Five members from Canada’s 2018 world junior team (Hart, McLeod, Dube, Foote and Formenton) told to surrender to police, facing sexual assault charges

[Empoleon8771]

It's going to be real hard, however, if convictions hinder players' ability to cross borders.

This is a good point, the NHL may not even have to ban the player if the USA won’t give them a visa.

I don’t think the NHL “banned” Voynov but he’ll never play in the NHL again after being deported.

 

[Melrose Munch]

"Comply or leave" is always the best of positions.

This is not a government website. You've been told the rules. Like what is the issue here? Why make the mods job harder than it has to be?

 

[SensFactor]

It's going to be real hard, however, if convictions hinder players' ability to cross borders.

Agreed

 

[Mark Stones Spleen]

You get a pretty long leash on the contact forum. Death threats, doxxing, and whatnot are probably still not advised.

I was gonna whatnot but I guess I'll steer clear.

 

[Jee]

All hearsay and nothing has been confirmed. All ESPN is stating is who has gone on leave recently.

so have people in this very thread.

 

[SensFactor]

Its going to be real easy if you're a good player that can help the team.

I doubt it. These are serious allegations

 

[snag]

All hearsay and nothing has been confirmed. All ESPN is stating is who has gone on leave recently.

Agreed. Hearsay. But there is a fire smoldering somewhere cause the smoke is getting pretty thick...

 

[sepster]

All hearsay and nothing has been confirmed. All ESPN is stating is who has gone on leave recently.

 

[Voight]

I doubt it. These are serious allegations

They re serious yes, and if players are charged, its even more serious.

But if a team thinks the player can help them win, the player will have a job.

 

[Zirakzigil]

so have people in this very thread.

And this thread is about 5 players who have been told to report to police, not 5 players who are taking a leave of absence. We are not linking those two until if/when there has been official confirmation. If/when charges are laid, or a player makes a statement or the likes, its all speculation and not happening.

 

[Gregor Samsa]

These guys careers are done. No way a team is taking on that PR nightmare after a “suspension”. They will be persona non grata in the NHL

 

[Pancakes]

Shame on these NHL teams for continuing to play these guys while almost certainly knowing that these investigations were ongoing and that the other shoe might drop eventually.

 

[Jee]

And this thread is about 5 players who have been told to report to police, not 5 players who are taking a leave of absence. We are not linking those two until if/when there has been official confirmation. If/when charges are laid, or a player makes a statement or the likes, its all speculation and not happening.

I don't understand though, why can ESPN link the two, but not HF?

 

[snag]

Time can make things very cloudy because your memory is like the telephone game.

Your Memory is like the Telephone Game

Each time you recall an event, your brain distorts it

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For this reason, while I typically give the accusers the benefit of the doubt, I also worry for the fair delivery of justice the more time passes.

 

[HansonBro]

Took me like an hour to read this. Im outta here... been a slice

 

[ERYX]

Does them being semi famous play into it? i.e. there's pics of these guys all over the internet and if they're NHL players, fans know what they look like. So they can't hide in plain sight the way you or I could.

I think this is certainly an argument that could be used by defence counsel, if there's a need for a bail hearing ... client is less of a flight risk because he's so well known/can't hide.

 

[swiftwin]

Misdirection.

If you see wrongdoing, call it out. This is not hard.

But what if you don't see wrongdoing?

 

[FriendlyGhost92]

Think the NHL is sweating this, or moreso relieved that all the "Indefinite leave of absence" players (Not Offenders! This is NOT speculation!) are scrubs?

I feel like as much as they hate the negative PR, they're happy it wasn't a star player. Like, imagine if there were a star in the league named Fail Shakar (This is not a real person. I am NOT speculating!) that had been involved in this. They'd be shitting themselves.

 

[Zirakzigil]

I don't understand though, why can ESPN link the two, but not HF?

They havent. They were clear they are just reporting who has gone on leave recently.

 

[Jee]

They havent. They were clear they are just reporting who has gone on leave recently.

uh?

First paragraph:

Five players from Canada's 2018 world junior team have taken a leave of absence from their current clubs in recent days amid a report that five members of that team have been asked to surrender to police to face sexual assault charges.

 

[93LEAFS]

These guys careers are done. No way a team is taking on that PR nightmare after a “suspension”. They will be persona non grata in the NHL

If they could play like McDavid or score goals like Matthews, they'd get another shot. Whoever is charged, is likely going to miss significant time over this and next season even if acquitted, and their reputation is now toxic.

 

[Ninety7]

There's guys on professional sports teams that have probably done worse but never had the women speak out or they got paid to keep quiet.

I don’t doubt that. But f*** that would be so shameful. Involved in the biggest hockey scandal and your perversions are just out there now.

 

[Coffey]

WILL SOMEONE IN THE MEDIA OPEN THE DAMN DAM ALREADY!!!

 

[Strangle]

When Drouin took a leave of absence from Montreal for his mental health he was placed on ltir. This situation will be totally different so I don't know how this will handled for cap purposes.

I imagine there would be some kind of cap forgiveness, maybe in the form of contract buyouts granted or just straight up termination

If no one was bothered by the termination of Perry’s contract, this should be easy to get off the books

 

[Zirakzigil]

uh?

First paragraph:

Nothing in that statement says its confirmed they or some of them are the same.