Five members from Canada’s 2018 world junior team (Hart, McLeod, Dube, Foote and Formenton) told to surrender to police, facing sexual assault charges

[Jee]

even ESPN is making the link and naming the players now.. c'mon HF

 

[Stealth1616]

Aren’t sexual assault cases pretty hard to prove? Isn’t it going to come down to the guys saying she had a couple drinks and was willing vs the women saying she was raped and unwilling?

Most would probably be on the women’s side but unless there is some crazy evidence to prove it (maybe there is) isn’t it just a he said she said situation

 

[Voight]

How long before the following happens

1. IIHF announces that Team Canada has been stripped of hosting all junior tournaments til 2030.

2. IIHF announces Team Canada has been banned from partipicating in the IIHF World juniors 2024 tournament.

3. Hockey Canada apologizes to the public for trying to silence victims and sweep this under the rug.

If all of this happened, it still would be a light punishment for Hockey Canada!

Bolded will not happen.

 

[sepster]

you can on your own website.

"Comply or leave" is always the best of positions.

 

[SmytheKing]

Mega props, this is how you handle this.

Thanks but I wasn't some moral hero or anything. I just knew that I could get in a lot of trouble and I didn't want any of that. It was purely selfish. Regardless of motivations though, you know when you're in a bad situation.

 

[Tobias Kahun]

Or... people could just be allowed the freedom to talk.

Freedom of speech and freedom of consequences are 2 different things.

 

[super6646]

They shouldnt if they added value as a doctor or engineer. But they are entertainers/public figures, their value is highly dependent on how they make the team look and if their fans want them. Realistically, even if they are not banned, most teams wont sign them. NHL teams have no obligation to give them a second chance.

Exactly. Its fan who support the business, and there is no f***ing reason we have to stand with players after the fact.

 

[93LEAFS]

Yes and if these 5 players are found guilty & pay their debt to society, they should be allowed to play.

I wasn't trying to say MacTavish got away easy. M y point was, he did his time and was allowed to play again. Why can't these 5 guys?

They are entertainment products, and they are no longer marketable, on top of the fact they may be unable to get an American visa again considering they'd likely have to register as sex offenders.

 

[Ninety7]

Even if they were allowed to play again…

Like damn how do you just walk into a locker room after that …

 

[Jee]

Even if they were allowed to play again…

Like damn how do you just walk into a locker room after that …

a locker room full of people like them

 

[Bear of Bad News]

"Comply or leave" is always the best of positions.

If that hair shirt ends up too tight, we can get you a larger one.

 

[PeE eL DuBoiS]

Anyone know if Edmonton has 5 available contract spots available after signing Perry?

 

[SensFactor]

Doubt it. Maybe if any of them are AHL fodder, or tweeners. But if they're NHL regulars, they will play again.

Perhaps but they will have a black mark hanging over their careers. Not going to be easy to join a team after other players know what you did.

 

[sepster]

If that hair shirt ends up too tight, we can get you a larger one.

Hilarious.

 

[Bear of Bad News]

Hilarious.

Thanks! I wrote it with you in mind; glad you enjoyed it.

 

[MuckOG]

Perhaps but, if convicted, they will have a black mark hanging over their careers. Not going to be easy to join a team after other players know what you did.

FIFY

 

[TLEH]

Why does this happen every single time? We all know what it looks like, with the players, but HF wants to mitigate the risk of legal action. So we respect it, and frankly, we shut the f*** up. Its not that hard. There are other platforms that let you spew whatever you want, zero consequence. This isn't one of them.

 

[Voight]

Perhaps but they will have a black mark hanging over their careers. Not going to be easy to join a team after other players know what you did.

Its going to be real easy if you're a good player that can help the team.

 

[Mr Kot]

you can on your own website.

Yes, but you see, I happen to be THE PRESIDENT OF THE INTERNET!

 

[Melrose Munch]

Now we're blaming the parents of the kid that didn't participate in the assault?

Misdirection.

If you see wrongdoing, call it out. This is not hard.

 

[4thline]

FIFY

Not necessarily.

A criminal conviction will require proving beyond reasonable doubt that what happened was criminal.

A black mark/ black listing/ detrimental career effect only requires the public and/or management being convinced that what happened was immoral/unsavoury/objectionable enough that the PR damage and/or moral implications of positive public association outweigh the benefits they bring as hockey players.

 

[Rich Nixon]

Its going to be real easy if you're a good player that can help the team.

It's going to be real hard, however, if convictions hinder players' ability to cross borders.

 

[Zirakzigil]

even ESPN is making the link and naming the players now.. c'mon HF

All hearsay and nothing has been confirmed. All ESPN is stating is who has gone on leave recently.

 

[waitin425]

Bolded will not happen.

Exactly. Punishing Hockey Canada in such a way, punishes the IIHF. The Canadian market is their cash cow. Why would they punish themselves?

 

[McShogun99]

Even if they were allowed to play again…

Like damn how do you just walk into a locker room after that …

There's guys on professional sports teams that have probably done worse but never had the women speak out or they got paid to keep quiet.