Same. The weather in Helsinki is just gorgeous right now, so I'm enjoying it while it lasts. But come October, not sure what I'll do, because last winter was just brutal. It's good for cross country skiing, but not much else.
OT: Fitness and Nutrition XII
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Same. The weather in Helsinki is just gorgeous right now, so I'm enjoying it while it lasts. But come October, not sure what I'll do, because last winter was just brutal. It's good for cross country skiing, but not much else.
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I went for a morning 6km and and an evening 5km lol. When I get bored now I go for a run instead of to the fridge. I’m down 10lbs for sure. Maybe more, I’ve been pretty discipline with the diet too. I got a rule now that if I do have a beer I owe myself a km above what I normally run for every beer and it must be paid within 24 hours Lolol. So far it’s working like a charm.
Going back to the gym and strength training really changes the game though. Makes the runs easier too.
That's awesome! The benefit of running is definitely how many calories it burns. A couple years ago I posted details about my cut here, and I did it primarily by calorie restriction. It's quite nice to know that you have about 500 calories budget, and you can afford an ice cream or a beer now and then.
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Its on a small rink and its like 2 3 games a night, then its beers... i dont know, I guess Id rather do something different at this point
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Yeah, agreed. I’m not doing keto or restricting any particular food groups. If I want junk I just do it smartly and pay it back in km’s ran. My typically day is an 8km and a gym session. If I have a couple of beer I’ll do 10 km etc. I haven’t been taking many rest days tbh, if I need a rest day I usually cut out the gym or a run but not both. The last 3 days I’ve been staining the interior of my log home and the constant up and down off the ladder has me stiffer than any workout so I’m taking a rest day from the gym/run today to finish the job.
Nice. 8km is a good distance. I did a brisk 8km yesterday, and my lower leg muscles are killing me today. I have to take a break today and get back to it tomorrow. I was thinking about hitting the exercise bike in the evening, because my cardiovascular system is obviously ready to go, it's just my leg muscles that are too sore to do a meaningful run.
Yall need an extra?Its on a small rink and its like 2 3 games a night, then its beers... i dont know, I guess Id rather do something different at this point
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Yeah same, if I feel anything, it’s my legs. I’ve been squatting, calf raises, leg extensions etc to try and help me through the stiff/sore legs.
Sure thing..which nights you play? I'm decent I guess, not a beginner...I can play well, I'm just rusty now.
Mrb1p
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We were doing thursdays and now its sundays (I rarely go bc f*** sundays).
I know we have like 15 subs but ill ask another team if he needs.
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Yea its during the day lmao, I really liked thursdays but my sundays is sacred basically.
My 6-month progress report:
Nothing scientific here but based solely on what I see and feel...
Ended 2021 at 207lbs. As mentioned previously, I went on keto and ramped up my HIIT workouts and slashed 18lbs in January. I did intermittent fasting, 18/6 and sometimes OMAD as well. Weight training-wise, I did the "bro split" from January to April.
Other than the expected weight gain from my March cruise, I've been really committed. Again, ignoring my cruise week.... I've not eaten any breads, rice, pastas, and junk food. Sugars are basically zero. I'm referring to refined sugars and carbs though I did slash my fruit intake as well, or at least, chose fruits lower on the glycemic index table.
As of May, I was hovering around 170lbs. I dropped a few pant sizes and looking noticeable leaner. I did feel I was getting too lean though, so I switched my weight training to a push/pull/leg split and do an asynchronous schedule where I go three days on, one off and so on. I focused on upping my protein also. I dropped keto I think in April but stuck with intermittent fasting and still avoided refined and simple carbs and sugars.
Last week, I decided to increase my carb intake but still limit the simple carbs. I have also gone back to eating any fruit I normally enjoyed. I felt I was hitting a wall training-wise and stopped intermittent fasting. I began adopting a pre and post workout meal and I think it's helping. I got no direct evidence, but I've felt stronger.
Today, I'm at ~170 but I look "bigger" than I did in May. I still have a goal of 165lbs, which I think would help me lose the last bit of belly fat that is sticking with me right now. This is a December goal, so I'll be expecting more gains while losing that last bit of fat.
Nothing scientific here but based solely on what I see and feel...
Ended 2021 at 207lbs. As mentioned previously, I went on keto and ramped up my HIIT workouts and slashed 18lbs in January. I did intermittent fasting, 18/6 and sometimes OMAD as well. Weight training-wise, I did the "bro split" from January to April.
Other than the expected weight gain from my March cruise, I've been really committed. Again, ignoring my cruise week.... I've not eaten any breads, rice, pastas, and junk food. Sugars are basically zero. I'm referring to refined sugars and carbs though I did slash my fruit intake as well, or at least, chose fruits lower on the glycemic index table.
As of May, I was hovering around 170lbs. I dropped a few pant sizes and looking noticeable leaner. I did feel I was getting too lean though, so I switched my weight training to a push/pull/leg split and do an asynchronous schedule where I go three days on, one off and so on. I focused on upping my protein also. I dropped keto I think in April but stuck with intermittent fasting and still avoided refined and simple carbs and sugars.
Last week, I decided to increase my carb intake but still limit the simple carbs. I have also gone back to eating any fruit I normally enjoyed. I felt I was hitting a wall training-wise and stopped intermittent fasting. I began adopting a pre and post workout meal and I think it's helping. I got no direct evidence, but I've felt stronger.
Today, I'm at ~170 but I look "bigger" than I did in May. I still have a goal of 165lbs, which I think would help me lose the last bit of belly fat that is sticking with me right now. This is a December goal, so I'll be expecting more gains while losing that last bit of fat.
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Nice gains! (Well, loss)
If it works for you, its good, but the OMAD/IF/Keto/Nocarb isn't necessary at all, maybe your diet fatigue wouldn't be there if you had something this drastic.
Ive just exited a cut myself, 8 weeks long, dropped about 15 pounds from 225 and Im now much, much leaner (Veins popping in shoulders, arms, quads, lower abdomen.) and I achieved all this eating basically IIFYM, following what the guys at RP are doing, pretty much. (Dr Israetel).
I ate this everyday
BF burrito (3 eggs, 2 no fat cheese, one tortilla) with OJ
2 scoops or whey with a portion of fruit of choice
1 cheeseburger with 200g of lean ground beef+no fat singles// or rice and peas+chicken
Oatmeal+pumpkin seeds or some kind of cereals+protein milk (natrel) (mini wheats, yum)
french toasts+skyr yogurt (went crazy and fitted in banana flavored yogurt, game changer.)
I added in so much carb, and my energy was so much better after doing low-carb BS for so long. Carbs isn't the enemy anymore.
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My own anecdotal experience tells me there is no way I could do HIIT for any sustained amount of time while doing keto. I’ve done Keto in the past and after two weeks tops my workouts suffer tremendously. I need those carbs. Intermittent fasting will always be a part of my diet. It just works for me.
You’ve done some serious work bro and you’ve made huge progress. Keep at it. I started 4 months later than you. I was 197lb at the beginning of my journey. I want to be 165-170lbs.
Two months in and I’m 185 ish. I’ve never felt better, I love hearing about the progress people are making. Keep up the good work, it is amazing what one can do in a short period of time.
I believe the changes I have made are permanent and easy to follow. I don’t restrict any foods at all, I reduce the junk and pay for my poor decisions by running kms. I like to have a few beers a couple nights a week and that will never change, so I add those kms into my runs.
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Mrb1p
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You made good progress too, 10 ish pounds in two months is actually very good, sustainable change.
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Thanks bro, this is from simply being a bit smarter and aware of what I’m consuming, but I wouldn’t even call it a diet.
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I think being extremely fit benefits me from not taking any or surely I would have the other day at a golf tournament where it was so windy and the rain came in sideways at times!It was just a fun event with plenty of liqueur and stuff,so a good time was had regardless.
Something to consider and apply if possible.
Something to consider and apply if possible.
I think once you got into cutting certain fruits, you're entering the unhealthy behavioral side. When you're passing up watermelon cubes because of sugar content...it's too extreme. Glad to see you're back eating whatever fruits.
Damn..like mid-day? That's like the worst time of the week...lol
Initially, the motivation was to drop a lot of weight for both addressing a fatty liver issue as well as losing some bulk before my cruise in March. While I did the fasting and keto as well as the extreme uptake in cardio, main thing was actually cutting out a lot of processed foods and snacks I did used to consume in excess.
I did follow some guidelines from my doctor, but as somebody inexperienced, I would agree I probably went too much too fast.
While no expert today, I did learn a lot of lessons and slowly adapting my nutrition and workout routine so that I can work towards my goals. I'm in my 50's so the days of 10% body fat and a Thor physique aren't going to happen, nor am I aiming for that.
In short, the drastic measures I took first 90-150 days of the year are behind me now and I'm trying to do something more sustainable.
Good to hear for you as well. I only limits I personally have is limit the refined carbs and sugars which so far has been easy for me to sustain. I never had a sweet tooth to begin with, so donuts, cookies and so on were no big deal for me.
Rather than talking restrictions though, what I have greatly increased my intake on are salads. I hardly ever ate salads before. I've always eaten veggies, albeit cooked, but raw veggies were never a consistent thing in my diet. I have also increased my fish intake. I never restricted fish, but I never went out of my way to cook it. It's now something I try to get in twice a week.
As for the keto and working out, I was actually ok. I always managed to complete my cycling HIIT without much issue and even my weight training was ok. But yeah, I did have days where I just couldn't lift anything until I ate lunch (I used to train fasted).
Yeah, I kinda limited myself to some berries and maybe half of an apple/orange/.whatever any given time. I did eat a crap load of vegetables but fruit less so.
That said, all fruits are back on the menu. Recently, I've started to really eat a lot of kiwi.
I get it..but yes, extremes are bad no matter which side of it they're from.
I understand for a temporary goal but sustainability is where it's at.
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Consequence of having a kid and step kids -- I have a cold all of the time. f***.
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Interesting argument.
Not that long ago, few decades maybe, Canadians didn’t or rarely had access to tropical fruits. Bananas, mangos, pineapples, etc just don’t grow here. We don’t really have sweet fruits, sweetest Canadian fruit that comes to mind is apples, but even then the ones we have now have been cross-bred to be sweeter and crisper than what used to grow. And they only were available seasonally.
I don’t think such sweet fruits should be consumed here, especially not year round. Our fructose and insulin sensitivity just isn’t made for that.
Now, I’ll 100% agree that it’s not the main issue in most people’s way of eating, but to call it an unhealthy behaviour is pushing it a lot.
