toddkaz
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Oh really? You have the link to the court case where that was decided?
The victim is also recorded saying it was consensual.
Five members from Canada’s 2018 world junior team (Hart, McLeod, Dube, Foote and Formenton) told to surrender to police, facing sexual assault charges
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The victim is also recorded saying it was consensual.
ottawa
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Ty, maybe the bottle will reach someone on the other side of the world one day.
Try to keep up. This THREAD is not allegedly about gang-rape. The thread is about that topic. Again, it's right in the thread title.
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I guess it depends on how conscious she was when she said that and potentially how much duress she was in as well.
If they're at the point of arresting people, I think it's fair to say she had a damn good case.
If the victim said it was consensual then we wouldn't be having people arrested would we? The victim wouldn't have gone to the police if it was consensual then right? You don't have a court case to decide if someone was raped, that's what medical examinations and police investigations are for. Courts are to decide innocence or guilt. I don't think you understand what we're actually talking about here.
toddkaz
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I see the title thread but just because someone on HFBoards post it doesn't make it so.
Until its proven with evidence in a court it will always be alleged.
blah blah blah.
Lots of people arrested are innocent champ.
She said she was sober.
I see the title thread but just because someone on HFBoards post it doesn't make it so.
Until its proven with evidence in a court it will always be alleged.
blah blah blah.
Lots of people arrested are innocent champ.
She said she was sober.
Ya, exactly what I thought. You don't understand anything anyone is saying.
Nope. You should get yourself updated on that case.
You’re being sarcastic, right?
It is alleged that the players asked to surrender themselves committed the crime. It's not alleged that she was assaulted.
I decided to drop out of law school and get my law degree from this thread instead.
Kane One
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There's a flip side to lots of things. If the names aren't public, it might hurt them if someone has knowledge that could exonerate them. Would you rather be in prison for a crime you didn't commit, or have your reputation potentially ruined and not in prison?
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Hank Plank
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If you have money and have lawyers, you are generally allowed to surrender under you own terms. Generally, you have a bail price agreed ahead of time and such, It's generally preferable of having your house raided at midnight and being dragged out in cuffs.
That people believe the victim after a police investigation?
If convicted, these 5 players are going to find out just how mean and nasty the Canadian justice system is.
6 months in a minimum security prison, followed by 6 months house arrest, and then a full pardon granted.
6 months in a minimum security prison, followed by 6 months house arrest, and then a full pardon granted.
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Scary that you think five people can be put on trial with no evidence. The assault happened. Who is the question. If there was no evidence of assault…… none of this would be happening
Note that I’m not saying anyone is guilty.. just that there is obviously evidence of an assault if we are at this stage.
Let's be honest, if they had public defenders, they would be under arrest in a minute. This is a negotiated surrender. If they don't get charged, then I'm wrong. But, this is how pretty much how anyone with wealth gets arrested in Canada with a high-priced lawyer if they aren't a public threat..
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Allegations are just that, allegations, until proven in a court of law. So she was most certainly allegedly raped, and those 5 allegedly did it.
If they prove the 5 did it, then the allegations of rape are no longer allegations.
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You continue to prove my point.
And another example, it's genuinely frightening.
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Didn't the original story involve 7 players? How is it possible 'only' 5 are getting charged if more than that allegedly committed a crime? Or do I have the numbers wrong?
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..so that’s great, cool reference, but an actual court of law has looked into it, this is the result.. what are you talking about? Sexual assault and rape are incredibly under-prosecuted, they wouldn’t touch this case after 4 years if it weren’t potentially criminal, but sure man, it’s all some grand conspiracy.
Like I’m honestly curious as to what legal mechanism you think made this happen. Rogue cops? A yolo judge? What’s goin on bro?
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