OT: Fitness and Nutrition XII

[BenchBrawl]

As for losing weight, I have the opposite problem, when I do too much exercise, I have to eat like crazy to maintain my ideal weight, which is 180 lbs (5 ft 10). I'm not really a lifter beyond basic exercises. My metabolism just seems to BURN everything, and I'm no spring chicken anymore (late 30s). If I play too much sports and am stressed out for 3 months, I can go down to 165 lbs easily without even wanting to. I have to eat and eat and eat and god damnit this is now an expensive thing to do. Have no idea what to do with that. It doesn't look like a problem to most, but trust me it is.

Unbelievably, it was easier to maintain that perfect weight in my 20s, than it is in my 30s. Incomprehensible.

 

[BenchBrawl]

I wonder how many of you guys with chronic pain made your injuries worse by not resting/recovering. I'm no expert, but I'm still running pain-free as I approach 60. The key for me has been not pushing through injury. It drives me nuts to NOT run, but I'll take a week or two off and let whatever hurts heal.

I stopped running for three weeks in August – my longest break ever – after having my first hip flexor issue. After some rest and a lot of stretches, I started running again 9 days ago and am almost back to normal. Still haven't run more than 4K, but my pace is good (5:06/K on a treadmill, 5:20 on the road).

I "injured" my neck doing pull-ups, caught a torticolis and a nerve seemed pinched, and I forced myself to do more pull-ups in the upcoming days. Big mistake. Have been having problems for 3 years now. This was in 2019 and that nerve still pinches easily and my neck gets stiffed.

In the future, if I feel anything wrong anywhere, I relax for a few days.

 

[MarioLeMoose]

15km run yesterday at a good clip. I tried it again this morning and turned around at 4km. My legs feeling it a bit. She’s quite a bit cooler in the morning which I like, but I need a better warmup. Starting from nothing is killing my times, but I keep doing it haha. Running at night is almost easier because legs are warmed up from daily activities. This using the first couple k as my warmup is stupid Lolol. I’ll say I’m going to change it, but I probably won’t.

Exact same as me. I very often neglect a proper warmup, which as the mornings get colder becomes more and more apparent. The only time I’ll really make sure I’m good and properly warmed up is if I have a specific PR in mind for that run, otherwise I’m like you and just let the first 1-2km be my warmup.

Are you consistent with post-run stretches?

 

[BehindTheTimes]

Exact same as me. I very often neglect a proper warmup, which as the mornings get colder becomes more and more apparent. The only time I’ll really make sure I’m good and properly warmed up is if I have a specific PR in mind for that run, otherwise I’m like you and just let the first 1-2km be my warmup.

Are you consistent with post-run stretches?

I do stretch post-run every time though. Initially I wasn’t. I would run right to my door, open it, take my shoes off, put a warm bath on and away I go. Now I take the time and walk it out in my driveway a couple hundred meters, stretch it out arms, legs, trunk rotations etc. I do a pretty thorough post run stretch.

 

[Kriss E]

I "injured" my neck doing pull-ups, caught a torticolis and a nerve seemed pinched, and I forced myself to do more pull-ups in the upcoming days. Big mistake. Have been having problems for 3 years now. This was in 2019 and that nerve still pinches easily and my neck gets stiffed.

In the future, if I feel anything wrong anywhere, I relax for a few days.

You don't push a sprain. It'll worsen. That said, you could probably get some much deserved relief if you did dry needling around your traps and shoulders.
I would get those types of annoying injuries with strict pressing. I use to always push for that extra rep or two and then get hurt. Two sessions of dry needling and back to normal.
That's back when I lived in Hong Kong.

I tried dry needling here once and the guy didn't seem as qualified. Don't think it's as popular a practice here, but I would recommend it 100% of the time over a sports/deep tissue massage.

 

[BenchBrawl]

You don't push a sprain. It'll worsen. That said, you could probably get some much deserved relief if you did dry needling around your traps and shoulders.
I would get those types of annoying injuries with strict pressing. I use to always push for that extra rep or two and then get hurt. Two sessions of dry needling and back to normal.
That's back when I lived in Hong Kong.

I tried dry needling here once and the guy didn't seem as qualified. Don't think it's as popular a practice here, but I would recommend it 100% of the time over a sports/deep tissue massage.

Never heard of this but I googled it. Looks interesting. Too bad you can't recommend a practitioner in the Greater Montreal area. I would give it a shot.

Those "pinched nerve-like" pain and stiffness make me crazy. It's always the same spot on the same side too.

 

[BehindTheTimes]

You don't push a sprain. It'll worsen. That said, you could probably get some much deserved relief if you did dry needling around your traps and shoulders.
I would get those types of annoying injuries with strict pressing. I use to always push for that extra rep or two and then get hurt. Two sessions of dry needling and back to normal.
That's back when I lived in Hong Kong.

I tried dry needling here once and the guy didn't seem as qualified. Don't think it's as popular a practice here, but I would recommend it 100% of the time over a sports/deep tissue massage.

There’s a local who does it here. Dr. Dan, he’s like a magician man. The work he’s done for me is absolutely amazing.

 

[Kriss E]

Never heard of this but I googled it. Looks interesting. Too bad you can't recommend a practitioner in the Greater Montreal area. I would give it a shot.

Those "pinched nerve-like" pain and stiffness make me crazy. It's always the same spot on the same side too.

I tried once at a clinic in the west but wouldn't recommend it, disappointing as the guy also works for pro sports teams. Maybe he's just not well versed in that specific method.

Id still advise you to research and try one.
If it's been years living with that nagging pain, might as well give something a try.

There’s a local who does it here. Dr. Dan, he’s like a magician man. The work he’s done for me is absolutely amazing.

Too bad you live in buck f*** nowhere...lol no offense.

 

[snakeye]

I exercise and do sports with injuries all the time, and despite probably slowing their progress, they always end up healing just fine, and no I would never choose sitting around doing nothing to accelerate the healing process vs being active while being injured, and I feel sometimes it's even better to exercise an injured muscle than to leave it dormant and weak, which will make it more prone to reinjury later on.

Pain from an injury is not there to tell you to retreat from a sport altogether, but is something to be worked around (if possible), and serves as a new temporary limit of what the body is capable of. Monitoring it in real time, to avoid further damage, and over time, to track the healing progress, is common sense to me, and should be prioritized and trusted over any kind of restrictive generalized approach.

 

[ClasslessGuy]

80K this Saturday in La Malbaie, going for my longest distance ever. Sprain is behind me now for just over a week, still won't go full stupid on trying to finish this as fast as possible, that's what I like about ultras, more about the trip than the time.

 

[BehindTheTimes]

80K this Saturday in La Malbaie, going for my longest distance ever. Sprain is behind me now for just over a week, still won't go full stupid on trying to finish this as fast as possible, that's what I like about ultras, more about the trip than the time.

80k is batshit crazy my friend. Goodluck to you, I’d say I wish I could do the same someday, but it will never be in the cards for me.

Let us know how it goes.

 

[ClasslessGuy]

80k is batshit crazy my friend. Goodluck to you, I’d say I wish I could do the same someday, but it will never be in the cards for me.

Let us know how it goes.

To be fair at the speed I go I’m pretty sure anybody could, your quads just have to be ready to climb. When I look at the average after an event like that i’m at around 7.5 to 8 min k because of all power hiking up hill.

 

[Mrb1p]

To be fair at the speed I go I’m pretty sure anybody could, your quads just have to be ready to climb. When I look at the average after an event like that i’m at around 7.5 to 8 min k because of all power hiking up hill.

My guy I cant even run 5k on a flat surface

 

[DramaticGloveSave]

Moved and signed up at a planet fitness that was around the corner and the place doesn’t have a single barbell or rack on the premises. #shame

 

[Naslundforever]

Tip for everyone with insurance - I’ve been fighting back, neck and shoulder trouble. Anyone who can add deep tissue massages to their program - do it. I’ve been doing Physio + light floor/weight/elastic band training + deep tissue massages for two months and my results feel accelerated by 10x compared to any other “rehab” episodes in my life. Go for the massage soon as you can after your heaviest training Day (same day).

 

[MarioLeMoose]

To be fair at the speed I go I’m pretty sure anybody could, your quads just have to be ready to climb. When I look at the average after an event like that i’m at around 7.5 to 8 min k because of all power hiking up hill.

Don't sell yourself short. 80k at any speed is IMPRESSIVE!
Look forward to your update on how it went

 

[ClasslessGuy]

Don't sell yourself short. 80k at any speed is IMPRESSIVE!
Look forward to your update on how it went

I will report back !

 

[Suzuki x 14]

Fantastic news! Your post suggests you've tried before and rebounded. The key to maintaining health is turning it into a lifestyle, not a diet. After awhile your taste adjusts to better foods and junk becomes less appealing. No extremes, no starving. Having a cheat snack every now and then won't kill you; you just won't have three of them, and you won't have it every day.

Are you working with a nutritionist? Are you 'accountable' to someone? That's important. Keep going and keep posting your progress!

You are correct in saying I’ve tried before, many times. It has become my life style now, like I said, I don’t even think of having a beer or junk food anymore, even when put with buddies.

Im working with a personal trainer who is at the same time holding me accountable and helping me dietary wise. It’s basically a lot of protein and a lot of vegetables

 

[Kriss E]

You are correct in saying I’ve tried before, many times. It has become my life style now, like I said, I don’t even think of having a beer or junk food anymore, even when put with buddies.

Im working with a personal trainer who is at the same time holding me accountable and helping me dietary wise. It’s basically a lot of protein and a lot of vegetables

That's good.
I was once like that but I don't think it was healthy for me. It became obsessive, to a point where I'm counting the cashews and limiting myself to just 3 of them.
I did lose weight, and I was flying on pull ups...Doing ring dips like nobody's business...but then I crashed. 6 weeks into this diet and my strength just plummeted along with my energy levels.

But then I went the opposite direction.

I have such an addictive personality. Strict diet...or pizza every night...Train 8x/week or nothing..Get shitface drunk or not a drink...lol

 

[ClasslessGuy]

You are correct in saying I’ve tried before, many times. It has become my life style now, like I said, I don’t even think of having a beer or junk food anymore, even when put with buddies.

Im working with a personal trainer who is at the same time holding me accountable and helping me dietary wise. It’s basically a lot of protein and a lot of vegetables

I’ve read somewhere that it takes 20 days to get over the hill in terms of clean eating ?

If I wasn’t running i’d be a complete train-wreck. I check all the bx for a food addiction

 

[BehindTheTimes]

That's good.
I was once like that but I don't think it was healthy for me. It became obsessive, to a point where I'm counting the cashews and limiting myself to just 3 of them.
I did lose weight, and I was flying on pull ups...Doing ring dips like nobody's business...but then I crashed. 6 weeks into this diet and my strength just plummeted along with my energy levels.

But then I went the opposite direction.

I have such an addictive personality. Strict diet...or pizza every night...Train 8x/week or nothing..Get shitface drunk or not a drink...lol

Haha Kriss, get out of my head. What you described is me.

 

[angusyoung]

Don't sell yourself short. 80k at any speed is IMPRESSIVE!
Look forward to your update on how it went

I do 80 k on a bike and am in discomfort from trunk to skunk!

Tip for everyone with insurance - I’ve been fighting back, neck and shoulder trouble. Anyone who can add deep tissue massages to their program - do it. I’ve been doing Physio + light floor/weight/elastic band training + deep tissue massages for two months and my results feel accelerated by 10x compared to any other “rehab” episodes in my life. Go for the massage soon as you can after your heaviest training Day (same day).

Acupuncture is great for soft tissue,especially when combined with an excellent shiatsu.

 

[Suzuki x 14]

I’ve read somewhere that it takes 20 days to get over the hill in terms of clean eating ?

If I wasn’t running i’d be a complete train-wreck. I check all the bx for a food addiction

Id say thats a fair statement, took about 3 weeks

 

[BehindTheTimes]

I still find it easy to relapse into poor dieting even though I’ve been going strong for months. It’s still a work in progress for me. I love all the things that aren’t healthy, but just have to moderate them. I don’t avoid anything anymore, that’s been my ticket to success.

Anyone know the best way to lower resting heart rate? Is it slow steady state, HIIT, both etc. I’ve been packing on the miles every week and haven’t seen much of a change there lately. It’s pretty good about 48-49, but it was 46-47 earlier in my journey. I thought it would have gotten lower instead of remaining the same or slightly increasing.

My absolute favourite time of the year for running. Going to reduce my gym time a bit and really focus on the running more the next few months. The weather is too perfect to miss out on those extra miles.

 

[BehindTheTimes]

I did a warmup and stretch before my run today. I think the days of using the first couple kms as a warmup are over. It makes a huge difference.