Speculation: Firesale?

[Big Friggin Dummy]

I've been hoping this, too. I just don't think anyone is that dumb/desperate. Some speculated Seattle but that never panned out. I think him running his mouth (as usual) in the media right after he quit like an infant didn't help him much.

I could see Vancouver maybe taking a shot on him. They are getting AWFULLY itchy over there, recently.

Yeah, someone will hire his ass. Old boy's club and all that.

 

[CascadiaPenguin]

I've been hoping this, too. I just don't think anyone is that dumb/desperate. Some speculated Seattle but that never panned out. I think him running his mouth (as usual) in the media right after he quit like an infant didn't help him much.

I could see Vancouver maybe taking a shot on him. They are getting AWFULLY itchy over there, recently.

They are restless. Canucks are starting to resemble the Detroit Lions.

 

[BlindWillyMcHurt]

They are restless. Canucks are starting to resemble the Detroit Lions.

I wonder how many more games the Penguins will have to botch before Hex has to go on a Jim Benning apology tour?

"Listen guys... being a GM is HARD!"

 

[Big Friggin Dummy]

I wonder how many more games the Penguins will have to botch before Hex has to go on a Jim Benning apology tour?

"Listen guys... being a GM is HARD!"

I genuinely wonder how much of the inaction comes from ownership's direction. "Don't rock the boat too much, we're trying to sell the team and need big names around." etc

 

[Sidney the Kidney]

It’s bizarre. I can’t identify anything he does well. At least Matheson is putting up points.

He used to do a lot of things well. Always seemed to be in the right spot defensively, good outlet pass, good skating the puck out. But after his rookie year, it's like all those things disappeared on him.

One does have to wonder about coaching/development if a guy who looked like a future top pairing guy as a rookie has regressed to being closer to a #5 now. At least with Maatta, his decline is easily identified because of his thyroid cancer and already plodding skating getting worse.

 

[Gurglesons]

He used to do a lot of things well. Always seemed to be in the right spot defensively, good outlet pass, good skating the puck out. But after his rookie year, it's like all those things disappeared on him.

One does have to wonder about coaching/development if a guy who looked like a future top pairing guy as a rookie has regressed to being closer to a #5 now. At least with Maatta, his decline is easily identified because of his thyroid cancer and already plodding skating getting worse.

It was in a short season and he blew in the playoffs that year. Likely worked out because there was no footage on him. Now they just take the body when he tries to sneak around people with the puck.

 

[BlindWillyMcHurt]

One does have to wonder about coaching/development if a guy who looked like a future top pairing guy as a rookie has regressed to being closer to a #5 now. At least with Maatta, his decline is easily identified because of his thyroid cancer and already plodding skating getting worse.

I don't know that it's the case in every instance player to player but it sure does seem to be at least a little bit of a trend, huh?

 

[KIRK]

I wonder how many more games the Penguins will have to botch before Hex has to go on a Jim Benning apology tour?

"Listen guys... being a GM is HARD!"

Well, in fairness, being a GM to follow Jim Rutherford after he ****** up a franchise is.

 

[SirBrad]

Why would they sell everyone under 25?

 

[KIRK]

Why would they sell everyone under 25?

Doesn't matter. The Pens just beat the Stanley Cup finalist in their building 6-0. They shouldn't be selling anything.

 

[SirBrad]

Doesn't matter. The Pens just beat the Stanley Cup finalist in their building 6-0. They shouldn't be selling anything.

They should be buying more old players for experience!

 

[KIRK]

They should be buying more old players for experience!

And leadershipping.

 

[edog37]

Pronger was a force by his 4th or 5th year in the league. So he was still only 23 or so, but that dude was a physical freak of nature and had vision far beyond his years. Comparing almost anyone to his timeline would be unfair.

he was awful when he first came into the league. That’s my point. It’s a difficult position to learn. Marino is still doing that.

 

[edog37]

Why? Marino is paid 4.4?

What exactly does Marino do for our blue line? He’s not offensively talented enough to produce. He isn’t a stud defender. He’s not a great skater. He gets worked off the puck.

what did Letang do at that age other than run around & take unnecessary & foolish chances? He’s 24, relax.

 

[Gurglesons]

what did Letang do at that age other than run around & take unnecessary & foolish chances? He’s 24, relax.

Had 42 points in 51 games.

Comparing Letang and Marino is hilarious.

 

[edog37]

Had 42 points in 51 games.

Comparing Letang and Marino is hilarious.

And taking foolish chances & running around. Letang was a mess back then. Marino & POJ are the future anchors of our blue line. Hope that spells it out for you.

you understand defense is probably the hardest position to learn. You have to learn positioning, how to QB the power play, reads on breakouts, defensive coverages, offensive pushes, etc. this is why they invested in him.

 

[Gurglesons]

And taking foolish chances & running around. Letang was a mess back then. Marino & POJ are the future anchors of our blue line. Hope that spells it out for you.

you understand defense is probably the hardest position to learn. You have to learn positioning, how to QB the power play, reads on breakouts, defensive coverages, offensive pushes, etc. this is why they invested in him.

Letang was a stud at 24 and would’ve followed it up with a Norris in 2013 if he stayed healthy.

Marino is not.

 

[Coastal Kev]

Watching AZ tonight.........Fatty still has that SWAG.........sadly, our beantown meathead didn't like that kind of swag.......

 

[Ryder71]

Doesn't matter. The Pens just beat the Stanley Cup finalist in their building 6-0. They shouldn't be selling anything.

I strongly disagree with this take.

 

[ZorkEnchanter]

And leadershipping.

I have heard they are quite sticky!

 

[DearDiary]

And taking foolish chances & running around. Letang was a mess back then. Marino & POJ are the future anchors of our blue line. Hope that spells it out for you.

you understand defense is probably the hardest position to learn. You have to learn positioning, how to QB the power play, reads on breakouts, defensive coverages, offensive pushes, etc. this is why they invested in him.

POJ isn't even close to being NHL ready, he plays like he plugs his ears when the team talks systems. No idea what he's doing on the ice and then he gets shoved off the puck and beat like a rented mule by anyone with a pulse. Then his go to response to that is turn on his tunnel vision and skate 110% at the puck carrier who's already planned a play 2 lightyears beyond what POJ could comprehend

Just sad to see

 

[Gurglesons]

POJ isn't even close to being NHL ready, he plays like he plugs his ears when the team talks systems. No idea what he's doing on the ice and then he gets shoved off the puck and beat like a rented mule by anyone with a pulse. Then his go to response to that is turn on his tunnel vision and skate 110% at the puck carrier who's already planned a play 2 lightyears beyond what POJ could comprehend

Just sad to see

I didn’t realize he said anchors so I guess the assessment makes sense. Marino and POJ are probably the future Anchors sinking this d core.

 

[Sidney the Kidney]

And taking foolish chances & running around. Letang was a mess back then. Marino & POJ are the future anchors of our blue line. Hope that spells it out for you.

you understand defense is probably the hardest position to learn. You have to learn positioning, how to QB the power play, reads on breakouts, defensive coverages, offensive pushes, etc. this is why they invested in him.

If that's the case, then God help us.

 

[Night Shift]

I didn’t realize he said anchors so I guess the assessment makes sense. Marino and POJ are probably the future Anchors sinking this d core.

If that's the case, then God help us.

Yeah that is kinda what happens when you go pure youth movement. None of these guys have hit their ceilings imo so it's a process. Especially Marino

Though I've been thinking with this new ownership group, we might be be more active in FA than we are used to, so there probably won't be a pure youth movement like we think if we trade everyone.

 

[dogthateats]

I am kind of surprised with how productive some guys stats are this season even with the poor start.

If they played 82gp: (I know this is already impossible for some guys listed)
Guentzel 71
Letang 68
ERod 56
Kapanen 51
Marino 41
Heinen 41

Also no need to tell me anything about small sample size or how they will get injured or how they won’t finish with these totals or that we still suck.