Five members from Canada’s 2018 world junior team (Hart, McLeod, Dube, Foote and Formenton) told to surrender to police, facing sexual assault charges

[Ezekial]

Whoever the players may be, what is the justification for suspending them from their current employment in a league when the alleged infractions are not said to have happened while employed in said league?

They haven't been suspended, they've requested indefinite leaves of absences from their teams and were granted them.

 

[cvaicunas]

Yikes. Unless they've got some safeguards there, that reeks of rookie cop who thinks he knows what he's doing making an arrest without actually having enough probable cause to do so.

At least with arrest warrants in the US you're getting a prosecutor and a judge to sign off saying you have probable cause to believe a criminal offense was committed.

But again, maybe there's safeguards in the Canadian system I'm not aware of.

you do realize that in America the police are apart of the justice system. Cops often add additional, lower charges, in an effort to help the prosecution. Then the prosecution can say, we can not convict on A, but we can convict on B, and thus forcing a plea deal to garner some sort of conviction to support the original arrest. They work in concert here in America, not independently

 

[Edgelord]

Can you give proper consent if you're passing out while having group sex?

thats the grey area, who is to say the players knew her well enough to tell how drunk she was, also they are kids too and probably drinking as well. So if everyone was drunk its harder to tell how drunk she was.

 

[super6646]

More like a DICKtatorship

This is getting deleted but that's funny

 

[Captain3rdLine]

2 players on the devils were just announced as taking a leave of absence

 

[Sasha Orlov]

Whoever the players may be, what is the justification for suspending them from their current employment in a league when the alleged infractions are not said to have happened while employed in said league?

This hasn’t happened

 

[Captain3rdLine]

3 members of the 2018 WJC squad have been granted “indefinite leave of absences” from their respective teams over the past few days - that is a public and well reported fact. I won’t say anything more than that, but the timing is certainly suspicious.

5 as of 30 seconds ago

 

[AslanRH]

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[joestevens29]

That's the picture of a man who's just thrilled to be there.

That is the picture of a man who looks defeated and needs his own LOA

 

[red devil]

3 members of the 2018 WJC squad have been granted “indefinite leave of absences” from their respective teams over the past few days - that is a public and well reported fact. I won’t say anything more than that, but the timing is certainly suspicious.

5 players now with statements from their teams

 

[sepster]

They haven't been suspended, they've requested indefinite leaves of absences from their teams and were granted them.

So, do any of the alleged players have the right to not take a leave of absence and continue playing during an ongoing investigation? Can a player maintain their presumption of innocence and continue playing until proven otherwise?

 

[Zirakzigil]

More like a DICKtatorship

This is getting deleted but that's funny

 

[Goalie_Bob]

Whoever the players may be, what is the justification for suspending them from their current employment in a league when the alleged infractions are not said to have happened while employed in said league?

Ahhhhh...what?

 

[RussianGuyovich]

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The interwebs are vast and surely you will find a home somewhere out there

thank you, brave poster

 

[PULSATING]

I feel bad for the mods who have to delete posts on their cell phones lol

Imagine theyre trying to mod a post when the ads load and the page shifts like crazy so they accidentally click that ad with the hot chicks

 

[Gaylord Q Tinkledink]

That is the picture of a man who looks defeated and needs his own LOA

Lithograph of Authenticity ?

 

[AndreRoy]

If individuals were NHL players, what could Bettman do in the interim? Suspend them indefinitely until the legal process plays out?

So take away their livelihoods before a shred of evidence has been submitted, much less a guilty verdict entered?

 

[Ezekial]

So, do any of the alleged players have the right to not take a leave of absence and continue playing during an ongoing investigation? Can a player maintain their presumption of innocence and continue playing until proven otherwise?

Well, things will change after they are charged with sexual assault.




Why do you want them to be able to play while dealing with such stressful personal issues going on so badly?

 

[Mark Stones Spleen]

Right?

Name the five that are going to be charged, so the rest of the team can at least know they're finally in the clear.

I'm interested in seeing how the NHL's higher ups react to this news, once the names are released. Not a guarantee all five are current NHLers, nor were they NHLers at the time of the incident.

If the 5 have been told to surrender, then the rest of them know they're in the clear.

 

[Zirakzigil]

Imagine theyre trying to mod a post when the ads load and the page shifts like crazy so they accidentally click that ad with the hot chicks

Hey....!

Those ads pay for my salary! I wish.....

 

[joestevens29]

Imagine theyre trying to mod a post when the ads load and the page shifts like crazy so they accidentally click that ad with the hot chicks

Bellagiobob told me to download Brave app. Ever since then it's been great to view this site

 

[Three On Zero]

This is getting deleted but that's funny

@Zirakzigil knows it’s a joke, we go back and forth like this….

Poorly timed joke though, I should read the room better

 

[JimmyApples]

you all owe Drake Batherson a huuuuuuge apology!

 

[avalanche_country]

Even when the names are released (everyone knows them now) Hf will still not allow us to name them

 

[Ted Hoffman]

One thing that will be interesting to watch in all of this is how the NHLPA responds to any action the NHL takes. Clearly the NHL thinks it has some ability to do something, given how Bettman stated Mitchell Miller is ineligible to be signed after Boston signed him to a contract and "I can’t tell you that he’ll ever be eligible to come into the NHL." The NHLPA has never stepped in to defend Miller for that, though that could be because (1) he was never under contract prior to Boston signing him, and (2) his rights weren't even held by a team prior to Boston signing him, to the point the NHLPA had a potential interest in the player's future interests wrt the NHLPA.

It also raises a question of what duty the NHLPA has to defend players currently with NHL contracts (or who were under contract but have their rights held by a team) for actions that occurred before signing an NHL contract. Or, what duty the NHLPA would have to defend a player who signs an NHL contract, has never played in the NHL (or even in the AHL) but was instead assigned to major juniors, and then commits an act the NHL deems worthy of discipline.