Five members from Canada’s 2018 world junior team (Hart, McLeod, Dube, Foote and Formenton) told to surrender to police, facing sexual assault charges

[Skinnyjimmy08]

I have four guys at the top of my head. They seem to have freed up a lot of time for themselves in the last week or so. But I won't speculate too much about it.

I just mean what one of the 4 will bite the bullet next I wonder

 

[TheTotalPackage]

I just mean what one of the 4 will bite the bullet next I wonder

I know. I was just trying to be cheeky.

 

[AnInjuredJasonZucker]

Yeah, that's why I said I still consider it rape, and consider that there was a lack of consent. Alcohol and physical intimidation were factors, but even she knew there was zero chance they'd be beating her to death with golf clubs, c'mon man....

Because a traumatized woman wouldn't take stock of her surroundings and assess risks in the aftermath of the traumatic event? Because women who don't comply with their rapists have never been subjected to further violence?

There is a pattern of dismissiveness when it comes to sexual assault that includes downplaying the perception of threats and how they impact consent.

 

[andora]

Because a traumatized woman wouldn't take stock of her surroundings and assess risks in the aftermath of the traumatic event? Because women who don't comply with their rapists have never been subjected to further violence?

There is a pattern of dismissiveness when it comes to sexual assault that includes downplaying the perception of threats and how they impact consent.

Well said

 

[McJedi]

Does ESPN get to speculate? They name all five players in this article.

Ex-NHLer charged amid Canada juniors inquiry

Former NHL player Alex Formenton turned himself in to police in connection with an investigation into an alleged sexual assault by several members of the 2018 Canadian world junior team.

www.espn.com

 

[brentashton]

It served the purpose of burying the whole case 6 years ago.

This.

 

[Chaos Giraffe]

How do we know that Formenton turned himself in?

 

[brentashton]

Does ESPN get to speculate? They name all five players in this article.

Ex-NHLer charged amid Canada juniors inquiry

Former NHL player Alex Formenton turned himself in to police in connection with an investigation into an alleged sexual assault by several members of the 2018 Canadian world junior team.

www.espn.com

Lol. It’s funny isn’t it.

Some outlets read the tea leaves and realized that connecting these obvious dots wasn’t going to unleash the legal
hounds. It’s just shoes waiting to drop. Alex Formenton exhibit 1A.

Its actually comical with all the DO NOT SPECULATE warnings because everyone knows who it is, what is, it’s just tiptoeing for optics.

 

[Lazlo Hollyfeld]

Lol. It’s funny isn’t it.

Some outlets read the tea leaves and realized that connecting these obvious dots wasn’t going to unleash the legal
hounds. It’s just shoes waiting to drop. Alex Formenton exhibit 1A.

Its actually comical with all the DO NOT SPECULATE warnings because everyone knows who it is, what is, it’s just tiptoeing for optics.

The article he linked to doesn't connect the obvious dots either.

It's not tiptoeing for optics. In general before you say someone is being charged with sexual assault, is it really that outlandish of an idea to wait until it's verified they're being charged with sexual assault?

 

[brentashton]

The article he linked to doesn't connect the obvious dots either.

It's not tiptoeing for optics. In general before you say someone is being charged with sexual assault, is it really that outlandish of an idea to wait until it's verified they're being charged with sexual assault?

Ok. Let’s chat after the Feb 3 London Police Service presser and update this exchange.

 

[Koivu11]

How do we know that Formenton turned himself in?

Lawyer confirms former NHL player Alex Formenton facing charges | TSN

Pro hockey player Alex Formenton, a former member of the NHL's Ottawa Senators who currently plays in Switzerland, has been charged by police in London, Ont., his lawyer said Sunday.

www.tsn.ca

 

[Lazlo Hollyfeld]

Ok. Let’s chat after the Feb 3 London Police Service presser and update this exchange.

Why?

Assuming when the names of those being charged with sexual assault match those players that have taken leave that doesn't make it good policy to go around saying people have been charged with sexual assault before they actually have.

 

[Apex Predator]

The article he linked to doesn't connect the obvious dots either.

It's not tiptoeing for optics. In general before you say someone is being charged with sexual assault, is it really that outlandish of an idea to wait until it's verified they're being charged with sexual assault?

The article drops the 4 names of the most likely players. If we even suggest the idea of the names our post is taken down. I assume mine will be taken down soon but it’s pretty obvious who the 4 other names are. How much they are involved time will tell.

 

[Lazlo Hollyfeld]

The article drops the 4 names of the most likely players. If we even suggest the idea of the names our post is taken down. I assume mine will be taken down soon but it’s pretty obvious who the 4 other names are. How much they are involved time will tell.

Right. So why is it such a problem? Time will tell.

 

[Chips]

All I can say is, regardless if she consented.... A gang bang is never good optics.

Team peen is a time honored tradition like ________ off on crackers with your best buds you just met


You can’t tell me that’s not normal, I need it to be normal


Between this and potentially allowing gay people on the team, hockey culture is under ¡attack!

 

[brentashton]

Right. So why is it such a problem? Time will tell.

And that’s why it’s funny. You just reinforced it.

 

[Lazlo Hollyfeld]

And that’s why it’s funny. You just reinforced it.

I reinforced what exactly?

 

[VivaLasVegas]

Not a lawyer, but I don’t think that’s really an option. Well, it is, but it’s not a smart one. Canadian authorities will just apply to have them extradited, US officials have no grounds to deny the request, and they’ll be arrested all the same. It would be better for everyone involved if they just cooperate.

As a lawyer, would point out the alternative which is that the Canadian authorities could try the case against the U.S. defendants in abstentia, get a criminal judgment and then simply wait for them to come to Canada. Even if the defendants forever afterwards avoided Canada, the criminal conviction would of course end their NHL careers immediately, which is exactly why they will show up and defend.

 

[peconcan]

No good possible outcome for these guys even IF they are proven innocent no NHL team is going to give them a shot. In 2024 nobody wants to take the backlash from the fans/media. Prison or KHL

 

[GeoRox89]

As a lawyer, would point out the alternative which is that the Canadian authorities could try the case against the U.S. defendants in abstentia, get a criminal judgment and then simply wait for them to come to Canada. Even if the defendants forever afterwards avoided Canada, the criminal conviction would of course end their NHL careers immediately, which is exactly why they will show up and defend.

Is this the same kind of thing that happened with Polanski or is this different because (I think) he’d already plead guilty but fled when the sentencing agreement was going to be rejected?

 

[Edgelord]

As a lawyer, would point out the alternative which is that the Canadian authorities could try the case against the U.S. defendants in abstentia, get a criminal judgment and then simply wait for them to come to Canada. Even if the defendants forever afterwards avoided Canada, the criminal conviction would of course end their NHL careers immediately, which is exactly why they will show up and defend.

Whats your sense on the strength of the case?
with the video's this seems like a tough case to prosecute.

 

[I Hart Conor Garland]

No good possible outcome for these guys even IF they are proven innocent no NHL team is going to give them a shot. In 2024 nobody wants to take the backlash from the fans/media. Prison or KHL

If a few eggs need destroying and the omelette ends up good, I hope everything is as humanly unpleasant as possible for the rest of the eggs' pathetic lives.

 

[Bear of Bad News]

if ESPN printed the names of the 4, I am sure we can then mention the names but preface it with ESPN said.........

ESPN did not print the names of the four. Go back and re-read the article CAREFULLY, and/or read the six or seven times that I've explained this already.

 

[snag]

Team peen is a time honored tradition like ________ off on crackers with your best buds you just met


You can’t tell me that’s not normal, I need it to be normal


Between this and potentially allowing gay people on the team, hockey culture is under ¡attack!

When I heard about that one in high school in the 90s was when I was glad my parents never had the money...

 

[Edgelord]

ESPN did not print the names of the four. Go back and re-read the article CAREFULLY, and/or read the six or seven times that I've explained this already.

my bad, I thought they did mention the names.