. Yet Bennett, who is only two years removed from an 18 goal rookie season, couldn't land even a late 1st? I don't buy it.

Bennett's still young enough and isn't far enough removed from his draft position or rookie season, that NHL teams likely still see upside in him.

IMO, Bennett's still got Nazem Kadri-like potential. Keep in mind Kadri didn't reach his current level until he was 26 years old AND played for a good coach. Gulutzan doesn't exactly fit the description of someone that gets the best out of all his players.

not everyone is Treleving. he gave up a 1st and 3 2nds for Hamonic and Lazar. lol

 

[CREW99AW]

Regardless if the Isles win the lottery or not with one of the 1sts they have, I wouldn’t mind trading them Adam Fox for the higher 1st. Even if we won the lottery, we can at least say that the Isles won it with theirs and we keep the other pick. Would definitely change things a little. Besides, I believe Fox was born in the state of New York.

Isles have a glut of young, offensive blueliners with Pulock,Toews and Quenneville leading the way . Not sure how interested the nyi would be in gambling a high first on Fox, who sounds like he is shying away from Calgary because he is blocked.

 

[Lunatik]

I would not give up a 1st round pick, even a late one, for Sam Bennett, but I think there are teams out there that might.

Lazar got a 2nd, no reason to think Bennett wouldn't get a late 1st